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Re: [WNYLUG-Users] QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
Hi


Am 09.02.2012 um 20:33 schrieb Darin Perusich:

> You can still use SysV init script on OpenSUSE 12.1 even though
> systemd is the new facility for launching services. Based on the
> original email sent daemontools is somehow related to the problem,
> which in itself is another replacement for init script.
>

Since Robert did now tell us HOW he installed Daemontools into the system -- thats all guessing.

Certainly, daemontools/supervise are not 'another replacement for init scripts' -- though some people tweaked them to do so.
In fact, DJB's daemontools were some how pioneering the idea of a service (launchd, systemd ....) though no to be event-triggered.

Thus, what we need is detailed description, how to set up daemontools under OpenSuSE 12.1 -- this would help everybody.
If you can contribute to this, please let us know. Otherwise, I need to have a look.

regards.
--eh.

> --
> Later,
> Darin
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Robert Wolfe <rwolfe@fpsoft.net> wrote:
>> Ok, in this case, I think I will stay with Debian for using Qmail.
>> Thanks for the pointer.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Erwin Hoffmann [mailto:feh@fehcom.de]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:32 AM
>> To: Robert Wolfe
>> Cc: Maurice Lucas - TAOS-IT; Qmail List; users@wnylug.org
>> Subject: Re: QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>>
>> Am 09.02.2012 um 16:47 schrieb Robert Wolfe:
>>
>>> Ok, but was not able to locate either of these files L Here is my
>> version of OpenSUSE 12.1's kernel:
>>>
>>> Linux mailout 3.1.9-1.4-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 27 08:55:10 UTC
>>
>>> 2012 (efb5ff4) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> Actually, the SuSE people decided to move away from the init runlevel
>> scripts to another method (systemd).
>> As usual, they screw up things such, it is hard to tell how the system
>> is actually working (remember the famous yast).
>>
>> See: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Systemd
>>
>> Whether 64 or 32 bit doesn't make a difference.
>>
>> regards.
>> --eh.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Would it be best if I used the 32 bit version?
>>>
>>> From: Maurice Lucas - TAOS-IT [mailto:mslucas@TAOS-IT.nl]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:21 AM
>>> To: Robert Wolfe; Qmail List; users@wnylug.org
>>> Subject: RE: QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
>>>
>>> I had the same problem today on Ubuntu. The solution there was to use
>>> this file. Another location for this file could be
>>> /etc/event/svscan.conf
>>>
>>> ~$ cat /etc/init/svscan.conf
>>> # svscan - daemontools
>>> #
>>> # This service starts daemontools from the point the system is #
>>> started until it is shut down again.
>>>
>>> start on runlevel [123456]
>>> stop on shutdown
>>>
>>> respawn
>>> exec /usr/bin/svscanboot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> met vriendelijke groet,
>>>
>>> Maurice Lucas
>>>
>>> TAOS-IT
>>>
>> ........................................................................
>> ....
>>> Hoflandendreef 209
>>> 2614 MS Delft
>>> www.taos-it.nl
>>> KvK Haaglanden nr. 27254410
>>>
>>> Van: Robert Wolfe [mailto:rwolfe@fpsoft.net]
>>> Verzonden: donderdag 9 februari 2012 15:43
>>> Aan: Qmail List; users@wnylug.org
>>> Onderwerp: QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> I am having an issue where I am trying to install netqmail/qmail under
>> OpenSuSE 12.1 and I am able to get everything to build, however, it does
>> not look as if daemontools is starting at any point. Grepping a ps for
>> svscan doesn't yield any results. Is there some change I need to make
>> here in order to get this to run?
>>>
>>> TIA!
>>> Robert
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de | PGP Key-Id:
>> 7E4034BE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [WNYLUG-Users] QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1 [ In reply to ]
In this case, that would be the correct assumption. Now, my question is is
how to make daemontools behave and act normally in opensuse 12.1?

