Hi Derrick,
Thanks for forwarding it to the mailing list. In this particular case, the
credit-snatching instance has been committed by a newcomer, as you
mentioned. There can be a lot of arguments on whether the person did it
intentionally or it was just a newbie mistake, but I'm not going towards
that.
There are legal frameworks for determining the ownership of intellectual
property. But how do you give proper credit to an organizer who led, for
example, an image donation program? They must be credited for their hard
work as Wikimedia organizers. Unfortunately, similar and even more obvious
instances of credit snatching are taking place in the movement, sometimes
by some of the most experienced wikimedians with a clear understanding of
what they are doing. This is more evident in underrepresented communities,
and there is no preventive method against it.
Best,
Rafi
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 8:11 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter <
ndahiroderric@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though (
> I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did
> that was really necessary but I understand the context )
>
> I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills
> of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal
> apology to the original author and the team receiving grants .
>
> Best regards
>
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA <bam6192@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Forward as received
>>
>> FYI dear community member
>>
>> Abel Lifaefi Mbula
>> Free Software Dev
>> Free Culture Enthousiast
>>
>> Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
>> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: patience kavira <patiencekavira@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07
>> Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102
>> To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) <bam6192@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> De : patience kavira <patiencekavira@gmail.com>
>> Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55
>> Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102
>> To: fdevouard@anthere.org <fdevouard@anthere.org>,
>> donatien.kanga@gmail.com <donatien.kanga@gmail.com>,
>> emmanuelleg22@gmail.com <emmanuelleg22@gmail.com>, isla@wikiinafrica.org
>> <isla@wikiinafrica.org>
>> Cc: <wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr>, <
>> african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, <
>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>
>>
>> Dear Florence,
>>
>> It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior
>> by a user from Rwanda.
>>
>> As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in
>> partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since
>> February 14th [1].
>>
>> However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already
>> decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been
>> slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user
>> Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his
>> modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring
>> the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same
>> time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior
>> cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as
>> of Wikipedia.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99s_fight_climate_change_and_the_gender_gap_on_Wikipedia
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Patience Kavira
>> Environmental specialist
>> University of Kisangani
>>
>>
>> --
> derrick
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Thanks for forwarding it to the mailing list. In this particular case, the
credit-snatching instance has been committed by a newcomer, as you
mentioned. There can be a lot of arguments on whether the person did it
intentionally or it was just a newbie mistake, but I'm not going towards
that.
There are legal frameworks for determining the ownership of intellectual
property. But how do you give proper credit to an organizer who led, for
example, an image donation program? They must be credited for their hard
work as Wikimedia organizers. Unfortunately, similar and even more obvious
instances of credit snatching are taking place in the movement, sometimes
by some of the most experienced wikimedians with a clear understanding of
what they are doing. This is more evident in underrepresented communities,
and there is no preventive method against it.
Best,
Rafi
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 8:11 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter <
ndahiroderric@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though (
> I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did
> that was really necessary but I understand the context )
>
> I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills
> of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal
> apology to the original author and the team receiving grants .
>
> Best regards
>
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA <bam6192@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Forward as received
>>
>> FYI dear community member
>>
>> Abel Lifaefi Mbula
>> Free Software Dev
>> Free Culture Enthousiast
>>
>> Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
>> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: patience kavira <patiencekavira@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07
>> Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102
>> To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) <bam6192@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> De : patience kavira <patiencekavira@gmail.com>
>> Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55
>> Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102
>> To: fdevouard@anthere.org <fdevouard@anthere.org>,
>> donatien.kanga@gmail.com <donatien.kanga@gmail.com>,
>> emmanuelleg22@gmail.com <emmanuelleg22@gmail.com>, isla@wikiinafrica.org
>> <isla@wikiinafrica.org>
>> Cc: <wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr>, <
>> african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, <
>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>
>>
>> Dear Florence,
>>
>> It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior
>> by a user from Rwanda.
>>
>> As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in
>> partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since
>> February 14th [1].
>>
>> However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already
>> decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been
>> slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user
>> Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his
>> modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring
>> the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same
>> time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior
>> cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as
>> of Wikipedia.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99s_fight_climate_change_and_the_gender_gap_on_Wikipedia
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Patience Kavira
>> Environmental specialist
>> University of Kisangani
>>
>>
>> --
> derrick
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