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Multi-users
Hi,

I have used VNC on a few of my Win XP-Pro systems for a couple of years
or so. It seems to me that when I first got it, it was possible for one to
login to a system using VNC without affecting the primary user of the system
- effectively making it a multi-user system. I want to do some work on our
main POS system without taking it away from the sales people who are very
busy this time of year.

Is that still possible? I haven't tried it in a long time.



--Brian M. Godfrey

brian@wildbirdshop.com



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Re: Multi-users [ In reply to ]
Multiple people can view a single PC but VNC has never provided multiple independent sessions in the 7 or so years I've been using it.

----------------------

Bob Hartung
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
_____

From: Brian M. Godfrey [mailto:brian@wildbirdshop.com]
To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:05:37 -0500
Subject: Multi-users

Hi,

I have used VNC on a few of my Win XP-Pro systems for a couple of years
or so. It seems to me that when I first got it, it was possible for one to
login to a system using VNC without affecting the primary user of the system
- effectively making it a multi-user system. I want to do some work on our
main POS system without taking it away from the sales people who are very
busy this time of year.

Is that still possible? I haven't tried it in a long time.



--Brian M. Godfrey

brian@wildbirdshop.com



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Re[2]: Multi-users [ In reply to ]
What you are thinking of is most likely Remote Desktop Connection by Microsoft
itself that is provided with every Windows system.


Sincerely,
Artem
http://beerpla.net

Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 11:13:32 AM, you wrote:

> Multiple people can view a single PC but VNC has never provided multiple
> independent sessions in the 7 or so years I've been using it.

> ----------------------

> Bob Hartung
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
> _____

> From: Brian M. Godfrey [mailto:brian@wildbirdshop.com]
> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:05:37 -0500
> Subject: Multi-users

> Hi,
>
> I have used VNC on a few of my Win XP-Pro systems for a couple of years
> or so. It seems to me that when I first got it, it was possible for one to
> login to a system using VNC without affecting the primary user of the system
> - effectively making it a multi-user system. I want to do some work on our
> main POS system without taking it away from the sales people who are very
> busy this time of year.
>
> Is that still possible? I haven't tried it in a long time.
>
>
>
> --Brian M. Godfrey
>
> brian@wildbirdshop.com
>
>
>
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Re: Multi-users [ In reply to ]
Bob,

VNC does not provide even the sessions, just the Virtual Network Computing
layer. If the host system can, you know, host multiple sessions of VNC
Servers, THEN the VNC protocol for sure can provide multiple client
sessions, even from the same ~client PC~ just using different display
numbers...

This is the way it works under Linux hosts, and it can work this way also
using Windows Terminal Server I believe, but in this case you would be
better "served" using the microsoft RDP clients.



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Bob Hartung" <bhartung@wiscoind.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:13 PM
To: <brian@wildbirdshop.com>; <vnc-list@realvnc.com>
Subject: Re: Multi-users

> Multiple people can view a single PC but VNC has never provided multiple
> independent sessions in the 7 or so years I've been using it.
>
> ----------------------
>
> Bob Hartung
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
> _____
>
> From: Brian M. Godfrey [mailto:brian@wildbirdshop.com]
> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:05:37 -0500
> Subject: Multi-users
>
> Hi,
>
> I have used VNC on a few of my Win XP-Pro systems for a couple of
> years
> or so. It seems to me that when I first got it, it was possible for one
> to
> login to a system using VNC without affecting the primary user of the
> system
> - effectively making it a multi-user system. I want to do some work on
> our
> main POS system without taking it away from the sales people who are very
> busy this time of year.
>
> Is that still possible? I haven't tried it in a long time.
>
>
>
> --Brian M. Godfrey
>
> brian@wildbirdshop.com
>
>
>
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Re: Multi-users [ In reply to ]
For Brian's situation, VNC won't give him what he needs. I don't believe RDP would either. I'm guessing the PC he's using to run a POS app is unlikely to be a terminal server or he wouldn't be looking for an alternate way to have multiple users.

Brian, you said you plan to setup a stand-alone micro PC in your shipping area and want to hook up to you POS PC. I'd check with your POS software provider to see if they support multiple PCs hooking up to the existing POS PC. It might be as simple as installing the app on your micro PC and configuring a share from your main POS PC.

