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I second Lloyd's comment. We've been running a very popular OpenStack
Bootcamp program and have delivered 20+ private and public OpenStack classes
during the last 6 months. We've been asked on many occasions about OpenStack
certification, but have purposely deferred this, stating that it is a
prerogative of the foundation to accredit a certification program.



I'd like to propose that we form an OpenStack training / certification
committee comprised of folks passionate about getting the formal training
and certification program underway.



Naturally, I volunteer to chair that committee and help spearhead the
initiative. I suppose Tristan and folks from RackSpace, Piston and Hastexo
(who already run trainings) would make good committee members as well. We
can discuss the details during the upcoming board meeting on Monday.



What does everybody think?



From: Lloyd Dewolf [mailto:lloydostack@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:58 PM
To: Tristan Goode
Cc: foundation@lists.openstack.org; foundation-board@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [Foundation Board] OpenStack syllabi -was- Re: [OpenStack
Foundation] Use of the word "certified" and protecting brand OpenStack



On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Tristan Goode <tristan@aptira.com> wrote:



Leaving Rackspace's actions aside, I made a suggestion for a certification
process for training materials and deliverables that they be offered to a
community sourced committee for review and approval. If this proposal is
accepted then I would ask Rackspace that they offer up their course
materials for this review, and that this might form a baseline for
establishing the certification benchmark.



I'm interested in collaborating on OpenStack course work.



We've done training for our customers on Piston Enterprise OpenStack, and
the European participants particularly have wanted certification. I've been
eager to work on this for many months. I've just waiting for the Foundation
to get it's legs under it.



Near the start of my career I found the lpi.org first course and test helped
boost my Linux skill set. The experience encouraged me to play a small role
in the IBM team developing a version of the certification testing for IBM
DB2 back in the day.



I'd like to contribute to developing common OpenStack syllabi.





Thank you,

--
@lloyddewolf
http://www.pistoncloud.com/

Hi Boris,

What do I think? I think you sent this email twice!

Either way, I think its a good idea. I support it and hope to host some
OpenStack training classes in the Silicon Valley Cloud Center.

Best,
Dave

Dave Nielsen
Co-founder: CloudCamp
Founder: Silicon Valley Cloud Center
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Boris Renski Jr. <b@renski.com> wrote:

> I second Lloyd’s comment. We’ve been running a very popular OpenStack
> Bootcamp program and have delivered 20+ private and public OpenStack
> classes during the last 6 months. We’ve been asked on many occasions about
> OpenStack certification, but have purposely deferred this, stating that it
> is a prerogative of the foundation to accredit a certification program. **
> **
>
> ** **
>
> I’d like to propose that we form an OpenStack training / certification
> committee comprised of folks passionate about getting the formal training
> and certification program underway. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Naturally, I volunteer to chair that committee and help spearhead the
> initiative. I suppose Tristan and folks from RackSpace, Piston and Hastexo
> (who already run trainings) would make good committee members as well. We
> can discuss the details during the upcoming board meeting on Monday. ****
>
> ** **
>
> What does everybody think? ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* Lloyd Dewolf [mailto:lloydostack@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:58 PM
> *To:* Tristan Goode
> *Cc:* foundation@lists.openstack.org; foundation-board@lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* [Foundation Board] OpenStack syllabi -was- Re: [OpenStack
> Foundation] Use of the word "certified" and protecting brand OpenStack****
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Tristan Goode <tristan@aptira.com> wrote:
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Leaving Rackspace’s actions aside, I made a suggestion for a certification
> process for training materials and deliverables that they be offered to a
> community sourced committee for review and approval. If this proposal is
> accepted then I would ask Rackspace that they offer up their course
> materials for this review, and that this might form a baseline for
> establishing the certification benchmark.****
>
> ** **
>
> I'm interested in collaborating on OpenStack course work.****
>
> ** **
>
> We've done training for our customers on Piston Enterprise OpenStack, and
> the European participants particularly have wanted certification. I've been
> eager to work on this for many months. I've just waiting for the Foundation
> to get it's legs under it.****
>
> ** **
>
> Near the start of my career I found the lpi.org first course and test
> helped boost my Linux skill set. The experience encouraged me to play a
> small role in the IBM team developing a version of the
> certification testing for IBM DB2 back in the day.****
>
> ** **
>
> I'd like to contribute to developing common OpenStack syllabi.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you,****
>
> --
> @lloyddewolf
> http://www.pistoncloud.com/****
>
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>
>

Hi all -

As you might imagine, documentation and training can go hand in hand.
I've had to focus on docs, which is fine by me, but would like to see
some collaboration between the open documentation process and training
processes.

