Okay is more info as to what I have going. My mail server is the
12.159.225.6 which is mail.midwaynet.net my midwaynet.net email address go
out as user@midwaynet.net, I also have a bunch of virtual domains behind
mail.midwaynet.net example user@ajtsc.com, user@calvaryassembly.com and so
on. And all of this domain also use mail.midwaynet.net as there incoming and
outgoing smtp. I am starting to see what needs to be done, however more help
would be great.
Thanks
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-spf-help@v2.listbox.com
[mailto:owner-spf-help@v2.listbox.com]On Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:34 PM
To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [spf-help] Help
Steve,
I'm not sure if you already got the help you needed on this but had some
information to add for others that may be following the thread.
It's not clear if you send out mail as user@mail.midwaynet.net or
user@midawaynet.net for the From addresses. This makes a difference.
Most people are doing masquerading and email show as coming from the
domain itself and not the specific server within the domain.
This means that you want your TXT record to be for the actual domain name
and not for mail.midwaynet.net as it would be in the snippet below. The
TXT entry as it appears would be if your email messages are sent from
users@mail.midwaynet.net.
Now since mail.midwaynet.net is your MX for the domain, what I believe you
really want to do is move the TXT record up to just above the "www IN A
..." record and replace the 'a' within your SPF to 'mx'.
The obscure thing that gets you here is that many people don't realize
that when they place a record in the file it will apply to "the last host
name specified". For the first several lines (like your NS records) this
is the host '@' which gets translated to the actual domain name using this
table (i.e. midwaynet.net). Now the TXT record where you have placed it
will apply to the 'mail' entry. Since this entry does not have a trailing
'.' it will have the domain appended to it so you end up with
'mail.midwaynet.net' that the TXT entry applies. I don't think that's
what you intended.
If that doesn't make sense than please let me know and I will try to
explain better.
Hope that helps,
-dj
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Steve J. Drenner wrote:
~ 12.159.225.6 is the email server.
~
~ I also changed the l to a 1
~
~ -----Original Message-----
~ From: owner-spf-help@v2.listbox.com
~ [mailto:owner-spf-help@v2.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Ward, Stuart
~ Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:38 AM
~ To: 'spf-help@v2.listbox.com'
~ Subject: RE: [spf-help] Help
~
~
~ Do you also send outbound through the server at 12.159.225.6?
~
~ Shouldn't "IN A 12.159.225.9" be "midwaynet.net IN A 12.159.225.9"
~
~ -----Original Message-----
~ From: Steve J. Drenner [mailto:sdrenner@midwaynet.net]
~ Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:29 AM
~ To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
~ Subject: RE: [spf-help] Help
~
~
~ Yes, and here is a copy of one of the zones;
~
~ @ IN SOA midwaynet3.midwaynet.net.
~ hostmaster.midwaynet.net. (
~ 2004101201 ; serial
~ 10800 ; refresh after 3 hours
~ 3600 ; retry after 1 hour
~ 604800 ; expire after 1 week
~ 86400 ; ttl of 1 day
~ )
~
~ NS ns1.midwaynet.net.
~ NS ns2.midwaynet.net.
~ IN MX 10 mail.midwaynet.net.
~ IN A 12.159.225.9
~
~ www IN A 12.159.225.9
~ ftp IN A 12.159.225.9
~ mail IN A 12.159.225.6
~ IN TXT "v=spfl a include:midwaynet.net -all"
~
~ -----Original Message-----
~ From: owner-spf-help@v2.listbox.com
~ [mailto:owner-spf-help@v2.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Ward, Stuart
~ Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:18 AM
~ To: 'spf-help@v2.listbox.com'
~ Subject: RE: [spf-help] Help
~
~
~ Do you have an A record for your domain?
~
~ -----Original Message-----
~ From: Steve J. Drenner [mailto:sdrenner@midwaynet.net]
~ Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:16 AM
~ To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
~ Subject: [spf-help] Help
~
~
~ I am trying to put in the spf txt line in my DNS Server. I guess I am not
~ sure in what file and where in the file this should go.
~ I added the line to my db.domainname and then went to www.dnsreport.com
and
~ it says that the spf file is there but when I go to
~
http://www.dnsstuff.com/pages/spf.htm ~ it says fail.
~
~ I am running bind on my Linux servers for dns.
~
~ in my db.domainname I put (IN TXT v=spfl a include:midwaynet.net -all)
~
~ Thanks for any help
~ Steve
~
~
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