Another thing to be careful about is even if you were able to get multiple sessions running on a single PC, if your POS sofware doesn't support multiple users you might end up having problems and corrupting your POS transactions or database.



----------------------

Bob Hartung
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
_____

From: Toninho H 1 [mailto:feitosa_neto_a_r@hotmail.com]
To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:59:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Multi-users

Bob,

VNC does not provide even the sessions, just the Virtual Network Computing
layer. If the host system can, you know, host multiple sessions of VNC
Servers, THEN the VNC protocol for sure can provide multiple client
sessions, even from the same ~client PC~ just using different display
numbers...

This is the way it works under Linux hosts, and it can work this way also
using Windows Terminal Server I believe, but in this case you would be
better "served" using the microsoft RDP clients.



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Bob Hartung" <bhartung@wiscoind.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:13 PM
To: <brian@wildbirdshop.com>; <vnc-list@realvnc.com>
Subject: Re: Multi-users

> Multiple people can view a single PC but VNC has never provided multiple
> independent sessions in the 7 or so years I've been using it.
>
> ----------------------
>
> Bob Hartung
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
> _____
>
> From: Brian M. Godfrey [mailto:brian@wildbirdshop.com]
> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:05:37 -0500
> Subject: Multi-users
>
> Hi,
>
> I have used VNC on a few of my Win XP-Pro systems for a couple of
> years
> or so. It seems to me that when I first got it, it was possible for one
> to
> login to a system using VNC without affecting the primary user of the
> system
> - effectively making it a multi-user system. I want to do some work on
> our
> main POS system without taking it away from the sales people who are very
> busy this time of year.
>
> Is that still possible? I haven't tried it in a long time.
>
>
>
> --Brian M. Godfrey
>
> brian@wildbirdshop.com
>
>
>
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RE: Multi-users [ In reply to ]
The micro PC in the shipping area will be one of those tiny ones running
Linux. It cannot run my POS software which is windows-only. I'm just using
it as a "remote terminal" for one of the POS systems. The possibility that
I could use that system locally and remotely at the same time is an added
attraction, though not the main objective.
It is true that I have no idea how the POS application would feel about
having multiple instances running at the same time on the system. Probably
not good. But I don't really need two instances running at once. It would
just be nice for someone in the front to be able to use the system for other
things while the person in the back is receiving. We also have Outlook open
on it all day, Excel, and the UPS shipping software.
I have been looking around and found some interesting things.
Here is information on converting the Windows workstation OSs (XP-Pro and
Vista Business) to true multi-user systems using RDP:
http://remotedesktoprdp.com/Multiple-Remote-Desktop-Sessions.aspx. I'm not
sure if this would allow VNC to create a second user session or not. I
suppose there is an RDP client for Linux out there somewhere.
Here is a shareware product that allows you to create separate sessions
within windows on your Windows desktop:
http://www.wugnet.com/shareware/spow.asp?ID=587. It's kind of old, the
company appears to have disappeared, but it appears to create separate user
sessions without using RDP/terminal services. Would VNC just take over one
of these sessions/desktops and leave the others available on the main
monitor?