For example, just this week I had a professor email me and ask if I
knew of lab exercises. These aren't specifically marked as such or
designed in the documentation, but I'm sure as people made their lab
exercises they borrowed from the Documentation (which licensing
enables). To help out this professor, I sent him a list of links to
the documentation that could serve students in a training lab.

Also consider that the documentation has a translation process in
place now. Learn more at
http://openstacksummitfall2012.sched.org/event/d23f40c005f8e19becd11389123730f9#.UHg5f1SEP81.

Please do keep me in the loop as you move forward as I'm quite interested.

Thanks,
Anne

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Dave Nielsen <dnielsen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Boris,
>
> What do I think? I think you sent this email twice!

To be fair, once Boris was "Jr." once he was not. :)

> Either way, I think its a good idea. I support it and hope to host some
> OpenStack training classes in the Silicon Valley Cloud Center.
>
> Best,
> Dave
>
> Dave Nielsen
> Co-founder: CloudCamp
> Founder: Silicon Valley Cloud Center
> twitter davenielsen; linkedin dnielsen; fb: dcnielsen
> skype davenielsen; gtalk dnielsen; mobile: 415-531-6674
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Boris Renski Jr. <b@renski.com> wrote:
>>
>> I second Lloyd’s comment. We’ve been running a very popular OpenStack
>> Bootcamp program and have delivered 20+ private and public OpenStack classes
>> during the last 6 months. We’ve been asked on many occasions about OpenStack
>> certification, but have purposely deferred this, stating that it is a
>> prerogative of the foundation to accredit a certification program.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d like to propose that we form an OpenStack training / certification
>> committee comprised of folks passionate about getting the formal training
>> and certification program underway.
>>
>>
>>
>> Naturally, I volunteer to chair that committee and help spearhead the
>> initiative. I suppose Tristan and folks from RackSpace, Piston and Hastexo
>> (who already run trainings) would make good committee members as well. We
>> can discuss the details during the upcoming board meeting on Monday.
>>
>>
>>
>> What does everybody think?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Lloyd Dewolf [mailto:lloydostack@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:58 PM
>> To: Tristan Goode
>> Cc: foundation@lists.openstack.org; foundation-board@lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: [Foundation Board] OpenStack syllabi -was- Re: [OpenStack
>> Foundation] Use of the word "certified" and protecting brand OpenStack
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Tristan Goode <tristan@aptira.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Leaving Rackspace’s actions aside, I made a suggestion for a certification
>> process for training materials and deliverables that they be offered to a
>> community sourced committee for review and approval. If this proposal is
>> accepted then I would ask Rackspace that they offer up their course
>> materials for this review, and that this might form a baseline for
>> establishing the certification benchmark.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm interested in collaborating on OpenStack course work.
>>
>>
>>
>> We've done training for our customers on Piston Enterprise OpenStack, and
>> the European participants particularly have wanted certification. I've been
>> eager to work on this for many months. I've just waiting for the Foundation
>> to get it's legs under it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Near the start of my career I found the lpi.org first course and test
>> helped boost my Linux skill set. The experience encouraged me to play a
>> small role in the IBM team developing a version of the certification testing
>> for IBM DB2 back in the day.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to contribute to developing common OpenStack syllabi.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> --
>> @lloyddewolf
>> http://www.pistoncloud.com/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Foundation mailing list
>> Foundation@lists.openstack.org
>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Boris this is exactly what we need to do and what I was looking towards by suggesting a panel in my first post, and I would be happy to be part of that.

Lloyd it's fantastic to hear you are keen to take part.

I'm looking forward to seeing how this develops from Monday's Board meeting.



From: Boris Renski [mailto:brenski@mirantis.com]
Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012 1:57 AM
To: 'Lloyd Dewolf'; 'Tristan Goode'
Cc: foundation@lists.openstack.org; foundation-board@lists.openstack.org
Subject: RE: [Foundation Board] OpenStack syllabi -was- Re: [OpenStack Foundation] Use of the word "certified" and protecting brand OpenStack

I second Lloyd's comment. We've been running a very popular OpenStack Bootcamp program and have delivered 20+ private and public OpenStack classes during the last 6 months. We've been asked on many occasions about OpenStack certification, but have purposely deferred this, stating that it is a prerogative of the foundation to accredit a certification program.

