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Konstantinos wrote:

Hi Konstantinos

> Since http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Domain_names and
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Squatted_Wikimedia_domains have been moved to
> internal wiki (wrong
imho), I post these he
re:
>
> * wikipedia.gr has been squatted and is for sale at sedoparking.com.
> * wikimedia.gr has been bought by myself and is a portal to wikimedia
> projects (when there is a project in greek language, it links to that one)
> * âéêéðáéäåéá.gr (wikipedia in greek) has been bought by myself and is a
> redirect to el.wikipedia.org
>
> I will do anything that is suggested by the Foundation with these domains.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Konstantinos Stampoulis
> [[User:Geraki]]
> [el.wikipedia (s&b), el.wikisource (s&b), meta, commons]

Well, it has been moved to internal, because it may be quite damaging to
write publicly which domains we own, which ones we would like to
purchase one day in the future, as well as to publicly discuss how we
intend to retrieve lost domains.

This said, I agree with you that it is a problem for those of you who
are willing to help and secure domains.

We are right now setting up a task force to be in charge of all this. I
expect announcement in the next few days. You'll have the opportunity to
directly communicate with the people in charge.

Meanwhile, I copy your comments on internal.

Thanks a lot.

Anthere

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Hello,

A small report on this too:

Wikipedia.org.ve has been registered by a squatter, is not for sale yet
but is not being used either (DNS is wrong)

Wikimedia.org.ve has been registered by me and is currently being used
to setup the Venezuelan Chapter, like I've said in previous posts if the
chapter doesn't go through, we'll happily cede/donate the domain to the
foundation.

The good thing about the Venezuelan NIC is that you have to be
physically in Venezuela to register a domain (It requires a deposit in a
Bank that's only in Venezuela).

If there are other .ve domains that we should secure, please let me know
through email.

Regards,

Damian Finol.

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Damian Finol wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A small report on this too:
>
> Wikipedia.org.ve has been registered by a squatter, is not for sale yet
> but is not being used either (DNS is wrong)
>
> Wikimedia.org.ve has been registered by me and is currently being used
> to setup the Venezuelan Chapter, like I've said in previous posts if the
> chapter doesn't go through, we'll happily cede/donate the domain to the
> foundation.
>
> The good thing about the Venezuelan NIC is that you have to be
> physically in Venezuela to register a domain (It requires a deposit in a
> Bank that's only in Venezuela).
>
> If there are other .ve domains that we should secure, please let me know
> through email.
>
> Regards,
>
> Damian Finol.

added as well :-)

Ey Damian. Nobody amongst you motivated to get involved in Wikimania
program ?

Ant


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Anthere wrote:
> Damian Finol wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> A small report on this too:
>>
>> Wikipedia.org.ve has been registered by a squatter, is not for sale yet
>> but is not being used either (DNS is wrong)
>>
>> Wikimedia.org.ve has been registered by me and is currently being used
>> to setup the Venezuelan Chapter, like I've said in previous posts if the
>> chapter doesn't go through, we'll happily cede/donate the domain to the
>> foundation.
>>
>> The good thing about the Venezuelan NIC is that you have to be
>> physically in Venezuela to register a domain (It requires a deposit in a
>> Bank that's only in Venezuela).
>>
>> If there are other .ve domains that we should secure, please let me know
>> through email.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Damian Finol.
>
> added as well :-)
>
> Ey Damian. Nobody amongst you motivated to get involved in Wikimania
> program ?
>
> Ant
>
>
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Hey Ant,

I already volunteered to work on Wikimania 2008 :), I had a chat with
Theodoranian and told him I was more than available to participate and
do whatever it is they need me to do, I'm also in the wikimania-l mail
list :). I'll see if any of the other guys in Venezuela is interested,
but is not going to be easy to raise money to go there (not to mention
getting Visas). I'm already saving up money and now I have a grand total
of 105$! out of 2400$ in Air fare :).

Anyways, if there's anything else I can do, either for the Foundation or
to Wikimania, I'm available (I defend Thesis on Nov 20, so after
that I'm pretty much done with university yay! :) ).

