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Oct 22, 2009, 2:10 AM

Post #27 of 37 (7005 views)

woohoo and that part worked fine tested from here just before your mail arrived

_spf.easynetworks.com.au text = "v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all"

now to apply it to the first domain

so next is
host {nothing} blank nada
domain your own again
type txt
Value {you'll never get anyone to say target}
v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au

then repeat for each domain you wish to setup spf for
name type and value identical just domain changing for each

then for extra brownie points send me an email direct so we can see if all is well

and now if you want were done
or if you want to be a good netizen we can show you how to setup a null spf
on each domain not used for email,
and host only spf for those used in HELO /EHLO greetings

and we could also show you how to setup a sender-id record to stop your spf record being mis-used as one

At 09:38 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:

>Ok thanks Alan
>
>
>"a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}"
>
>Aahaha, really? I use what the boss has given me to work with, no choice..unless I push fo it. Ive used DDNS also, what do you suggest?

just edit the dns by hand its only simple text files
for a one man show there is never any need for a gui
{it can be useful if you have Lusers needing to edit their own zones, but no real admins use web gui's as it means you cant do all the extra records that dns is capable of, like multiple ip's for a name and SRV records etc}

what is the actual server beneath the GUI, all i know is i can only get responses from one of your 3 servers the others time out from here

>Ok Ive done as follows:
>
>1) host: _spf
>
>
>2) domain: easynetworks
>
>3) type: TXT
>
>4) target: v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>
>
>Danny
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:04 PM
>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>
>a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}
>
>yes target is the mis-label they are using to describe "value"
>
>so as described umpteen times the "Value" of the txt record should be
>
>v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>
>as typed we will check so if you make a mistake it will cause you no harm we will just keep editing till it works
>
>
>At 08:16 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>url to screen shot:
>>
>>http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7783/ods.png
>>
>>Danny
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 5:01 PM
>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>
>>At 07:39 22/10/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>Does this list not accept html? Ive sent through some screen shots & I didn?t get the email back, so I gather not?
>>
>>i guess not try posting them online and send us a url
>>
>>
>>>Danny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rob MacGregor [mailto:rob.macgregor@gmail.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 4:28 PM
>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>Subject: Re: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>
>>>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:14, Danny Vincent <danny@easynetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Ok, I have access to my domains records. Ive got A, MX, Cname & ptr records & realise you want me to add a .txt record.
>>>>
>>>> I just don?t know how to set out the txt record.
>>>
>>>What type of DNS server are you using, what interface are you using to it?
>>>
>>>--
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>>>
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>>> doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche
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RE: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 2009, 2:22 AM

Post #28 of 37 (7049 views)

Hmmm, I have added the record, but on spf checks after perhaps 30 mins or so, there is still no spf record.

Not sure if that means dns server around the place haven’t updated, but I'll take your word on it.

Ive added the new record as you suggested below.

Danny

-----Original Message-----
From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:11 PM
To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2

woohoo and that part worked fine tested from here just before your mail arrived

_spf.easynetworks.com.au text = "v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all"

now to apply it to the first domain

so next is
host {nothing} blank nada
domain your own again
type txt
Value {you'll never get anyone to say target}
v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au

then repeat for each domain you wish to setup spf for
name type and value identical just domain changing for each

then for extra brownie points send me an email direct so we can see if all is well

and now if you want were done
or if you want to be a good netizen we can show you how to setup a null spf
on each domain not used for email,
and host only spf for those used in HELO /EHLO greetings

and we could also show you how to setup a sender-id record to stop your spf record being mis-used as one

At 09:38 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:

>Ok thanks Alan
>
>
>"a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}"
>
>Aahaha, really? I use what the boss has given me to work with, no choice..unless I push fo it. Ive used DDNS also, what do you suggest?

just edit the dns by hand its only simple text files
for a one man show there is never any need for a gui
{it can be useful if you have Lusers needing to edit their own zones, but no real admins use web gui's as it means you cant do all the extra records that dns is capable of, like multiple ip's for a name and SRV records etc}

what is the actual server beneath the GUI, all i know is i can only get responses from one of your 3 servers the others time out from here

