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Fwd: Problems Installing and getting started.
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From: Mark Bass <markbass649@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 at 08:09
Subject: Problems Installing and getting started.
To: <python-list@python.org>


Good morning,

I installed python several hours ago (from python.org), I then installed
the IDE PyCharm. I'm using AI to help with a project that requires
statistical analysis.
I cannot open python, when I double clicked a "Modify Setup" window
appeared with the three options Modify, Repair and Uninstall to click. I
assumed this was part of the final installation process and clicked Modify
- it seemed to be successful. I still could not open python. I asked the AI
and it suggested to click Repair, this still made no difference. I finally
Uninstalled it, shut down my laptop, had a coffee then re-installed it but
the same problem occurred.
Can you help ? Any suggestions?
I'm really pleased with the AI so far and looking forward to using Python
to get my project started.
Best Regards.....Mark
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Re: Fwd: Problems Installing and getting started. [ In reply to ]
On 2023-05-31 08:34, Mark Bass wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Mark Bass <markbass649@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 at 08:09
> Subject: Problems Installing and getting started.
> To: <python-list@python.org>
>
>
> Good morning,
>
> I installed python several hours ago (from python.org), I then installed
> the IDE PyCharm. I'm using AI to help with a project that requires
> statistical analysis.
> I cannot open python, when I double clicked a "Modify Setup" window
> appeared with the three options Modify, Repair and Uninstall to click. I
> assumed this was part of the final installation process and clicked Modify
> - it seemed to be successful. I still could not open python. I asked the AI
> and it suggested to click Repair, this still made no difference. I finally
> Uninstalled it, shut down my laptop, had a coffee then re-installed it but
> the same problem occurred.
> Can you help ? Any suggestions?
> I'm really pleased with the AI so far and looking forward to using Python
> to get my project started.
>
What do you mean by "open python"? You said that a "Modify Setup" window
appeared, which sounds like you're clicking on the *installer*.

To make it clear, the file that you download from python.org is the
installer. It installs Python only. It's not an IDE.

Having said that, the standard distribution from python.org does come
with IDLE.

You should be running PyCharm that you installed; that's the IDE. You
just need to ensure that it's using the version of Python that you've
installed.
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Re: Fwd: Problems Installing and getting started. [ In reply to ]
On Wed, 31 May 2023 08:34:48 +0100, Mark Bass <markbass649@gmail.com>
declaimed the following:

>---------- Forwarded message ---------
>From: Mark Bass <markbass649@gmail.com>
>Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 at 08:09
>Subject: Problems Installing and getting started.
>To: <python-list@python.org>
>
>
>Good morning,
>
>I installed python several hours ago (from python.org), I then installed
>the IDE PyCharm. I'm using AI to help with a project that requires
>statistical analysis.
>I cannot open python, when I double clicked a "Modify Setup" window
>appeared with the three options Modify, Repair and Uninstall to click. I
>assumed this was part of the final installation process and clicked Modify
>- it seemed to be successful. I still could not open python. I asked the AI
>and it suggested to click Repair, this still made no difference. I finally
>Uninstalled it, shut down my laptop, had a coffee then re-installed it but
>the same problem occurred.
>Can you help ? Any suggestions?
>I'm really pleased with the AI so far and looking forward to using Python
>to get my project started.
>Best Regards.....Mark

You are RERUNNING the Python installer package.

Once you installed Python -- move that installer package to some
safe/obscure location on your computer (you should only need it if you
really need to fix an error with the installation).

Python does not provide, normally, a "click me" icon to run Python.
Python is a command line language INTERPRETER/COMPILER. If file
associations are set up, clicking on a script (.py) file /will/ run it --
but the window it opens goes away as soon as the script completes. Instead
one opens a command shell window and runs Python/scripts from that
window...

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19045.2965]
(c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Owner>python
Python 3.10.11 (tags/v3.10.11:7d4cc5a, Apr 5 2023, 00:38:17) [MSC v.1929
64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>

C:\Users\Owner>dir *.py
Volume in drive C is Sys_OS
Volume Serial Number is B650-6F92

Directory of C:\Users\Owner

04/15/2023 04:57 PM 50 junk.py
1 File(s) 50 bytes
0 Dir(s) 1,884,894,617,600 bytes free

C:\Users\Owner>python junk.py
2 4 6 8 10 12
C:\Users\Owner>junk.py
2 4 6 8 10 12
C:\Users\Owner>

Note: depending upon your environment, neither file associates nor
Python may be set up on the path. You may have a "py" command that is set
up to find and run Python (and allow specifying which version if you have
multiple versions (in different directories). Also, you may be affected by
whether Python was installed for "all users" or just the account that did
the install.
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Re: Fwd: Problems Installing and getting started. [ In reply to ]
On 5/31/2023 3:52 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> Python does not provide, normally, a "click me" icon to run Python.
> Python is a command line language INTERPRETER/COMPILER. If file
> associations are set up, clicking on a script (.py) file/will/ run it --
> but the window it opens goes away as soon as the script completes. Instead
> one opens a command shell window and runs Python/scripts from that
> window...
>
> Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19045.2965]
> (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> C:\Users\Owner>python
> Python 3.10.11 (tags/v3.10.11:7d4cc5a, Apr 5 2023, 00:38:17) [MSC v.1929
> 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

On Windows, typing "python" may or may not give the expected version
depending in what has been installed before. With the python.org
installation, it's better to type "py" instead (this is Windows only).

For example, on my Windows 10 computer"

python
Python 3.9.9 (tags/v3.9.9:ccb0e6a, Nov 15 2021, 18:08:50) [MSC v.1929 64
bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>

but -

py
Python 3.11.3 (tags/v3.11.3:f3909b8, Apr 4 2023, 23:49:59) [MSC v.1934
64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>

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