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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Philippe
Beaudette<pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Earlier today a number of adjustments were made to votes which had
> been previously struck in the election for Wikimedia Board of
> Trustees.  We believe the votes that are still struck are validly
> struck; if there is a dispute, any user is encouraged to contact the
> Election Committee (board-elections@lists.wikimedia.org) or any member
> personally for clarification.
>
> The current list of votes can be found at https://wikimedia.spi-inc.org/index.php/Special:SecurePoll/list/17

Probably, I missed that fact, but how many Wikimedians eligible to
vote did we have for elections this time? And is there some data about
those numbers from last elections? I found just numbers of voters [1].

[1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections_history

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Hoi,
First order of business is learning the results and making sure that the
people most involved know. I can tell you that I am anxious to learn the
result. When it transpires that I have been elected, I would like a moment
to collect my thoughts.

Statistics are relevant and I am sure that what meaning can be gleaned from
them will be.
Thanks,
GerardM


2009/8/10 Milos Rancic <millosh@gmail.com>

> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Philippe
> Beaudette<pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > Earlier today a number of adjustments were made to votes which had
> > been previously struck in the election for Wikimedia Board of
> > Trustees. We believe the votes that are still struck are validly
> > struck; if there is a dispute, any user is encouraged to contact the
> > Election Committee (board-elections@lists.wikimedia.org) or any member
> > personally for clarification.
> >
> > The current list of votes can be found at
> https://wikimedia.spi-inc.org/index.php/Special:SecurePoll/list/17
>
> Probably, I missed that fact, but how many Wikimedians eligible to
> vote did we have for elections this time? And is there some data about
> those numbers from last elections? I found just numbers of voters [1].
>
> [1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections_history
>
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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Philippe
Beaudette<pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Earlier today a number of adjustments were made to votes which had
> been previously struck in the election for Wikimedia Board of
> Trustees.  We believe the votes that are still struck are validly
> struck; if there is a dispute, any user is encouraged to contact the
> Election Committee (board-elections@lists.wikimedia.org) or any member
> personally for clarification.

Is there any reason why some, but not all, super-seeded votes have
also been struck?

There are a number of cases, but picking one I know personally,

<strike>Details 15:49, 28 July 2009 Ragesoss en.wikipedia.org</strike>
Details 14:06, 9 August 2009 Ragesoss en.wikipedia.org

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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Philippe
> Beaudette<pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > Earlier today a number of adjustments were made to votes which had
> > been previously struck in the election for Wikimedia Board of
> > Trustees. We believe the votes that are still struck are validly
> > struck; if there is a dispute, any user is encouraged to contact the
> > Election Committee (board-elections@lists.wikimedia.org) or any member
> > personally for clarification.
>
> Is there any reason why some, but not all, super-seeded votes have
> also been struck?
>
> There are a number of cases, but picking one I know personally,
>
> <strike>Details 15:49, 28 July 2009 Ragesoss en.wikipedia.org
> </strike>
> Details 14:06, 9 August 2009 Ragesoss en.wikipedia.org
>


Yeah, I noticed this quite a bit also. If a voter voted more that once, it
seems like all but their last vote is greyed out usually - only sometimes
are first votes struck. Not sure if second/third/etc. votes need to be
struck just because the user voted again or not, based on that.

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Hoi,
When a person wants to change his vote he can. When he is entitled to vote
only once, it is anybodies guess which vote to retain. It seems to me best
to decide on an obvious algorithm. I think that the last expressed vote will
do just fine. It certainly fits the people who change their vote and we can
not decide anything obvious for someone who votes twice.

Some people have sock puppets, would it make sense to register them when
known ?
Thanks,
GerardM

2009/8/10 Rjd0060 <rjd0060.wiki@gmail.com>

> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Philippe
> > Beaudette<pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > > Earlier today a number of adjustments were made to votes which had
> > > been previously struck in the election for Wikimedia Board of
> > > Trustees. We believe the votes that are still struck are validly
> > > struck; if there is a dispute, any user is encouraged to contact the
> > > Election Committee (board-elections@lists.wikimedia.org) or any member
> > > personally for clarification.
> >
> > Is there any reason why some, but not all, super-seeded votes have
> > also been struck?
> >
> > There are a number of cases, but picking one I know personally,
> >
> > <strike>Details 15:49, 28 July 2009 Ragesoss en.wikipedia.org
> > </strike>
> > Details 14:06, 9 August 2009 Ragesoss en.wikipedia.org
> >
>
>
> Yeah, I noticed this quite a bit also. If a voter voted more that once, it
> seems like all but their last vote is greyed out usually - only sometimes
> are first votes struck. Not sure if second/third/etc. votes need to be
> struck just because the user voted again or not, based on that.
>
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> User:Rjd0060
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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Rjd0060<rjd0060.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Philippe
>> Beaudette<pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> > Earlier today a number of adjustments were made to votes which had
>> > been previously struck in the election for Wikimedia Board of
>> > Trustees.  We believe the votes that are still struck are validly
>> > struck; if there is a dispute, any user is encouraged to contact the
>> > Election Committee (board-elections@lists.wikimedia.org) or any member
>> > personally for clarification.
>>
>> Is there any reason why some, but not all, super-seeded votes have
>> also been struck?
>>
>> There are a number of cases, but picking one I know personally,
>>
>> <strike>Details 15:49, 28 July 2009     Ragesoss        en.wikipedia.org
>> </strike>
>> Details 14:06, 9 August 2009    Ragesoss        en.wikipedia.org
>>
>
>
> Yeah, I noticed this quite a bit also.  If a voter voted more that once, it
> seems like all but their last vote is greyed out usually - only sometimes
> are first votes struck.  Not sure if second/third/etc. votes need to be
> struck just because the user voted again or not, based on that.
>

What happened with my vote, which Phoebe noticed and brought to both
my and the election committee's attention, is that my first vote was
initially struck out without being superseded. Phoebe and I
speculated that this might have been because I accessed the voting
page again without casting a second vote (and then, yesterday,
accessed it a third time and voted a second time).

-Sage

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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Milos Rancic<millosh@gmail.com> wrote:
> And is there some data about those numbers from last elections?

A page with a large number of stats[1] was linked from the Results[2]
page last year. I think that's what you want. Well, actually, it
gives a lot of statistics... but seems to be missing one of the most
important ones: number of eligible voters.

[1]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Votes/en
[2]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Results/en

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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Casey Brown<lists@caseybrown.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Milos Rancic<millosh@gmail.com> wrote:
>> And is there some data about those numbers from last elections?
>
> A page with a large number of stats[1] was linked from the Results[2]
> page last year.  I think that's what you want.  Well, actually, it
> gives a lot of statistics... but seems to be missing one of the most
> important ones: number of eligible voters.


There exists a pre-calculated list of eligible voters used to
authorize access to the polls. Is there any reason that this couldn't
be made public as soon as it is generated?

With good eligibility data available spiffy graphs like mine from 2007
can be generated:
http://toolserver.org/~gmaxwell/election_analysis/ivote3/graphs.html

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Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>
> There exists a pre-calculated list of eligible voters used to
> authorize access to the polls. Is there any reason that this couldn't
> be made public as soon as it is generated?

That particular list file contains non-public information, i.e. an
account email address. Whether a redacted version can be made public,
*shrug*.

KTC

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