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qmail giving up on postgrey graylisting (reply code 450)
Hello,

i got the following problem, when my qmail mailserver tries to deliver e-mails to a customer:

Feb 2 08:26:53 server03 qmail: 1328189213.767595 delivery 1: deferral: 88.198.51.134_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_4.2.0_<xxx@yyy.info>:_Recipient_address_ rejected:_Greylisted,_see_http://postgrey.schweikert.ch/help/yyy.info.html/Giving_up_on_11.22.33.44./

and qmail sends me:

-- qmail response --
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at xxx.yyy.de.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<yyy@xxx.info>:
This address no longer accepts mail.
-- qmail response --

i called the mailprovider, and they told me, that this problem is on our side (qmails fault), because our mailserver doesn't try to resend the e-mail.

so what can/should i do?
RE: qmail giving up on postgrey graylisting (reply code 450) [ In reply to ]
I never had this problem with qmail but did you change your qmailqueue
lifetime?

450 means try again later.

Stolen from
http://www.emailquestions.com/qmail/1381-what-qmail-send-retry-interval-sche
dule.html

The following table lists the frequency at which a qmail relay will continue
to attempt to send a message when it receives a temporary 4xx response code.
The qmail server will give up and bounce the email when the number of
seconds defined by queuelifetime has been reached.

Delivery Attempt Seconds D-HH:MM:SS

1 0 0-00:00:00
2 400 0-00:06:40
3 1600 0-00:26:40
4 3600 0-01:00:00
5 6400 0-01:46:40
6 10000 0-02:46:40
7 14400 0-04:00:00
8 19600 0-05:26:40
9 25600 0-07:06:40
10 32400 0-09:00:00
11 40000 0-11:06:40
12 48400 0-13:26:40
13 57600 0-16:00:00
14 67600 0-18:46:40
15 78400 0-21:46:40
16 90000 1-01:00:00
17 102400 1-04:26:40
18 115600 1-08:06:40
19 129600 1-12:00:00
20 144400 1-16:06:40
21 160000 1-20:26:40
22 176400 2-01:00:00
23 193600 2-05:46:40
24 211600 2-10:46:40
25 230400 2-16:00:00
26 250000 2-21:26:40
27 270400 3-03:06:40
28 291600 3-09:00:00
29 313600 3-15:06:40
30 336400 3-21:26:40
31 360000 4-04:00:00
32 384400 4-10:46:40
33 409600 4-17:46:40
34 435600 5-01:00:00
35 462400 5-08:26:40
36 490000 5-16:06:40
37 518400 6-00:00:00
38 547600 6-08:06:40
39 577600 6-16:26:40
40 608400 7-01:00:00


met vriendelijke groet,
 
Maurice Lucas
 
TAOS-IT
………………………………………………………………....
Hoflandendreef 209
2614 MS  Delft
www.taos-it.nl
KvK Haaglanden nr. 27254410

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Mirko Steiner [mailto:mirko.steiner@me.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 9 februari 2012 15:39
Aan: qmail@list.cr.yp.to
Onderwerp: qmail giving up on postgrey graylisting (reply code 450)

Hello,

i got the following problem, when my qmail mailserver tries to deliver
e-mails to a customer:

Feb 2 08:26:53 server03 qmail: 1328189213.767595 delivery 1: deferral:
88.198.51.134_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_4.2.0_<xxx@yyy.
info>:_Recipient_address_
rejected:_Greylisted,_see_http://postgrey.schweikert.ch/help/yyy.info.html/G
iving_up_on_11.22.33.44./

and qmail sends me:

-- qmail response --
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at xxx.yyy.de.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<yyy@xxx.info>:
This address no longer accepts mail.
-- qmail response --

i called the mailprovider, and they told me, that this problem is on our
side (qmails fault), because our mailserver doesn't try to resend the
e-mail.

so what can/should i do?
Re: qmail giving up on postgrey graylisting (reply code 450) [ In reply to ]
Hi Mirko,


Am 09.02.2012 um 15:39 schrieb Mirko Steiner:

> Hello,
>
> i got the following problem, when my qmail mailserver tries to deliver e-mails to a customer:
>
> Feb 2 08:26:53 server03 qmail: 1328189213.767595 delivery 1: deferral: 88.198.51.134_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_450_4.2.0_<xxx@yyy.info>:_Recipient_address_ rejected:_Greylisted,_see_http://postgrey.schweikert.ch/help/yyy.info.html/Giving_up_on_11.22.33.44./
>

This is ok and normal for Greylisting (Return Code 450).



> and qmail sends me:
>
> -- qmail response --
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at xxx.yyy.de.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <yyy@xxx.info>:
> This address no longer accepts mail.
> -- qmail response --
>

The only reason, why qmail should bounce the message is due to the expiration of the queuelifetime.

Is the last message a double bounce ???

To diagnose the qmail-send log, you can download my 'Newanalyse' package and check the for the consecutive log sequences by means of qmFind.

Check qmail-qread for any pending log entries.

regards.
--eh.





> i called the mailprovider, and they told me, that this problem is on our side (qmails fault), because our mailserver doesn't try to resend the e-mail.
>
> so what can/should i do?

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Re: qmail giving up on postgrey graylisting (reply code 450) [ In reply to ]
Hello,

Am 09.02.2012 um 16:23 schrieb Maurice Lucas - TAOS-IT:

> I never had this problem with qmail but did you change your qmailqueue
> lifetime?

Am 09.02.2012 um 16:32 schrieb Erwin Hoffmann:

> The only reason, why qmail should bounce the message is due to the expiration of the queuelifetime.


hmmm mysteriously it works now, i think something was broken on their site and they fixed it now... *hmpf*! Wasted more then 2h of my life. Thanks for your support!