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Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?
The release page says Ocata is planned to go into extended maintenance
mode on Aug 27 [1]. There really isn't much to this except it means we
don't do releases for Ocata anymore [2]. There is a caveat that project
teams that do not wish to maintain stable/ocata after this point can
immediately end of life the branch for their project [3]. We can still
run CI using tags, e.g. if keystone goes ocata-eol, devstack on
stable/ocata can still continue to install from stable/ocata for nova
and the ocata-eol tag for keystone. Having said that, if there is no
undue burden on the project team keeping the lights on for stable/ocata,
I would recommend not tagging the stable/ocata branch end of life at
this point.

So, questions that need answering are:

1. Should we cut a final release for projects with stable/ocata branches
before going into extended maintenance mode? I tend to think "yes" to
flush the queue of backports. In fact, [3] doesn't mention it, but the
resolution said we'd tag the branch [4] to indicate it has entered the
EM phase.

2. Are there any projects that would want to skip EM and go directly to
EOL (yes this feels like a Monopoly question)?

[1] https://releases.openstack.org/
[2]
https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintenance-phases
[3]
https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#extended-maintenance
[4]
https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html#end-of-life

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Thanks,

Matt

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Re: [Openstack-sigs] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode? [ In reply to ]
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 02:27:03PM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> The release page says Ocata is planned to go into extended maintenance mode
> on Aug 27 [1]. There really isn't much to this except it means we don't do
> releases for Ocata anymore [2]. There is a caveat that project teams that do
> not wish to maintain stable/ocata after this point can immediately end of
> life the branch for their project [3]. We can still run CI using tags, e.g.
> if keystone goes ocata-eol, devstack on stable/ocata can still continue to
> install from stable/ocata for nova and the ocata-eol tag for keystone.
> Having said that, if there is no undue burden on the project team keeping
> the lights on for stable/ocata, I would recommend not tagging the
> stable/ocata branch end of life at this point.
>
> So, questions that need answering are:
>
> 1. Should we cut a final release for projects with stable/ocata branches
> before going into extended maintenance mode? I tend to think "yes" to flush
> the queue of backports. In fact, [3] doesn't mention it, but the resolution
> said we'd tag the branch [4] to indicate it has entered the EM phase.
>
> 2. Are there any projects that would want to skip EM and go directly to EOL
> (yes this feels like a Monopoly question)?
>
> [1] https://releases.openstack.org/
> [2] https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintenance-phases
> [3] https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#extended-maintenance
> [4] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html#end-of-life
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt

I have a patch that's been pending for marking it as extended maintenance:

https://review.openstack.org/#/c/598164/

That's just the state for Ocata. You raise some other good points here that I
am curious to see input on.

Sean


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Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode? [ In reply to ]
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Matt Riedemann <mriedemos@gmail.com> wrote:
> The release page says Ocata is planned to go into extended maintenance mode
> on Aug 27 [1]. There really isn't much to this except it means we don't do
> releases for Ocata anymore [2]. There is a caveat that project teams that do
> not wish to maintain stable/ocata after this point can immediately end of
> life the branch for their project [3]. We can still run CI using tags, e.g.
> if keystone goes ocata-eol, devstack on stable/ocata can still continue to
> install from stable/ocata for nova and the ocata-eol tag for keystone.
> Having said that, if there is no undue burden on the project team keeping
> the lights on for stable/ocata, I would recommend not tagging the
> stable/ocata branch end of life at this point.
>
> So, questions that need answering are:
>
> 1. Should we cut a final release for projects with stable/ocata branches
> before going into extended maintenance mode? I tend to think "yes" to flush
> the queue of backports. In fact, [3] doesn't mention it, but the resolution
> said we'd tag the branch [4] to indicate it has entered the EM phase.
>
> 2. Are there any projects that would want to skip EM and go directly to EOL
> (yes this feels like a Monopoly question)?
>

I believe TripleO would like to EOL instead of EM for Ocata as
indicated by the thead
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134671.html

Thanks,
-Alex

> [1] https://releases.openstack.org/
> [2]
> https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintenance-phases
> [3]
> https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#extended-maintenance
> [4]
> https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html#end-of-life
>
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
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