>Ok Ive done as follows:
>
>1) host: _spf
>
>
>2) domain: easynetworks
>
>3) type: TXT
>
>4) target: v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>
>
>Danny
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:04 PM
>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>
>a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}
>
>yes target is the mis-label they are using to describe "value"
>
>so as described umpteen times the "Value" of the txt record should be
>
>v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>
>as typed we will check so if you make a mistake it will cause you no harm we will just keep editing till it works
>
>
>At 08:16 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>url to screen shot:
>>
>>http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7783/ods.png
>>
>>Danny
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 5:01 PM
>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>
>>At 07:39 22/10/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>Does this list not accept html? Ive sent through some screen shots & I didn?t get the email back, so I gather not?
>>
>>i guess not try posting them online and send us a url
>>
>>
>>>Danny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rob MacGregor [mailto:rob.macgregor@gmail.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 4:28 PM
>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>Subject: Re: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>
>>>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:14, Danny Vincent <danny@easynetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Ok, I have access to my domains records. Ive got A, MX, Cname & ptr records & realise you want me to add a .txt record.
>>>>
>>>> I just don?t know how to set out the txt record.
>>>
>>>What type of DNS server are you using, what interface are you using to it?
>>>
>>>--
>>> Please keep list traffic on the list.
>>>
>>>Rob MacGregor
>>> Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
>>> doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche
>>>
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RE: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 2009, 2:25 AM

Post #29 of 37 (7011 views)

Nice! On running the spf check again I get

Yes, easynetworks.com.au has an SPF version 1 record.

Hostname: easynetworks.com.au
IP: 203.143.228.14
Mailserver(s): mail.easynetworks.com.au
SPF Record:
v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au

So I repeat the 2 processes we did with the _spf record & the "nothng" record for all other domains I host?

Danny

-----Original Message-----
From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:11 PM
To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2

woohoo and that part worked fine tested from here just before your mail arrived

_spf.easynetworks.com.au text = "v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all"

now to apply it to the first domain

so next is
host {nothing} blank nada
domain your own again
type txt
Value {you'll never get anyone to say target}
v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au

then repeat for each domain you wish to setup spf for
name type and value identical just domain changing for each

then for extra brownie points send me an email direct so we can see if all is well

and now if you want were done
or if you want to be a good netizen we can show you how to setup a null spf
on each domain not used for email,
and host only spf for those used in HELO /EHLO greetings

and we could also show you how to setup a sender-id record to stop your spf record being mis-used as one

At 09:38 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:

>Ok thanks Alan
>
>
>"a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}"
>
>Aahaha, really? I use what the boss has given me to work with, no choice..unless I push fo it. Ive used DDNS also, what do you suggest?

just edit the dns by hand its only simple text files
for a one man show there is never any need for a gui
{it can be useful if you have Lusers needing to edit their own zones, but no real admins use web gui's as it means you cant do all the extra records that dns is capable of, like multiple ip's for a name and SRV records etc}

what is the actual server beneath the GUI, all i know is i can only get responses from one of your 3 servers the others time out from here

>Ok Ive done as follows:
>
>1) host: _spf
>
>
>2) domain: easynetworks
>
>3) type: TXT
>
>4) target: v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>
>
>Danny
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:04 PM
>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>
>a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}
>
>yes target is the mis-label they are using to describe "value"
>
>so as described umpteen times the "Value" of the txt record should be
>
>v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>
>as typed we will check so if you make a mistake it will cause you no harm we will just keep editing till it works
>
>
>At 08:16 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>url to screen shot:
>>
>>http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7783/ods.png
>>
>>Danny
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 5:01 PM
>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>
>>At 07:39 22/10/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>Does this list not accept html? Ive sent through some screen shots & I didn?t get the email back, so I gather not?
>>
>>i guess not try posting them online and send us a url
>>
>>
>>>Danny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rob MacGregor [mailto:rob.macgregor@gmail.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 4:28 PM
>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>Subject: Re: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>
>>>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:14, Danny Vincent <danny@easynetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Ok, I have access to my domains records. Ive got A, MX, Cname & ptr records & realise you want me to add a .txt record.
>>>>
>>>> I just don?t know how to set out the txt record.
>>>
>>>What type of DNS server are you using, what interface are you using to it?
>>>
>>>--
>>> Please keep list traffic on the list.
>>>
>>>Rob MacGregor
>>> Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
>>> doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche
>>>
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RE: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 2009, 2:32 AM