I'd like to propose that we form an OpenStack training / certification committee comprised of folks passionate about getting the formal training and certification program underway.

Naturally, I volunteer to chair that committee and help spearhead the initiative. I suppose Tristan and folks from RackSpace, Piston and Hastexo (who already run trainings) would make good committee members as well. We can discuss the details during the upcoming board meeting on Monday.

What does everybody think?

From: Lloyd Dewolf [mailto:lloydostack@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:58 PM
To: Tristan Goode
Cc: foundation@lists.openstack.org; foundation-board@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [Foundation Board] OpenStack syllabi -was- Re: [OpenStack Foundation] Use of the word "certified" and protecting brand OpenStack

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Tristan Goode <tristan@aptira.com> wrote:

Leaving Rackspace's actions aside, I made a suggestion for a certification process for training materials and deliverables that they be offered to a community sourced committee for review and approval. If this proposal is accepted then I would ask Rackspace that they offer up their course materials for this review, and that this might form a baseline for establishing the certification benchmark.

I'm interested in collaborating on OpenStack course work.

We've done training for our customers on Piston Enterprise OpenStack, and the European participants particularly have wanted certification. I've been eager to work on this for many months. I've just waiting for the Foundation to get it's legs under it.

Near the start of my career I found the lpi.org first course and test helped boost my Linux skill set. The experience encouraged me to play a small role in the IBM team developing a version of the certification testing for IBM DB2 back in the day.

I'd like to contribute to developing common OpenStack syllabi.


Thank you,
--
@lloyddewolf
http://www.pistoncloud.com/

Great point Anne, Documentation and training certainly do go hand in hand. Perhaps there is a person(s) sitting on both training and documentation teams?

Cheers
Tristan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne Gentle [mailto:anne@openstack.org]
> Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012 2:44 AM
> To: Dave Nielsen
> Cc: foundation@lists.openstack.org; foundation-board@lists.openstack.org; Boris
> Renski Jr.
> Subject: Re: [Foundation Board] [OpenStack Foundation] OpenStack syllabi -was-
> Re: Use of the word "certified" and protecting brand OpenStack
>
> Hi all -
>
> As you might imagine, documentation and training can go hand in hand.
> I've had to focus on docs, which is fine by me, but would like to see some
> collaboration between the open documentation process and training processes.
>
> For example, just this week I had a professor email me and ask if I knew of lab
> exercises. These aren't specifically marked as such or designed in the
> documentation, but I'm sure as people made their lab exercises they borrowed from
> the Documentation (which licensing enables). To help out this professor, I sent him a
> list of links to the documentation that could serve students in a training lab.
>
> Also consider that the documentation has a translation process in place now. Learn
> more at
> http://openstacksummitfall2012.sched.org/event/d23f40c005f8e19becd11389123730
> f9#.UHg5f1SEP81.
>
> Please do keep me in the loop as you move forward as I'm quite interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Anne
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Dave Nielsen <dnielsen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Boris,
> >
> > What do I think? I think you sent this email twice!
>
> To be fair, once Boris was "Jr." once he was not. :)
>
> > Either way, I think its a good idea. I support it and hope to host
> > some OpenStack training classes in the Silicon Valley Cloud Center.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dave
> >
> > Dave Nielsen
> > Co-founder: CloudCamp
> > Founder: Silicon Valley Cloud Center
> > twitter davenielsen; linkedin dnielsen; fb: dcnielsen skype
> > davenielsen; gtalk dnielsen; mobile: 415-531-6674
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Boris Renski Jr. <b@renski.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I second Lloyd's comment. We've been running a very popular OpenStack
> >> Bootcamp program and have delivered 20+ private and public OpenStack
> >> classes during the last 6 months. We've been asked on many occasions
> >> about OpenStack certification, but have purposely deferred this,
> >> stating that it is a prerogative of the foundation to accredit a certification
> program.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd like to propose that we form an OpenStack training /
> >> certification committee comprised of folks passionate about getting
> >> the formal training and certification program underway.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Naturally, I volunteer to chair that committee and help spearhead the
> >> initiative. I suppose Tristan and folks from RackSpace, Piston and
> >> Hastexo (who already run trainings) would make good committee members
> >> as well. We can discuss the details during the upcoming board meeting on
> Monday.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What does everybody think?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Lloyd Dewolf [mailto:lloydostack@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:58 PM
> >> To: Tristan Goode
> >> Cc: foundation@lists.openstack.org;
> >> foundation-board@lists.openstack.org
> >> Subject: [Foundation Board] OpenStack syllabi -was- Re: [OpenStack
> >> Foundation] Use of the word "certified" and protecting brand
> >> OpenStack
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Tristan Goode <tristan@aptira.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Leaving Rackspace's actions aside, I made a suggestion for a
> >> certification process for training materials and deliverables that
> >> they be offered to a community sourced committee for review and
> >> approval. If this proposal is accepted then I would ask Rackspace
> >> that they offer up their course materials for this review, and that
> >> this might form a baseline for establishing the certification benchmark.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm interested in collaborating on OpenStack course work.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We've done training for our customers on Piston Enterprise OpenStack,
> >> and the European participants particularly have wanted certification.
> >> I've been eager to work on this for many months. I've just waiting
> >> for the Foundation to get it's legs under it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Near the start of my career I found the lpi.org first course and test
> >> helped boost my Linux skill set. The experience encouraged me to play
> >> a small role in the IBM team developing a version of the
> >> certification testing for IBM DB2 back in the day.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd like to contribute to developing common OpenStack syllabi.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> --
> >> @lloyddewolf
> >> http://www.pistoncloud.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Foundation mailing list
> >> Foundation@lists.openstack.org
> >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
> >
>
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Boris Renski Jr. <b@renski.com> wrote:

> I second Lloyd’s comment. We’ve been running a very popular OpenStack
> Bootcamp program and have delivered 20+ private and public OpenStack
> classes during the last 6 months. We’ve been asked on many occasions about
> OpenStack certification, but have purposely deferred this, stating that it
> is a prerogative of the foundation to accredit a certification program. **
> **
>
> ** **
>
> I’d like to propose that we form an OpenStack training / certification
> committee comprised of folks passionate about getting the formal training
> and certification program underway. ****
>
> **
>
[Deepak] +1
If the Foundation states the standards of the Certification and define the
different levels of the certification, it will be nice.
This will also act as quality control as I see some people with no
OpenStack experience to offer training programs with course contents of
essentially zero value addition but since there is demand in the market, so
it works out well for them.



--

Deepak Garg,

Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit




> **
>
> Naturally, I volunteer to chair that committee and help spearhead the
> initiative. I suppose Tristan and folks from RackSpace, Piston and Hastexo
> (who already run trainings) would make good committee members as well. We
> can discuss the details during the upcoming board meeting on Monday. ****
>
> ** **
>
> What does everybody think? ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* Lloyd Dewolf [mailto:lloydostack@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:58 PM
> *To:* Tristan Goode
> *Cc:* foundation@lists.openstack.org; foundation-board@lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* [Foundation Board] OpenStack syllabi -was- Re: [OpenStack
> Foundation] Use of the word "certified" and protecting brand OpenStack****
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Tristan Goode <tristan@aptira.com> wrote:
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Leaving Rackspace’s actions aside, I made a suggestion for a certification
> process for training materials and deliverables that they be offered to a
> community sourced committee for review and approval. If this proposal is
> accepted then I would ask Rackspace that they offer up their course
> materials for this review, and that this might form a baseline for
> establishing the certification benchmark.****
>
> ** **
>
> I'm interested in collaborating on OpenStack course work.****
>
> ** **
>
> We've done training for our customers on Piston Enterprise OpenStack, and
> the European participants particularly have wanted certification. I've been
> eager to work on this for many months. I've just waiting for the Foundation
> to get it's legs under it.****
>
> ** **
>
> Near the start of my career I found the lpi.org first course and test
> helped boost my Linux skill set. The experience encouraged me to play a
> small role in the IBM team developing a version of the
> certification testing for IBM DB2 back in the day.****
>
> ** **
>
> I'd like to contribute to developing common OpenStack syllabi.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you,****
>
> --
> @lloyddewolf
> http://www.pistoncloud.com/****
>
> _______________________________________________
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>