Regards,

Damian Finol
Maracaibo, Venezuela.
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Damian Finol wrote:
> Anthere wrote:
>
>>Damian Finol wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>A small report on this too:
>>>
>>>Wikipedia.org.ve has been registered by a squatter, is not for sale yet
>>>but is not being used either (DNS is wrong)
>>>
>>>Wikimedia.org.ve has been registered by me and is currently being used
>>>to setup the Venezuelan Chapter, like I've said in previous posts if the
>>>chapter doesn't go through, we'll happily cede/donate the domain to the
>>>foundation.
>>>
>>>The good thing about the Venezuelan NIC is that you have to be
>>>physically in Venezuela to register a domain (It requires a deposit in a
>>>Bank that's only in Venezuela).
>>>
>>>If there are other .ve domains that we should secure, please let me know
>>> through email.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Damian Finol.
>>
>>added as well :-)
>>
>>Ey Damian. Nobody amongst you motivated to get involved in Wikimania
>>program ?
>>
>>Ant
>>
>>
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>
>
> Hey Ant,
>
> I already volunteered to work on Wikimania 2008 :), I had a chat with
> Theodoranian and told him I was more than available to participate and
> do whatever it is they need me to do, I'm also in the wikimania-l mail
> list :). I'll see if any of the other guys in Venezuela is interested,
> but is not going to be easy to raise money to go there (not to mention
> getting Visas). I'm already saving up money and now I have a grand total
> of 105$! out of 2400$ in Air fare :).
>
> Anyways, if there's anything else I can do, either for the Foundation or
> to Wikimania, I'm available (I defend Thesis on Nov 20, so after
> that I'm pretty much done with university yay! :) ).
>
> Regards,
>
> Damian Finol
> Maracaibo, Venezuela.


Cool.

And what was your field of studies ?
And what do you like doing ?
(what are you really bad at doing as well)
Any specific wish ?

ant

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David Gerard wrote:
> On 24/03/07, Platonides <Platonides@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> BTW: Who will take care of the domains now Brad resigns?
>>
>
>
> Domain names? I thought that was already Brion's job.
>
>
> - d
In the past Jimbo was the "designated agent" for domain names in terms
of who was listed as the primary administrative contact.

Brion is clearly the "technical contact", and he is the one that deals
with the server side in terms of which IP addresses and other issues
about the domains and sub-domains are concerned, but in terms of being
legally responsible for paying the bills and making sure the legal
aspects of keeping and maintaining the domain names (and fighting off
challenges to those who might claim the domains through legal action),
that was clearly Brad's area of expertise.

Currently "wikipedia.org" lists Brad as both the administrative contact
as well as the technical contact. See
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=wikipedia.org&prog_id=godaddy
for some details.

Once a replacement for Brad happens, this is something that should be
dealt with. I think Brion ought to be listed as the technical contact,
(mainly for situations like this), but that is something left to the WMF
board to decide. The "real" person who owns the domain is the person
listed as the administrative contact. In theory Brad could really screw
over the foundation here if he wanted, even though I seriously doubt he
is that kind of person to take advantage of this situation, not to
mention it would ruin is reputation as an attorney.

-- Robert Horning

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&quot;Once a replacement for Brad happens...&quot;

Brad is not exactly replaceable ;-)
Let's just hope that we find a skilled lawyer who is as passionate about the WMF as Brad.
-George



On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:35:16 -0600 Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List wrote:




David Gerard wrote:
> On 24/03/07, Platonides <Platonides@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> BTW: Who will take care of the domains now Brad resigns?
>>
>
>
> Domain names? I thought that was already Brion's job.
>
>
> - d
In the past Jimbo was the &quot;designated agent&quot; for domain names in terms
of who was listed as the primary administrative contact.

Brion is clearly the &quot;technical contact&quot;, and he is the one that deals
with the server side in terms of which IP addresses and other issues
about the domains and sub-domains are concerned, but in terms of being
legally responsible for paying the bills and making sure the legal
aspects of keeping and maintaining the domain names (and fighting off
challenges to those who might claim the domains through legal action),
that was clearly Brad's area of expertise.

