Mailing List Archive: PSC #144 2024-04-11

PSC #144 2024-04-11

Apr 11, 2024, 8:59 AM

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The three of us met, and:

* merged the deëxperiment PR
* agreed we should additionally discuss if the now-stable features
(`try`, `extra_paired_delimiters`) should be included in the :5.40
feature bundle
* reported feedback from PPC implementors, which can be summarized as “life
happened, will get back to work soon”
* continued to triage latest reported bugs and look for release
blockers (Currently we have 8 potential blockers, though 2 are easy
documentation fixes)

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Re: PSC #144 2024-04-11 [ In reply to ]

leonerd at leonerd

Apr 11, 2024, 10:18 AM

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On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:59:23 +0200
"Philippe Bruhat (BooK)" <book@cpan.org> wrote:

> The three of us met, and:
>
> * merged the deëxperiment PR
> * agreed we should additionally discuss if the now-stable features
> (`try`, `extra_paired_delimiters`) should be included in the :5.40
> feature bundle

Still open to discussion, and I for one am not 100% convinced it's a
good idea at this late stage, but here anyway is a PR to do it so at
least we can discuss it:

https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/22141

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Re: PSC #144 2024-04-11 [ In reply to ]

rwp.primary at gmail

Apr 11, 2024, 5:43 PM

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> at this late stage

I think this kind of thinking can hinder the more valuable progress with
the language.

Why wait another year to get those features by default with "use 5.42" now
that they're *stable* and ready?

Not many users are interested in development stages and see much value in
rigid code freezes; we want features and we want them now (ie. as soon as
they ripe and become consumable) ????

Thanks for the great work with new those!

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, 7:18?PM Paul "LeoNerd" Evans <leonerd@leonerd.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:59:23 +0200
> "Philippe Bruhat (BooK)" <book@cpan.org> wrote:
>
> > The three of us met, and:
> >
> > * merged the deëxperiment PR
> > * agreed we should additionally discuss if the now-stable features
> > (`try`, `extra_paired_delimiters`) should be included in the :5.40
> > feature bundle
>
> Still open to discussion, and I for one am not 100% convinced it's a
> good idea at this late stage, but here anyway is a PR to do it so at
> least we can discuss it:
>
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/22141
>
> --
> Paul "LeoNerd" Evans
>
> leonerd@leonerd.org.uk | https://metacpan.org/author/PEVANS
> http://www.leonerd.org.uk/ | https://www.tindie.com/stores/leonerd/
>

Re: PSC #144 2024-04-11 [ In reply to ]

leonerd at leonerd

Apr 16, 2024, 4:26 AM

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On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 18:18:30 +0100
"Paul \"LeoNerd\" Evans" <leonerd@leonerd.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:59:23 +0200
> "Philippe Bruhat (BooK)" <book@cpan.org> wrote:
>
> > The three of us met, and:
> >
> > * merged the deëxperiment PR
> > * agreed we should additionally discuss if the now-stable features
> > (`try`, `extra_paired_delimiters`) should be included in the :5.40
> > feature bundle
>
> Still open to discussion, and I for one am not 100% convinced it's a
> good idea at this late stage, but here anyway is a PR to do it so at
> least we can discuss it:
>
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/22141

This seemed oddly agreeable to everyone, so that's now been merged.

$ ./perl -Ilib -Mutf8 -E 'try { say q«Hello, world»; } catch($e) {}'
Hello, world

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