Post #30 of 37 (7001 views)

Although, when I run a test on dnsstuff it says

Name : mail.easynetworks.com.au
Pref : 10
Addresses: 203.143.228.24
Port :25
SPF : permerror

??

-----Original Message-----
From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:11 PM
To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2

woohoo and that part worked fine tested from here just before your mail arrived

_spf.easynetworks.com.au text = "v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all"

now to apply it to the first domain

so next is
host {nothing} blank nada
domain your own again
type txt
Value {you'll never get anyone to say target}
v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au

then repeat for each domain you wish to setup spf for
name type and value identical just domain changing for each

then for extra brownie points send me an email direct so we can see if all is well

and now if you want were done
or if you want to be a good netizen we can show you how to setup a null spf
on each domain not used for email,
and host only spf for those used in HELO /EHLO greetings

and we could also show you how to setup a sender-id record to stop your spf record being mis-used as one

At 09:38 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:

>Ok thanks Alan
>
>
>"a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}"
>
>Aahaha, really? I use what the boss has given me to work with, no choice..unless I push fo it. Ive used DDNS also, what do you suggest?

just edit the dns by hand its only simple text files
for a one man show there is never any need for a gui
{it can be useful if you have Lusers needing to edit their own zones, but no real admins use web gui's as it means you cant do all the extra records that dns is capable of, like multiple ip's for a name and SRV records etc}

what is the actual server beneath the GUI, all i know is i can only get responses from one of your 3 servers the others time out from here

>Ok Ive done as follows:
>
>1) host: _spf
>
>
>2) domain: easynetworks
>
>3) type: TXT
>
>4) target: v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>
>
>Danny
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:04 PM
>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>
>a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}
>
>yes target is the mis-label they are using to describe "value"
>
>so as described umpteen times the "Value" of the txt record should be
>
>v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>
>as typed we will check so if you make a mistake it will cause you no harm we will just keep editing till it works
>
>
>At 08:16 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>url to screen shot:
>>
>>http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7783/ods.png
>>
>>Danny
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 5:01 PM
>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>
>>At 07:39 22/10/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>Does this list not accept html? Ive sent through some screen shots & I didn?t get the email back, so I gather not?
>>
>>i guess not try posting them online and send us a url
>>
>>
>>>Danny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rob MacGregor [mailto:rob.macgregor@gmail.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 4:28 PM
>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>Subject: Re: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>
>>>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:14, Danny Vincent <danny@easynetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Ok, I have access to my domains records. Ive got A, MX, Cname & ptr records & realise you want me to add a .txt record.
>>>>
>>>> I just don?t know how to set out the txt record.
>>>
>>>What type of DNS server are you using, what interface are you using to it?
>>>
>>>--
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>>>
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>>> doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche
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RE: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 2009, 2:40 AM

Post #31 of 37 (7002 views)

At 10:22 22/10/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>Hmmm, I have added the record, but on spf checks after perhaps 30 mins or so, there is still no spf record.
>
>Not sure if that means dns server around the place haven?t updated, but I'll take your word on it.
>
>Ive added the new record as you suggested below.

my bad sleepless i typed
v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au

but meant

v=spf1 redirect=_spf.easynetworks.com.au

ie for our spf look at this one _spf.easynetworks.com.au <the general one we created earlier

