???? All good, when I looked back at the email it does look somewhat disingenuous, I should have really put, here is his details if the OP wants them.
From: Ben Cox <ben@benjojo.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 10:07 AM
To: Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz>
Cc: Ben Cox <ben@benjojo.co.uk>; North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} RE: IPv4 address block
Ah, apologies on my part Tony, it did look at lot like a signature block and thus a amusing sock puppet SNAFU
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 20:54 Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz <mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz> > wrote:
No, Eddies is NOT me, I included his details to be helpful to the OP….
From: Ben Cox <ben@benjojo.co.uk <mailto:ben@benjojo.co.uk> >
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 9:27 AM
To: Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz <mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz> >
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org> >
Subject: Re: IPv4 address block
Hey Tony/Eddie
I think your choice of email signature may have given away the game a little bit here
Regards
Ben Cartwright-Cox
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 20:00 Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz <mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz> > wrote:
I have used Eddie at iptrading several times over the yearsfor IP block purchases and never had this sort of issue, so would count this as a recommendation.
Regards,
Eddie Stauble
eddie@iptrading.com <mailto:eddie@iptrading.com>
855-IPTRADE (855-478-7233) Ext 107 Direct: 754-227-8423
<https://iptrading.com/> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+tony=wicks.co.nz@nanog.org> On Behalf Of John Curran
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 7:46 PM
To: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: IPv4 address block
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "iptrading.com" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "iptrading.com" claiming to be On Jan 7, 2024, at 9:04?PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> I might note that one of the qualified facilitators on the list recently "sold" me a block where the original entity which obtained it in the 1990s was still announcing it to all of their peers and trantsi after the wire transfer had been done, the ARIN process was done/ticket closed, and the block resided with my AS.
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "iptrading.com" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "iptrading.com" claiming to be Interesting. If you believe that the qualified facilitator failed in their duty to you (more specifically, if they did not live up to an aspect of the code of conduct – https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/facilitators/codeofconduct/) then please drop ARIN a message with the specifics to facilitator-support@arin.net
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> It took a significant amount of badgering the original block holder (an entity with which we had no pre-existing relationship or direct contacts into their engineering department) to get them to withdraw the announcement, which we did independently of the broker and quicker than they responded to us. So my message would be to do your own due diligence and investigation of IP space and don't trust what the "broker" tells you.
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> Absolutely - always a good idea.
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> Thanks for feedback!
<https://iptrading.com/> /John
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> John Curran
<https://iptrading.com/> President and CEO
<https://iptrading.com/> American Registry for Internet Numbers
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/>
From: Ben Cox <ben@benjojo.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 10:07 AM
To: Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz>
Cc: Ben Cox <ben@benjojo.co.uk>; North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} RE: IPv4 address block
Ah, apologies on my part Tony, it did look at lot like a signature block and thus a amusing sock puppet SNAFU
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 20:54 Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz <mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz> > wrote:
No, Eddies is NOT me, I included his details to be helpful to the OP….
From: Ben Cox <ben@benjojo.co.uk <mailto:ben@benjojo.co.uk> >
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 9:27 AM
To: Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz <mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz> >
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org> >
Subject: Re: IPv4 address block
Hey Tony/Eddie
I think your choice of email signature may have given away the game a little bit here
Regards
Ben Cartwright-Cox
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 20:00 Tony Wicks <tony@wicks.co.nz <mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz> > wrote:
I have used Eddie at iptrading several times over the yearsfor IP block purchases and never had this sort of issue, so would count this as a recommendation.
Regards,
Eddie Stauble
eddie@iptrading.com <mailto:eddie@iptrading.com>
855-IPTRADE (855-478-7233) Ext 107 Direct: 754-227-8423
<https://iptrading.com/> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+tony=wicks.co.nz@nanog.org> On Behalf Of John Curran
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 7:46 PM
To: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: IPv4 address block
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "iptrading.com" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "iptrading.com" claiming to be On Jan 7, 2024, at 9:04?PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> I might note that one of the qualified facilitators on the list recently "sold" me a block where the original entity which obtained it in the 1990s was still announcing it to all of their peers and trantsi after the wire transfer had been done, the ARIN process was done/ticket closed, and the block resided with my AS.
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "iptrading.com" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "iptrading.com" claiming to be Interesting. If you believe that the qualified facilitator failed in their duty to you (more specifically, if they did not live up to an aspect of the code of conduct – https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/facilitators/codeofconduct/) then please drop ARIN a message with the specifics to facilitator-support@arin.net
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> It took a significant amount of badgering the original block holder (an entity with which we had no pre-existing relationship or direct contacts into their engineering department) to get them to withdraw the announcement, which we did independently of the broker and quicker than they responded to us. So my message would be to do your own due diligence and investigation of IP space and don't trust what the "broker" tells you.
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> Absolutely - always a good idea.
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> Thanks for feedback!
<https://iptrading.com/> /John
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/> John Curran
<https://iptrading.com/> President and CEO
<https://iptrading.com/> American Registry for Internet Numbers
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/>
<https://iptrading.com/>