Currently &quot;wikipedia.org&quot; lists Brad as both the administrative contact
as well as the technical contact. See
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=wikipedia.org&prog_id=godaddy
for some details.

Once a replacement for Brad happens, this is something that should be
dealt with. I think Brion ought to be listed as the technical contact,
(mainly for situations like this), but that is something left to the WMF
board to decide. The &quot;real&quot; person who owns the domain is the person
listed as the administrative contact. In theory Brad could really screw
over the foundation here if he wanted, even though I seriously doubt he
is that kind of person to take advantage of this situation, not to
mention it would ruin is reputation as an attorney.

-- Robert Horning

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Its probably an oversight with regards to Bomis

I suspect Mr/Ms brooking is a wikipedian, if not its a simple changeover process.




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Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:15:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Domains

2009/1/17 Marcus Buck <me@marcusbuck.org>:
> On November 4 2003 Jimbo Wales announced, that 200 EUR were donated to
> register European domain names
> (<http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2003-November/012981.html>).
> Did this ever happen? I wonder, cause as far as I know, many domains are
> still not registered by people affiliated with Wikimedia (.ru, .es,
> .co.uk, .it [.it at least redirects to Wikipedia]).
>
> If the 200 EUR were spent for domains: Which ones? If they were not: we
> should make up that and spend the earmarked donation (plus additional
> money if needed) to obtain those domains (and ideally all wikipedia.xx
> domains).

wikipedia.co.uk is apparently owned by Bomis, which seems a little
strange - wasn't everything transferred over to WMF?
wikimedia.co.uk is owned by James Forrester, a Wikimedian
wikipedia.org.uk is owned by Chris Brooking, a name I don't recognise
(and the domain appears to be dead)
wikimedia.org.uk is owned by James Forrester (and may be transferred
to Wikimedia UK - I believe we're waiting for a response for James on
that one)
The .net.uk names are apparently both registered, but have no site
attached to them and no name given.

I haven't checked other European domains, or the domains for other
projects, but it seems we aren't doing too badly in the UK.

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At 12:33 -0800 17/1/09, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
>Its probably an oversight with regards to Bomis
>
>I suspect Mr/Ms brooking is a wikipedian, if not its a simple
>changeover process.
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton@gmail.com>
>To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:15:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Domains
>
>2009/1/17 Marcus Buck <me@marcusbuck.org>:
>> On November 4 2003 Jimbo Wales announced, that 200 EUR were donated to
>> register European domain names
>>
>>(<http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2003-November/012981.html>).
>> Did this ever happen? I wonder, cause as far as I know, many domains are
>> still not registered by people affiliated with Wikimedia (.ru, .es,
>> .co.uk, .it [.it at least redirects to Wikipedia]).
>>
>> If the 200 EUR were spent for domains: Which ones? If they were not: we
>> should make up that and spend the earmarked donation (plus additional
>> money if needed) to obtain those domains (and ideally all wikipedia.xx
>> domains).
>
>wikipedia.co.uk is apparently owned by Bomis, which seems a little
>strange - wasn't everything transferred over to WMF?
>wikimedia.co.uk is owned by James Forrester, a Wikimedian
>wikipedia.org.uk is owned by Chris Brooking, a name I don't recognise
>(and the domain appears to be dead)
>wikimedia.org.uk is owned by James Forrester (and may be transferred
>to Wikimedia UK - I believe we're waiting for a response for James on
>that one)
>The .net.uk names are apparently both registered, but have no site
>attached to them and no name given.
>
>I haven't checked other European domains, or the domains for other
>projects, but it seems we aren't doing too badly in the UK.
>
>_____



host wikipedia.org.uk
wikipedia.org.uk has address 81.29.67.145
wikipedia.org.uk mail is handled by 10 mail.wikipedia.org.uk.
wikipedia.org.uk mail is handled by 20 louis.webconexion.co.uk.

Dead in some sense I guess.

Gordo

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