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foundation-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:27:23 +0800
> From: "shi zhao" <shizhao@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Chinese wikinews in China Blocked
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> Today Chinese wikinews in China Blocked. GFW keyword is "zh.wikinews.org".
> other wikinews can acess.
>
Is there any way to confirm this? Is there anyone else who has this
issue? I would like to do an article for the English Wikinews if this is
indeed true.

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Plese install China Channel Firefox Add-on, test GFW of China :)
http://chinachannel.hk/


2009/1/10 Jason Safoutin <jason.safoutin@wikinewsie.org>

> foundation-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:27:23 +0800
> > From: "shi zhao" <shizhao@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Foundation-l] Chinese wikinews in China Blocked
> > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
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> > Today Chinese wikinews in China Blocked. GFW keyword is "zh.wikinews.org
> ".
> > other wikinews can acess.
> >
> Is there any way to confirm this? Is there anyone else who has this
> issue? I would like to do an article for the English Wikinews if this is
> indeed true.
>
> --
> Jason Safoutin
> Wikinews accredited reporter and administrator
> jason.safoutin@wikinewsie.org
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I can confirm that http://zh.wikinews.org is blocked in Beijing and several
other cities in China.

Ian
[[User:Poeloq]]


2009/1/10 Jason Safoutin <jason.safoutin@wikinewsie.org>
>
> > foundation-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> > > Message: 10
> > > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:27:23 +0800
> > > From: "shi zhao" <shizhao@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Foundation-l] Chinese wikinews in China Blocked
> > > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> > > <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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> > > <762c04810901090127t1517f3fcm74bf129a77f0d03a@mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >
> > > Today Chinese wikinews in China Blocked. GFW keyword is "
> zh.wikinews.org
> > ".
> > > other wikinews can acess.
> > >
> > Is there any way to confirm this? Is there anyone else who has this
> > issue? I would like to do an article for the English Wikinews if this is
> > indeed true.
> >
> > --
> > Jason Safoutin
> > Wikinews accredited reporter and administrator
> > jason.safoutin@wikinewsie.org
> >
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The proxy servers of the China Channel Firefox Add-on seems to be out of
order.

An alternative way of testing can be found here:Website Test behind the
Great Firewall of
China<http://www.websitepulse.com/help/testtools.china-test.html>

Here are some results from the above web page.

Tested From: Shanghai, China
Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
Status: Empty reply from server
Response Time: 0.414 sec

Tested From: Beijing, China
Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
Status: Empty reply from server
Response Time: 3.595 sec

Tested From: Hong Kong, China
Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
Status: OK
Response Time: 2.696 sec

Tested From: Seattle, WA
Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
Status: OK
Response Time: 1.678 sec

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2009/1/9 shi zhao <shizhao@gmail.com>:
> Today Chinese wikinews in China Blocked. GFW keyword is "zh.wikinews.org".
> other wikinews can acess.

Do we have a page somewhere listing exactly which sites of ours are
blocked in China?

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On 1/10/09, Chen Minqi <cnchenminqi@gmail.com> wrote:
> <http://www.websitepulse.com/help/testtools.china-test.html>
>
> Here are some results from the above web page.
>
> Tested From: Shanghai, China
> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
> Status: Empty reply from server
> Response Time: 0.414 sec
>
> Tested From: Beijing, China
> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
> Status: Empty reply from server
> Response Time: 3.595 sec
>
> Tested From: Hong Kong, China
> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
> Status: OK
> Response Time: 2.696 sec
>
> Tested From: Seattle, WA
> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
> Status: OK
> Response Time: 1.678 sec

The hell you say? Results from 2009-01-12 at 05:20 UTC:

Tested From: Shanghai, China
URL Tested: http://en.wikinews.org
Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
Status: OK
Response Time: 17.829 sec

Tested From: Beijing, China
URL Tested: http://en.wikinews.org
Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
Status: OK
Response Time: 13.774 sec

Tested From: Hong Kong, China
URL Tested: http://en.wikinews.org
Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
Status: OK
Response Time: 2.513 sec

Tested From: Seattle, WA
URL Tested: http://en.wikinews.org
Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
Status: OK
Response Time: 1.687 sec

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what i meant to say is. at least the english site is still accessible,
which is odd (i mis-read the subject line) because the latter site has
quite a bit more anti-PRC content. weird...

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We're talking about the Chinese Wikinews...

Mark

2009/1/11 Charlotte Webb <charlottethewebb@gmail.com>:
> On 1/10/09, Chen Minqi <cnchenminqi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <http://www.websitepulse.com/help/testtools.china-test.html>
>>
>> Here are some results from the above web page.
>>
>> Tested From: Shanghai, China
>> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
>> Status: Empty reply from server
>> Response Time: 0.414 sec
>>
>> Tested From: Beijing, China
>> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
>> Status: Empty reply from server
>> Response Time: 3.595 sec
>>
>> Tested From: Hong Kong, China
>> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
>> Status: OK
>> Response Time: 2.696 sec
>>
>> Tested From: Seattle, WA
>> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
>> Status: OK
>> Response Time: 1.678 sec
>
> The hell you say? Results from 2009-01-12 at 05:20 UTC:
>
> Tested From: Shanghai, China
> URL Tested: http://en.wikinews.org
> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
> Status: OK
> Response Time: 17.829 sec
>
> Tested From: Beijing, China
> URL Tested: http://en.wikinews.org
> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
> Status: OK
> Response Time: 13.774 sec
>
> Tested From: Hong Kong, China
> URL Tested: http://en.wikinews.org
> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
> Status: OK
> Response Time: 2.513 sec
>
> Tested From: Seattle, WA
> URL Tested: http://en.wikinews.org
> Resolved As: 208.80.152.2
> Status: OK
> Response Time: 1.687 sec
>
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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Charlotte Webb
<charlottethewebb@gmail.com>wrote:
>what i meant to say is. at least the english site is still accessible,
>which is odd (i mis-read the subject line) because the latter site has
>quite a bit more anti-PRC content. weird...

Indeed there is a bit more stuff there in en.wikinews, but blocking the
Chinese site only is the usual way they do.

As we know, all wikimedia sites used to be completely blocked in mainland
China since 2005 (temporary blocking started in 2004). When they started to
unblock the wikimedia sites in 2006, they unblocked all the non-Chinese
sites first and later some Chinese projects, such as Chinese Wikitionary.
The Chinese Wikipedia is only unblocked in 2008 due to the international
pressure before the Olympics, yet the content of the site is still censored
and some sensitive keywords will trigger a temporary IP block lasting
approx. 1~2 minutes.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Charlotte Webb
<charlottethewebb@gmail.com>wrote:

> what i meant to say is. at least the english site is still accessible,
> which is odd (i mis-read the subject line) because the latter site has
> quite a bit more anti-PRC content. weird...
>
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> As we know, all wikimedia sites used to be completely blocked in mainland
> China since 2005 (temporary blocking started in 2004). When they started to
> unblock the wikimedia sites in 2006, they unblocked all the non-Chinese
> sites first and later some Chinese projects, such as Chinese Wikitionary.
> The Chinese Wikipedia is only unblocked in 2008 due to the international
> pressure before the Olympics, yet the content of the site is still censored
> and some sensitive keywords will trigger a temporary IP block lasting
> approx. 1~2 minutes.

Nah, reviewing my one edit to en.wikinews would probably earn you a
lifetime ban if you are in the PRC. Let me know if it loads. :P
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CharlotteWebb

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