>Danny
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:11 PM
>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>
>woohoo and that part worked fine tested from here just before your mail arrived
>
>_spf.easynetworks.com.au text = "v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all"
>
>now to apply it to the first domain
>
>so next is
>host {nothing} blank nada
>domain your own again
>type txt
>Value {you'll never get anyone to say target}
>v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au
>
>
>then repeat for each domain you wish to setup spf for
>name type and value identical just domain changing for each
>
>then for extra brownie points send me an email direct so we can see if all is well
>
>and now if you want were done
>or if you want to be a good netizen we can show you how to setup a null spf
>on each domain not used for email,
>and host only spf for those used in HELO /EHLO greetings
>
>and we could also show you how to setup a sender-id record to stop your spf record being mis-used as one
>
>At 09:38 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>
>
>>Ok thanks Alan
>>
>>
>>"a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}"
>>
>>Aahaha, really? I use what the boss has given me to work with, no choice..unless I push fo it. Ive used DDNS also, what do you suggest?
>
>just edit the dns by hand its only simple text files
>for a one man show there is never any need for a gui
>{it can be useful if you have Lusers needing to edit their own zones, but no real admins use web gui's as it means you cant do all the extra records that dns is capable of, like multiple ip's for a name and SRV records etc}
>
>what is the actual server beneath the GUI, all i know is i can only get responses from one of your 3 servers the others time out from here
>
>
>
>>Ok Ive done as follows:
>>
>>1) host: _spf
>>
>>
>>2) domain: easynetworks
>>
>>3) type: TXT
>>
>>4) target: v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>>
>>
>>Danny
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:04 PM
>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>
>>a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}
>>
>>yes target is the mis-label they are using to describe "value"
>>
>>so as described umpteen times the "Value" of the txt record should be
>>
>>v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>>
>>as typed we will check so if you make a mistake it will cause you no harm we will just keep editing till it works
>>
>>
>>At 08:16 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>>url to screen shot:
>>>
>>>http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7783/ods.png
>>>
>>>Danny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 5:01 PM
>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>
>>>At 07:39 22/10/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>>Does this list not accept html? Ive sent through some screen shots & I didn?t get the email back, so I gather not?
>>>
>>>i guess not try posting them online and send us a url
>>>
>>>
>>>>Danny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Rob MacGregor [mailto:rob.macgregor@gmail.com]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 4:28 PM
>>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:14, Danny Vincent <danny@easynetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I have access to my domains records. Ive got A, MX, Cname & ptr records & realise you want me to add a .txt record.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just don?t know how to set out the txt record.
>>>>
>>>>What type of DNS server are you using, what interface are you using to it?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>> Please keep list traffic on the list.
>>>>
>>>>Rob MacGregor
>>>> Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
>>>> doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche
>>>>
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RE: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 2009, 2:43 AM

Post #32 of 37 (7015 views)

At 10:25 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>Nice! On running the spf check again I get
>
>Yes, easynetworks.com.au has an SPF version 1 record.
>
>Hostname: easynetworks.com.au
>IP: 203.143.228.14
>Mailserver(s): mail.easynetworks.com.au
>SPF Record:
>v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au
>
>
>So I repeat the 2 processes we did with the _spf record & the "nothng" record for all other domains I host?

not yet you have an spf record but currently it has my typo in it
fix it first and after iI/We have tested and verified it then and only then start adding it to others

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RE: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 2009, 2:46 AM

Post #33 of 37 (7041 views)

Oh? Where is the typo, I cant tell., lol.

Danny

-----Original Message-----
From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:43 PM
To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2

At 10:25 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>Nice! On running the spf check again I get
>
>Yes, easynetworks.com.au has an SPF version 1 record.
>
>Hostname: easynetworks.com.au
>IP: 203.143.228.14
>Mailserver(s): mail.easynetworks.com.au
>SPF Record:
>v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au
>
>
>So I repeat the 2 processes we did with the _spf record & the "nothng" record for all other domains I host?

not yet you have an spf record but currently it has my typo in it
fix it first and after iI/We have tested and verified it then and only then start adding it to others

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RE: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 2009, 3:04 AM

Post #34 of 37 (7022 views)

