Pretty sure we are saying the same thing - what part of my comment struck
the wrong chord with you?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > I hold the same sort of pragmatic view. In the absence of freely licensed
> > content encoded in a free format we should accept free content in any
> > format. I think it would take a revolution within the Foundation staff
> and
> > the most vocal parts of the community (note that I did not say majority),
> > though.
> >
> I think this is the exact opposite of what I wished to convey.
>
> I do not hold we should accept non-free content. I don't hold
> that view. Period.
>
> But if there is content that is *only* encumbered by the
> encoding, we should embrace and liberate it from those
> bonds.
>
> That is all.
>
> > It seems like a lot less work to solve the recoding
> > problem, and anyway, there is a lot of content that has yet to be
> > produced to worry about. Sticking to the ideals no matter what will
> > help more of that free content in free formats be produced in the
> > future when there are more people around to do the
> > creating.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <
> cimonavaro@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Tim Starling wrote:
> >>
> >>> Some people in the community take the view that supporting proprietary
> >>> standards, as an option alongside free standards, weakens the ability
> >>> of the free standards to compete for mindshare and client support, and
> >>> thus that it shouldn't be done. We would have to have that discussion,
> >>> and possibly a vote on the issue, before deployment of any software
> >>> solution. But the software should come first, at the very least it
> >>> will be useful to support alternate free formats such as Dirac, Speex
> >>> and FLAC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I don't know who "Some people in the community" are,
> >> but just in case they are anything like myself, who does
> >> hold a view not entirely distant from the one you describe...
> >>
> >> The one thing I would say is that gettin unencumbered
> >> material that was only encumbered by the encoding it was
> >> being carried by to formats that are free, is a net plus, no
> >> matter if it meant we were also carrying the encumbered
> >> format version.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yours in deep amity;
> >>
> >> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
> >>
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the wrong chord with you?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > I hold the same sort of pragmatic view. In the absence of freely licensed
> > content encoded in a free format we should accept free content in any
> > format. I think it would take a revolution within the Foundation staff
> and
> > the most vocal parts of the community (note that I did not say majority),
> > though.
> >
> I think this is the exact opposite of what I wished to convey.
>
> I do not hold we should accept non-free content. I don't hold
> that view. Period.
>
> But if there is content that is *only* encumbered by the
> encoding, we should embrace and liberate it from those
> bonds.
>
> That is all.
>
> > It seems like a lot less work to solve the recoding
> > problem, and anyway, there is a lot of content that has yet to be
> > produced to worry about. Sticking to the ideals no matter what will
> > help more of that free content in free formats be produced in the
> > future when there are more people around to do the
> > creating.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <
> cimonavaro@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Tim Starling wrote:
> >>
> >>> Some people in the community take the view that supporting proprietary
> >>> standards, as an option alongside free standards, weakens the ability
> >>> of the free standards to compete for mindshare and client support, and
> >>> thus that it shouldn't be done. We would have to have that discussion,
> >>> and possibly a vote on the issue, before deployment of any software
> >>> solution. But the software should come first, at the very least it
> >>> will be useful to support alternate free formats such as Dirac, Speex
> >>> and FLAC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I don't know who "Some people in the community" are,
> >> but just in case they are anything like myself, who does
> >> hold a view not entirely distant from the one you describe...
> >>
> >> The one thing I would say is that gettin unencumbered
> >> material that was only encumbered by the encoding it was
> >> being carried by to formats that are free, is a net plus, no
> >> matter if it meant we were also carrying the encumbered
> >> format version.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yours in deep amity;
> >>
> >> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
> >>
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