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Hi,

try to consider my s/qmail (http://www.fehcom.de/sqmail.html) instead.

It is build for FreeBSD.
The qmail code is aging.
netqmail is just a work around without solving the relevant issues.

regards.
--eh.


Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de <http://www.fehcom.de/> | PGP Key-Id: EE00CF65





> Am 26.01.2016 um 19:27 schrieb Bill Olson <support@nelsonandwright.com>:
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is Bill Olson and I have been using qmail for about 11+ years now. I have had my own guide on freebsdrocks.net <http://freebsdrocks.net/> which I have been keeping up to date every few months.
>
> I seem to be having an issue with applying John Simpsons patch with netqmail. I have found through trial and error that qmail and netqmail do not co-exist peacefully. I have learned that netqmail is what is now recommended but I have a few issues with this. Please excuse my ignorance as I am *very* new to netqmail. What I have done to make netqmail work on Freebsd is downloading netqmail 1.06 along with roberto-netqmail-1.06.patch-latest. I cannot recall if I added John Simpsons validrcptto’s patch before or after but qmail *apprears* to be working. My issue is when I send via SSL I get an error 256. If I run the install of the qmail port and run a make install it starts working. I am using John Simpsons qmail-smtp-run scripts on qmail.
>
> I also have an intermittent issue with TLS. Does TLS with netqmail work out of the box? Are there are specific instructions setup to enable TLS on netqmail?
>
> If someone can point me to relevant information on how to get John Simpsons patch working with netqmail … I would be so happy.
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Bill Olson

Hello,

I'll setup a test vm and give it a try. Thank you.

Bill

On 2016-01-26 17:08, Erwin Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> try to consider my s/qmail (http://www.fehcom.de/sqmail.html [2])
> instead.
>
> It is build for FreeBSD.
> The qmail code is aging.
> netqmail is just a work around without solving the relevant issues.
>
> regards.
> --eh.
>
> Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de [3] | PGP Key-Id:
> EE00CF65
>
>> Am 26.01.2016 um 19:27 schrieb Bill Olson
>> <support@nelsonandwright.com>:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> My name is Bill Olson and I have been using qmail for about 11+
>> years now. I have had my own guide on freebsdrocks.net [1] which I
>> have been keeping up to date every few months.
>>
>> I seem to be having an issue with applying John Simpsons patch with
>> netqmail. I have found through trial and error that qmail and
>> netqmail do not co-exist peacefully. I have learned that netqmail is
>> what is now recommended but I have a few issues with this. Please
>> excuse my ignorance as I am *VERY* new to netqmail. What I have done
>> to make netqmail work on Freebsd is downloading netqmail 1.06 along
>> with roberto-netqmail-1.06.patch-latest. I cannot recall if I added
>> John Simpsons validrcptto’s patch before or after but qmail
>> *APPREARS* to be working. My issue is when I send via SSL I get an
>> error 256. If I run the install of the qmail port and run a make
>> install it starts working. I am using John Simpsons qmail-smtp-run
>> scripts on qmail.
>>
>> I also have an intermittent issue with TLS. Does TLS with netqmail
>> work out of the box? Are there are specific instructions setup to
>> enable TLS on netqmail?
>>
>> If someone can point me to relevant information on how to get John
>> Simpsons patch working with netqmail … I would be so happy.
>>
>> Thank you for your time.
>>
>> Bill Olson
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://freebsdrocks.net/
> [2] http://www.fehcom.de/sqmail.html
> [3] http://www.fehcom.de

I run fedora servers and am willing to setup test servers with sqmail ... i
keep them up to date to the latestg OS's (which is somewhat dangerous but fun
to keep ahead of, currently on core 23) ... so if you want i can try to keep
sqmail as my default MTA? LMK

Kirk



On 1/26/2016 2:08 PM, Erwin Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> try to consider my s/qmail (http://www.fehcom.de/sqmail.html) instead.
>
> It is build for FreeBSD.
> The qmail code is aging.
> netqmail is just a work around without solving the relevant issues.
>
> regards.
> --eh.
>
>
> Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de | PGP Key-Id: EE00CF65
>
>
>
>
>
>> Am 26.01.2016 um 19:27 schrieb Bill Olson <support@nelsonandwright.com
>> <mailto:support@nelsonandwright.com>>:
>>
>> Hello,
>> My name is Bill Olson and I have been using qmail for about 11+ years now.
>> I have had my own guide onfreebsdrocks.net <http://freebsdrocks.net/>which
>> I have been keeping up to date every few months.
>> I seem to be having an issue with applying John Simpsons patch with
>> netqmail. I have found through trial and error that qmail and netqmail do
>> not co-exist peacefully. I have learned that netqmail is what is now
>> recommended but I have a few issues with this. Please excuse my ignorance
>> as I am **very** new to netqmail. What I have done to make netqmail work on
>> Freebsd is downloading netqmail 1.06 along with
>> roberto-netqmail-1.06.patch-latest. I cannot recall if I added John
>> Simpsons validrcptto’s patch before or after but qmail **apprears** to be
>> working. My issue is when I send via SSL I get an error 256. If I run the
>> install of the qmail port and run a make install it starts working. I am
>> using John Simpsons qmail-smtp-run scripts on qmail.
>> I also have an intermittent issue with TLS. Does TLS with netqmail work out
>> of the box? Are there are specific instructions setup to enable TLS on
>> netqmail?
>> If someone can point me to relevant information on how to get John Simpsons
>> patch working with netqmail … I would be so happy.
>> Thank you for your time.
>> Bill Olson
>

Hi Kirk,

just go ahead.

TLS is of cause different w.r.t. to standard patches; but remember: The UCSPI-SSL solution was the only one, which protected the SMTP Auth and POP3 users not leaking their userid and password in the first place by the Tearblood bug.

regards.
--eh.

Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de <http://www.fehcom.de/> | PGP Key-Id: EE00CF65





> Am 27.01.2016 um 05:13 schrieb kirk <kirk@icapsolutions.com>:
>
> I run fedora servers and am willing to setup test servers with sqmail ... i keep them up to date to the latestg OS's (which is somewhat dangerous but fun to keep ahead of, currently on core 23) ... so if you want i can try to keep sqmail as my default MTA? LMK
>
> Kirk
>
>
>
> On 1/26/2016 2:08 PM, Erwin Hoffmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> try to consider my s/qmail ( <http://www.fehcom.de/sqmail.html>http://www.fehcom.de/sqmail.html <http://www.fehcom.de/sqmail.html>) instead.
>>
>> It is build for FreeBSD.
>> The qmail code is aging.
>> netqmail is just a work around without solving the relevant issues.
>>
>> regards.
>> --eh.
>>
>>
>> Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | <http://www.fehcom.de/>http://www.fehcom.de <http://www.fehcom.de/> | PGP Key-Id: EE00CF65
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 26.01.2016 um 19:27 schrieb Bill Olson < <mailto:support@nelsonandwright.com>support@nelsonandwright.com <mailto:support@nelsonandwright.com>>:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> My name is Bill Olson and I have been using qmail for about 11+ years now. I have had my own guide on freebsdrocks.net <http://freebsdrocks.net/> which I have been keeping up to date every few months.
>>>
>>> I seem to be having an issue with applying John Simpsons patch with netqmail. I have found through trial and error that qmail and netqmail do not co-exist peacefully. I have learned that netqmail is what is now recommended but I have a few issues with this. Please excuse my ignorance as I am *very* new to netqmail. What I have done to make netqmail work on Freebsd is downloading netqmail 1.06 along with roberto-netqmail-1.06.patch-latest. I cannot recall if I added John Simpsons validrcptto’s patch before or after but qmail *apprears* to be working. My issue is when I send via SSL I get an error 256. If I run the install of the qmail port and run a make install it starts working. I am using John Simpsons qmail-smtp-run scripts on qmail.
>>>
>>> I also have an intermittent issue with TLS. Does TLS with netqmail work out of the box? Are there are specific instructions setup to enable TLS on netqmail?
>>>
>>> If someone can point me to relevant information on how to get John Simpsons patch working with netqmail … I would be so happy.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time.
>>>
>>> Bill Olson
>>
>

Hello,



Well I don’t see anything on that page about using another patch. What patch does this use? The reason I ask is if I use John Simpsons patch at https://qmail.jms1.net/patches/combined-details.shtml I won’t get his features like validrcptto (which is awesome) and other settings. How do your run files differ from his? Have you used John’s scripts before?



Bill Olson



From: Erwin Hoffmann [mailto:feh@fehcom.de]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:08 PM
To: Bill Olson <support@nelsonandwright.com>
Cc: qmail@list.cr.yp.to
Subject: Re: Netqmail vs qmail



Hi,



try to consider my s/qmail (http://www.fehcom.de/sqmail.html) instead.



It is build for FreeBSD.

The qmail code is aging.

netqmail is just a work around without solving the relevant issues.



regards.

--eh.





Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de | PGP Key-Id: EE00CF65









Am 26.01.2016 um 19:27 schrieb Bill Olson <support@nelsonandwright.com <mailto:support@nelsonandwright.com> >:



Hello,



My name is Bill Olson and I have been using qmail for about 11+ years now. I have had my own guide on <http://freebsdrocks.net/> freebsdrocks.net which I have been keeping up to date every few months.



I seem to be having an issue with applying John Simpsons patch with netqmail. I have found through trial and error that qmail and netqmail do not co-exist peacefully. I have learned that netqmail is what is now recommended but I have a few issues with this. Please excuse my ignorance as I am *very* new to netqmail. What I have done to make netqmail work on Freebsd is downloading netqmail 1.06 along with roberto-netqmail-1.06.patch-latest. I cannot recall if I added John Simpsons validrcptto’s patch before or after but qmail *apprears* to be working. My issue is when I send via SSL I get an error 256. If I run the install of the qmail port and run a make install it starts working. I am using John Simpsons qmail-smtp-run scripts on qmail.



I also have an intermittent issue with TLS. Does TLS with netqmail work out of the box? Are there are specific instructions setup to enable TLS on netqmail?



If someone can point me to relevant information on how to get John Simpsons patch working with netqmail … I would be so happy.



Thank you for your time.



Bill Olson

Hi Bill (+ all others),

s/qmail ist basically qmail but with a lot of enhancements. I thought to have explained those on my web site.

What is included:

- AMD64
- IPv6
- TLS
- Auth
- Recipient verification
- ....

And no, no patches yet. In particular I'm not interested to include bloated functionality and STDIO program pieces.
Unfortunately, the docs are not yet finished, but what you are looking for is already explained:

http://fehcom.de/sqmail/sqmaildoc_04.html


Simply, give it a try!

regards.
--eh.





> Am 27.01.2016 um 18:59 schrieb Bill Olson <support@nelsonandwright.com>:
>
> Hello,
>
> Well I don’t see anything on that page about using another patch. What patch does this use? The reason I ask is if I use John Simpsons patch at https://qmail.jms1.net/patches/combined-details.shtml <https://qmail.jms1.net/patches/combined-details.shtml> I won’t get his features like validrcptto (which is awesome) and other settings. How do your run files differ from his? Have you used John’s scripts before?
>
> Bill Olson
>
>
Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de <http://www.fehcom.de/> | PGP Key-Id: EE00CF65