Mailing List Archive: Re: Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Re: Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

smolensk at eunet

Jul 22, 2009, 3:36 AM

Post #1 of 7 (875 views)

Pavlo Shevelo wrote:
> I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was
> planning to do that myself a bit later).
>
> I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as
> well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings
> starting from
> http://uk.wikipedia.org
> vs.
> http://uk.wikimedia.org
>
> I'm sure that this issue deserves some portion of attention & thorough
> brainstorming ;)

I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: "This is the website
of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org
(disambiguation)."

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Teofilo<teofilowiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello everybody;
>>
>> This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at :
>>
>> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_?

_______________________________________________
foundation-l mailing list
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon [ In reply to ]

andrewrturvey at googlemail

Jul 22, 2009, 12:30 PM

Post #2 of 7 (822 views)

----- "Nikola Smolenski" <smolensk@eunet.yu> wrote:
>
> I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: "This is the website
> of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org
> (disambiguation)."

I've added a hatnote in the meantime redirecting users to UK-WP and WM-UA.

--

Andrew Turvey
Secretary
Wikimedia UK
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited.
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827.
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United Kingdom.

_______________________________________________
foundation-l mailing list
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon [ In reply to ]

cary at wikimedia

Jul 22, 2009, 12:51 PM

Post #3 of 7 (820 views)

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Pavlo Shevelo wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
>> Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion
>> rather than doing this via an open mailing list.
>
> Shure, we *have to* :) do so No sense to bother everybody by
> details.
>
> Pavlo Shevelo
>
How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ?

- --
Cary Bass
Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation

Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkpnbbMACgkQyQg4JSymDYn7oQCeL+p3WSIU7rng9sqjvuBZlTOz
eX0An1p00S90+NmF0D2IECmUz2iNYHbc
=IcGA
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

_______________________________________________
foundation-l mailing list
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon [ In reply to ]

pavlo.shevelo at gmail

Jul 22, 2009, 1:01 PM

Post #4 of 7 (823 views)

> How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ?

What for?
(: To arrange mailing between two chapters? :)

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Cary Bass<cary@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Pavlo Shevelo wrote:
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>>> Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion
>>> rather than doing this via an open mailing list.
>>
>> Shure, we *have to* :) do so No sense to bother everybody by
>> details.
>>
>> Pavlo Shevelo
>>
> How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ?
>
> - --
> Cary Bass
> Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation
>
> Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
>
> iEYEARECAAYFAkpnbbMACgkQyQg4JSymDYn7oQCeL+p3WSIU7rng9sqjvuBZlTOz
> eX0An1p00S90+NmF0D2IECmUz2iNYHbc
> =IcGA
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> foundation-l mailing list
> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
>

_______________________________________________
foundation-l mailing list
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon [ In reply to ]

cary at wikimedia

Jul 22, 2009, 1:06 PM

Post #5 of 7 (826 views)

Pavlo Shevelo wrote:
>> How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ?
>
> What for?
> (: To arrange mailing between two chapters? :)
>
>

I meant for my post to be humours, but I failed to include my " :-) "!

--
Cary Bass
Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation

Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

_______________________________________________
foundation-l mailing list
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon [ In reply to ]

stvrtg at gmail

Jul 23, 2009, 7:58 PM

Post #6 of 7 (806 views)

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Nikola Smolenski<smolensk@eunet.yu> wrote:

> I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: "This is the website
> of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org
> (disambiguation)."

I actually coined the word "hatnote" - probably in violation of our
'no neologisms' policy.

By the way, I think I'm currently blocked from the list, so I'm not
thinking this will get posted anyway.

-Steven

_______________________________________________
foundation-l mailing list
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon [ In reply to ]

saintonge at telus

Jul 24, 2009, 9:57 AM

Post #7 of 7 (802 views)

stevertigo wrote:
> Nikola Smolenski wrote:
>
>> I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: "This is the website
>> of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org
>> (disambiguation)."
>>
> I actually coined the word "hatnote" - probably in violation of our
> 'no neologisms' policy.
>
>
I don't know about the "no neologisms" rule, but it did come up some
time ago in Wiktionary on the basis that you can't just invent a word
for the sake of putting it into a dictionary. There had to be evidence
of the word's prior usage. Somebody there invented the term
"protologism" for a word that did not yet fit the standard for neologisms.

A neologism is most effective when everybody that reads it knows what it
means without ever having seen it before.

Ec

_______________________________________________
foundation-l mailing list
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l