At 10:32 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>Although, when I run a test on dnsstuff it says
>
>Name : mail.easynetworks.com.au
>Pref : 10
>Addresses: 203.143.228.24
>Port :25
>SPF : permerror

see my previous message about the typo I {in my sleep deprived state} made
{i checked in the first mail i sent the entries were all fine i'm just not repeating things so well}

again it needs to be
v=spf1 redirect=_spf.easynetworks.com.au

not _spf1.easynetworks.com.au which dosn't exist

and re the dnsstuff test there is no spf for mail.easynetworks.com.au
{yet.. that is unrelated}

were still setting up SPF for users@easynetworks.com.au

not for users@mail.easynetworks.com.au {yet}

> ??
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:11 PM
>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>
>woohoo and that part worked fine tested from here just before your mail arrived
>
>_spf.easynetworks.com.au text = "v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all"
>
>now to apply it to the first domain
>
>so next is
>host {nothing} blank nada
>domain your own again
>type txt
>Value {you'll never get anyone to say target}
>v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au
>
>
>then repeat for each domain you wish to setup spf for
>name type and value identical just domain changing for each
>
>then for extra brownie points send me an email direct so we can see if all is well
>
>and now if you want were done
>or if you want to be a good netizen we can show you how to setup a null spf
>on each domain not used for email,
>and host only spf for those used in HELO /EHLO greetings
>
>and we could also show you how to setup a sender-id record to stop your spf record being mis-used as one
>
>At 09:38 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>
>
>>Ok thanks Alan
>>
>>
>>"a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}"
>>
>>Aahaha, really? I use what the boss has given me to work with, no choice..unless I push fo it. Ive used DDNS also, what do you suggest?
>
>just edit the dns by hand its only simple text files
>for a one man show there is never any need for a gui
>{it can be useful if you have Lusers needing to edit their own zones, but no real admins use web gui's as it means you cant do all the extra records that dns is capable of, like multiple ip's for a name and SRV records etc}
>
>what is the actual server beneath the GUI, all i know is i can only get responses from one of your 3 servers the others time out from here
>
>
>
>>Ok Ive done as follows:
>>
>>1) host: _spf
>>
>>
>>2) domain: easynetworks
>>
>>3) type: TXT
>>
>>4) target: v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>>
>>
>>Danny
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:04 PM
>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>
>>a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}
>>
>>yes target is the mis-label they are using to describe "value"
>>
>>so as described umpteen times the "Value" of the txt record should be
>>
>>v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>>
>>as typed we will check so if you make a mistake it will cause you no harm we will just keep editing till it works
>>
>>
>>At 08:16 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>>url to screen shot:
>>>
>>>http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7783/ods.png
>>>
>>>Danny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 5:01 PM
>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>
>>>At 07:39 22/10/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>>Does this list not accept html? Ive sent through some screen shots & I didn?t get the email back, so I gather not?
>>>
>>>i guess not try posting them online and send us a url
>>>
>>>
>>>>Danny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Rob MacGregor [mailto:rob.macgregor@gmail.com]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 4:28 PM
>>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:14, Danny Vincent <danny@easynetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I have access to my domains records. Ive got A, MX, Cname & ptr records & realise you want me to add a .txt record.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just don?t know how to set out the txt record.
>>>>
>>>>What type of DNS server are you using, what interface are you using to it?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>> Please keep list traffic on the list.
>>>>
>>>>Rob MacGregor
>>>> Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
>>>> doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche
>>>>
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RE: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 2009, 3:16 AM

Post #35 of 37 (7016 views)

Ok, Ive updated that txt record as you said. Yeah, I know about the sleep deprevation. Ive got 2 kids & am on my 4th all nighter this week for work.

Probably why I'm not comprehending things like I should, thanks again.

If you need to get some shut eye, that’s cool, I'll be on a network integration job until 11-12pm tonight & will be back at work at 7am tomorrow.