-----Original Message-----
From: users-bounces@wnylug.org [mailto:users-bounces@wnylug.org] On Behalf
Of Darin Perusich
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:33 PM
To: Western New York Linux Users Group Users Mailing List
Cc: Erwin Hoffmann; Maurice Lucas - TAOS-IT
Subject: Re: [WNYLUG-Users] QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1

You can still use SysV init script on OpenSUSE 12.1 even though systemd is
the new facility for launching services. Based on the original email sent
daemontools is somehow related to the problem, which in itself is another
replacement for init script.

--
Later,
Darin



On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Robert Wolfe <rwolfe@fpsoft.net> wrote:
> Ok, in this case, I think I will stay with Debian for using Qmail.
> Thanks for the pointer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erwin Hoffmann [mailto:feh@fehcom.de]
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:32 AM
> To: Robert Wolfe
> Cc: Maurice Lucas - TAOS-IT; Qmail List; users@wnylug.org
> Subject: Re: QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
>
> Hi Robert,
>
>
> Am 09.02.2012 um 16:47 schrieb Robert Wolfe:
>
>> Ok, but was not able to locate either of these files L  Here is my
> version of OpenSUSE 12.1's kernel:
>>
>> Linux mailout 3.1.9-1.4-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 27 08:55:10
>> UTC
>
>> 2012 (efb5ff4) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Actually, the SuSE people decided to move away from the init runlevel
> scripts to  another method (systemd).
> As usual, they screw up things such, it is hard to tell how the system
> is actually working (remember the famous yast).
>
> See: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Systemd
>
> Whether 64 or 32 bit doesn't make a difference.
>
> regards.
> --eh.
>
>
>>
>> Would it be best if I used the 32 bit version?
>>
>> From: Maurice Lucas - TAOS-IT [mailto:mslucas@TAOS-IT.nl]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:21 AM
>> To: Robert Wolfe; Qmail List; users@wnylug.org
>> Subject: RE: QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
>>
>> I had the same problem today on Ubuntu. The solution there was to use
>> this file. Another location for this file could be
>> /etc/event/svscan.conf
>>
>> ~$ cat /etc/init/svscan.conf
>> # svscan - daemontools
>> #
>> # This service starts daemontools from the point the system is #
>> started until it is shut down again.
>>
>> start on runlevel [123456]
>> stop on shutdown
>>
>> respawn
>> exec /usr/bin/svscanboot
>>
>>
>>
>> met vriendelijke groet,
>>
>> Maurice Lucas
>>
>> TAOS-IT
>>
> ........................................................................
> ....
>> Hoflandendreef 209
>> 2614 MS  Delft
>> www.taos-it.nl
>> KvK Haaglanden nr. 27254410
>>
>> Van: Robert Wolfe [mailto:rwolfe@fpsoft.net]
>> Verzonden: donderdag 9 februari 2012 15:43
>> Aan: Qmail List; users@wnylug.org
>> Onderwerp: QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
>>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I am having an issue where I am trying to install netqmail/qmail
>> under
> OpenSuSE 12.1 and I am able to get everything to build, however, it
> does not look as if daemontools is starting at any point.  Grepping a
> ps for svscan doesn't yield any results.  Is there some change I need
> to make here in order to get this to run?
>>
>> TIA!
>> Robert
>>
>
> --
> Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de | PGP Key-Id:
> 7E4034BE
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Users@wnylug.org
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RE: [WNYLUG-Users] QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1 [ In reply to ]
Well, it seems I got it working, granted I had to start daemontools
manually and have it fork to the background as such:

/bin/sh /command/svscanboot &

But, it seems to work that way. I just need to figure out how to make
OpenSuSE 12.1 call that at system boot time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Hoffmann [mailto:feh@fehcom.de]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:52 PM
To: Darin Perusich
Cc: Western New York Linux Users Group Users Mailing List; Maurice Lucas
- TAOS-IT; qmail ML
Subject: Re: [WNYLUG-Users] QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1

Hi


Am 09.02.2012 um 20:33 schrieb Darin Perusich:

> You can still use SysV init script on OpenSUSE 12.1 even though
> systemd is the new facility for launching services. Based on the
> original email sent daemontools is somehow related to the problem,
> which in itself is another replacement for init script.
>

Since Robert did now tell us HOW he installed Daemontools into the
system -- thats all guessing.