--Brian M. Godfrey
brian@wildbirdshop.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: vnc-list-bounces@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-
> bounces@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hartung
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:30 PM
> To: Toninho H 1; vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Subject: Re: Multi-users
>
> For Brian's situation, VNC won't give him what he needs. I don't
> believe RDP would either. I'm guessing the PC he's using to run a POS
> app is unlikely to be a terminal server or he wouldn't be looking for
> an alternate way to have multiple users.
>
> Brian, you said you plan to setup a stand-alone micro PC in your
> shipping area and want to hook up to you POS PC. I'd check with your
> POS software provider to see if they support multiple PCs hooking up to
> the existing POS PC. It might be as simple as installing the app on
> your micro PC and configuring a share from your main POS PC.
>
> Another thing to be careful about is even if you were able to get
> multiple sessions running on a single PC, if your POS sofware doesn't
> support multiple users you might end up having problems and corrupting
> your POS transactions or database.
>
>
>
> ----------------------
>
> Bob Hartung
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
> _____
>
> From: Toninho H 1 [mailto:feitosa_neto_a_r@hotmail.com]
> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:59:47 -0500
> Subject: Re: Multi-users
>
> Bob,
>
> VNC does not provide even the sessions, just the Virtual Network
> Computing
> layer. If the host system can, you know, host multiple sessions of
> VNC
> Servers, THEN the VNC protocol for sure can provide multiple client
> sessions, even from the same ~client PC~ just using different display
> numbers...
>
> This is the way it works under Linux hosts, and it can work this way
> also
> using Windows Terminal Server I believe, but in this case you would
> be
> better "served" using the microsoft RDP clients.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bob Hartung" <bhartung@wiscoind.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:13 PM
> To: <brian@wildbirdshop.com>; <vnc-list@realvnc.com>
> Subject: Re: Multi-users
>
> > Multiple people can view a single PC but VNC has never provided
> multiple
> > independent sessions in the 7 or so years I've been using it.
> >
> > ----------------------
> >
> > Bob Hartung
> > Wisco Industries, Inc.
> > 736 Janesville St.
> > Oregon, WI 53575
> > Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> > Fax: (608) 835-7399
> > e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
> > _____
> >
> > From: Brian M. Godfrey [mailto:brian@wildbirdshop.com]
> > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> > Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:05:37 -0500
> > Subject: Multi-users
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have used VNC on a few of my Win XP-Pro systems for a couple
> of
> > years
> > or so. It seems to me that when I first got it, it was possible
> for one
> > to
> > login to a system using VNC without affecting the primary user of
> the
> > system
> > - effectively making it a multi-user system. I want to do some
> work on
> > our
> > main POS system without taking it away from the sales people who
> are very
> > busy this time of year.
> >
> > Is that still possible? I haven't tried it in a long time.
> >
> >
> >
> > --Brian M. Godfrey
> >
> > brian@wildbirdshop.com
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Multi-users [ In reply to ]
Not in Windows, only in Linux.


Bye,
Claudio.



> Multiple people can view a single PC but VNC has never provided multiple independent sessions in the 7 or so years I've been using it.
>
> ----------------------
>
> Bob Hartung
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
> _____
>
> From: Brian M. Godfrey [mailto:brian@wildbirdshop.com]
> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:05:37 -0500
> Subject: Multi-users
>
> Hi,
>
> I have used VNC on a few of my Win XP-Pro systems for a couple of years
> or so. It seems to me that when I first got it, it was possible for one to
> login to a system using VNC without affecting the primary user of the system
> - effectively making it a multi-user system. I want to do some work on our
> main POS system without taking it away from the sales people who are very
> busy this time of year.
>
> Is that still possible? I haven't tried it in a long time.
>
>
>
> --Brian M. Godfrey
>
> brian@wildbirdshop.com
>
>
>
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Re: Multi-users [ In reply to ]
Same in linux. In linux though you can run multiple vnc servers and get
as many users as memory permits.

Regards,
Alex


Claudio Coletta wrote:
> Not in Windows, only in Linux.
>
>
> Bye,
> Claudio.
>
>
>
>
>> Multiple people can view a single PC but VNC has never provided multiple independent sessions in the 7 or so years I've been using it.
>>
>> ----------------------
>>
>> Bob Hartung
>> Wisco Industries, Inc.
>> 736 Janesville St.
>> Oregon, WI 53575
>> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
>> Fax: (608) 835-7399
>> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
>> _____
>>
>> From: Brian M. Godfrey [mailto:brian@wildbirdshop.com]
>> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
>> Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:05:37 -0500
>> Subject: Multi-users
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have used VNC on a few of my Win XP-Pro systems for a couple of years
>> or so. It seems to me that when I first got it, it was possible for one to
>> login to a system using VNC without affecting the primary user of the system
>> - effectively making it a multi-user system. I want to do some work on our
>> main POS system without taking it away from the sales people who are very
>> busy this time of year.
>>
>> Is that still possible? I haven't tried it in a long time.
>>
>>
>>
>> --Brian M. Godfrey
>>
>> brian@wildbirdshop.com
>>
>>
>>
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