Danny

-----Original Message-----
From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 8:05 PM
To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2

At 10:32 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>Although, when I run a test on dnsstuff it says
>
>Name : mail.easynetworks.com.au
>Pref : 10
>Addresses: 203.143.228.24
>Port :25
>SPF : permerror

see my previous message about the typo I {in my sleep deprived state} made
{i checked in the first mail i sent the entries were all fine i'm just not repeating things so well}

again it needs to be
v=spf1 redirect=_spf.easynetworks.com.au

not _spf1.easynetworks.com.au which dosn't exist

and re the dnsstuff test there is no spf for mail.easynetworks.com.au
{yet.. that is unrelated}

were still setting up SPF for users@easynetworks.com.au

not for users@mail.easynetworks.com.au {yet}

> ??
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:11 PM
>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>
>woohoo and that part worked fine tested from here just before your mail arrived
>
>_spf.easynetworks.com.au text = "v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all"
>
>now to apply it to the first domain
>
>so next is
>host {nothing} blank nada
>domain your own again
>type txt
>Value {you'll never get anyone to say target}
>v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au
>
>
>then repeat for each domain you wish to setup spf for
>name type and value identical just domain changing for each
>
>then for extra brownie points send me an email direct so we can see if all is well
>
>and now if you want were done
>or if you want to be a good netizen we can show you how to setup a null spf
>on each domain not used for email,
>and host only spf for those used in HELO /EHLO greetings
>
>and we could also show you how to setup a sender-id record to stop your spf record being mis-used as one
>
>At 09:38 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>
>
>>Ok thanks Alan
>>
>>
>>"a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}"
>>
>>Aahaha, really? I use what the boss has given me to work with, no choice..unless I push fo it. Ive used DDNS also, what do you suggest?
>
>just edit the dns by hand its only simple text files
>for a one man show there is never any need for a gui
>{it can be useful if you have Lusers needing to edit their own zones, but no real admins use web gui's as it means you cant do all the extra records that dns is capable of, like multiple ip's for a name and SRV records etc}
>
>what is the actual server beneath the GUI, all i know is i can only get responses from one of your 3 servers the others time out from here
>
>
>
>>Ok Ive done as follows:
>>
>>1) host: _spf
>>
>>
>>2) domain: easynetworks
>>
>>3) type: TXT
>>
>>4) target: v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>>
>>
>>Danny
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:04 PM
>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>
>>a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}
>>
>>yes target is the mis-label they are using to describe "value"
>>
>>so as described umpteen times the "Value" of the txt record should be
>>
>>v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>>
>>as typed we will check so if you make a mistake it will cause you no harm we will just keep editing till it works
>>
>>
>>At 08:16 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>>url to screen shot:
>>>
>>>http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7783/ods.png
>>>
>>>Danny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 5:01 PM
>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>
>>>At 07:39 22/10/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>>Does this list not accept html? Ive sent through some screen shots & I didn?t get the email back, so I gather not?
>>>
>>>i guess not try posting them online and send us a url
>>>
>>>
>>>>Danny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Rob MacGregor [mailto:rob.macgregor@gmail.com]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 4:28 PM
>>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:14, Danny Vincent <danny@easynetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I have access to my domains records. Ive got A, MX, Cname & ptr records & realise you want me to add a .txt record.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just don?t know how to set out the txt record.
>>>>
>>>>What type of DNS server are you using, what interface are you using to it?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>> Please keep list traffic on the list.
>>>>
>>>>Rob MacGregor
>>>> Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
>>>> doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche
>>>>
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RE: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 2009, 3:58 AM

Post #36 of 37 (7020 views)

At 11:16 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:

>Ok, Ive updated that txt record as you said. Yeah, I know about the sleep deprevation. Ive got 2 kids & am on my 4th all nighter this week for work.
>
>Probably why I'm not comprehending things like I should, thanks again.
>
>If you need to get some shut eye, that?s cool, I'll be on a network integration job until 11-12pm tonight & will be back at work at 7am tomorrow.

will do soon

ok just verified that change so now send me some email directly so we can see something that passes spf checks

then we can delve into the non-essential bits {according to SPF puritans} that I find are essential for a happy peaceful life like helo/ehlo SPF records

and if your dns software allows you we will also look at sender-id records {as if you don't have them the idiots mis-use your spf record in ways it was never intended to be used}