Certainly, daemontools/supervise are not 'another replacement for init
scripts' -- though some people tweaked them to do so.
In fact, DJB's daemontools were some how pioneering the idea of a
service (launchd, systemd ....) though no to be event-triggered.

Thus, what we need is detailed description, how to set up daemontools
under OpenSuSE 12.1 -- this would help everybody.
If you can contribute to this, please let us know. Otherwise, I need to
have a look.

regards.
--eh.

> --
> Later,
> Darin
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Robert Wolfe <rwolfe@fpsoft.net>
wrote:
>> Ok, in this case, I think I will stay with Debian for using Qmail.
>> Thanks for the pointer.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Erwin Hoffmann [mailto:feh@fehcom.de]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:32 AM
>> To: Robert Wolfe
>> Cc: Maurice Lucas - TAOS-IT; Qmail List; users@wnylug.org
>> Subject: Re: QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>>
>> Am 09.02.2012 um 16:47 schrieb Robert Wolfe:
>>
>>> Ok, but was not able to locate either of these files L Here is my
>> version of OpenSUSE 12.1's kernel:
>>>
>>> Linux mailout 3.1.9-1.4-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 27 08:55:10
>>> UTC
>>
>>> 2012 (efb5ff4) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> Actually, the SuSE people decided to move away from the init runlevel

>> scripts to another method (systemd).
>> As usual, they screw up things such, it is hard to tell how the
>> system is actually working (remember the famous yast).
>>
>> See: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Systemd
>>
>> Whether 64 or 32 bit doesn't make a difference.
>>
>> regards.
>> --eh.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Would it be best if I used the 32 bit version?
>>>
>>> From: Maurice Lucas - TAOS-IT [mailto:mslucas@TAOS-IT.nl]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:21 AM
>>> To: Robert Wolfe; Qmail List; users@wnylug.org
>>> Subject: RE: QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
>>>
>>> I had the same problem today on Ubuntu. The solution there was to
>>> use this file. Another location for this file could be
>>> /etc/event/svscan.conf
>>>
>>> ~$ cat /etc/init/svscan.conf
>>> # svscan - daemontools
>>> #
>>> # This service starts daemontools from the point the system is #
>>> started until it is shut down again.
>>>
>>> start on runlevel [123456]
>>> stop on shutdown
>>>
>>> respawn
>>> exec /usr/bin/svscanboot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> met vriendelijke groet,
>>>
>>> Maurice Lucas
>>>
>>> TAOS-IT
>>>
>>
........................................................................
>> ....
>>> Hoflandendreef 209
>>> 2614 MS Delft
>>> www.taos-it.nl
>>> KvK Haaglanden nr. 27254410
>>>
>>> Van: Robert Wolfe [mailto:rwolfe@fpsoft.net]
>>> Verzonden: donderdag 9 februari 2012 15:43
>>> Aan: Qmail List; users@wnylug.org
>>> Onderwerp: QMail Under OpenSUSE 12.1
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> I am having an issue where I am trying to install netqmail/qmail
>>> under
>> OpenSuSE 12.1 and I am able to get everything to build, however, it
>> does not look as if daemontools is starting at any point. Grepping a

>> ps for svscan doesn't yield any results. Is there some change I need

>> to make here in order to get this to run?
>>>
>>> TIA!
>>> Robert
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de | PGP Key-Id:
>> 7E4034BE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Users mailing list
>> Users@wnylug.org
>> http://wnylug.org/mailman/listinfo/users_wnylug.org

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7E4034BE