>Danny
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 8:05 PM
>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>
>At 10:32 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>Although, when I run a test on dnsstuff it says
>>
>>Name : mail.easynetworks.com.au
>>Pref : 10
>>Addresses: 203.143.228.24
>>Port :25
>>SPF : permerror
>
>see my previous message about the typo I {in my sleep deprived state} made
>{i checked in the first mail i sent the entries were all fine i'm just not repeating things so well}
>
>again it needs to be
>v=spf1 redirect=_spf.easynetworks.com.au
>
>not _spf1.easynetworks.com.au which dosn't exist
>
>and re the dnsstuff test there is no spf for mail.easynetworks.com.au
>{yet.. that is unrelated}
>
>were still setting up SPF for users@easynetworks.com.au
>
>not for users@mail.easynetworks.com.au {yet}
>
>
>
>> ??
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:11 PM
>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>
>>woohoo and that part worked fine tested from here just before your mail arrived
>>
>>_spf.easynetworks.com.au text = "v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all"
>>
>>now to apply it to the first domain
>>
>>so next is
>>host {nothing} blank nada
>>domain your own again
>>type txt
>>Value {you'll never get anyone to say target}
>>v=spf1 redirect=_spf1.easynetworks.com.au
>>
>>
>>then repeat for each domain you wish to setup spf for
>>name type and value identical just domain changing for each
>>
>>then for extra brownie points send me an email direct so we can see if all is well
>>
>>and now if you want were done
>>or if you want to be a good netizen we can show you how to setup a null spf
>>on each domain not used for email,
>>and host only spf for those used in HELO /EHLO greetings
>>
>>and we could also show you how to setup a sender-id record to stop your spf record being mis-used as one
>>
>>At 09:38 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ok thanks Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>"a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}"
>>>
>>>Aahaha, really? I use what the boss has given me to work with, no choice..unless I push fo it. Ive used DDNS also, what do you suggest?
>>
>>just edit the dns by hand its only simple text files
>>for a one man show there is never any need for a gui
>>{it can be useful if you have Lusers needing to edit their own zones, but no real admins use web gui's as it means you cant do all the extra records that dns is capable of, like multiple ip's for a name and SRV records etc}
>>
>>what is the actual server beneath the GUI, all i know is i can only get responses from one of your 3 servers the others time out from here
>>
>>
>>
>>>Ok Ive done as follows:
>>>
>>>1) host: _spf
>>>
>>>
>>>2) domain: easynetworks
>>>
>>>3) type: TXT
>>>
>>>4) target: v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>>>
>>>
>>>Danny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:04 PM
>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>
>>>a brilliant piece of totaly bad engineering that interface {another product never to use}
>>>
>>>yes target is the mis-label they are using to describe "value"
>>>
>>>so as described umpteen times the "Value" of the txt record should be
>>>
>>>v=spf1 a:mail.webconnect.com.au -all
>>>
>>>as typed we will check so if you make a mistake it will cause you no harm we will just keep editing till it works
>>>
>>>
>>>At 08:16 22/10/2009 Thursday, Danny Vincent wrote:
>>>>url to screen shot:
>>>>
>>>>http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7783/ods.png
>>>>
>>>>Danny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss@alandoherty.net]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 5:01 PM
>>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>>Subject: RE: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>>
>>>>At 07:39 22/10/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>>>Does this list not accept html? Ive sent through some screen shots & I didn?t get the email back, so I gather not?
>>>>
>>>>i guess not try posting them online and send us a url
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Danny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Rob MacGregor [mailto:rob.macgregor@gmail.com]
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 4:28 PM
>>>>>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: [spf-help] SPF tutorial-2
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:14, Danny Vincent <danny@easynetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Ok, I have access to my domains records. Ive got A, MX, Cname & ptr records & realise you want me to add a .txt record.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just don?t know how to set out the txt record.
>>>>>
>>>>>What type of DNS server are you using, what interface are you using to it?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>> Please keep list traffic on the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rob MacGregor
>>>>> Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
>>>>> doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche
>>>>>
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Re: SPF tutorial-2 [ In reply to ]

aculver at uwo

Oct 22, 2009, 7:12 AM

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