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Fwd: #127669/C (1site) appl:A site in Germany reports routing proble...
The end of this issue - last post by me anyhow. Seems to be a
bandwidth issue on a segment of the BBN-Planet network.

--Tim

---Internet Operations Center <ops@bbnplanet.com> wrote:
>
> Ticket Number: 127669 Ticket Status: closed
> Ticket Type: unplanned/e2e Scope/Source: 1site/email
> Ticket Closer: jhickey Problem Fixer: none
> Ticket Opened: 07-15-1997 14:32 GMT Problem Started: 07-15-1997
14:32 GMT
> Ticket Closed: 07-16-1997 01:14 GMT Problem Ended: 07-15-1997
14:32 GMT
>
> Close Code: ucp
>
> Svc/Site ID #: 178044
> Svc/Site Name: appl
>
> Description:
>
> A site in Germany reports routing problems resulting in
difficulties
> reaching www.apple.com.
>
> Coming from either 194.97.200.30 or 195.254.23.1 and going to
> www.apple.com traces seem to be delayed around paloalto. Winfried
Haug from
> the source reports their AS is 5549 and the first Net is announces
as a /16
> from their former upstream, they have 194.97.192.0/18. The
second block
> has no super-route, but is splitted between themselves and another
ISP, they
> have 195.254.0.0/17. Traces attached.
>
> Resolution:
>
> Per neteng this issue is directly related to the saturated T3 from
paloalto
> to decwrl (PAIX). However (also per neteng) there is nothing to be
done at
> this time about offloading any of this traffic and thus no
resolution to the
> observed issue until the OC3 is delivered.
>
>
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Re: Fwd: #127669/C (1site) appl:A site in Germany reports routing proble... [ In reply to ]
> The end of this issue - last post by me anyhow. Seems to be a
> bandwidth issue on a segment of the BBN-Planet network.

I'm not sure if their theory is correct. Routing to www.apple.com
from EUnet/UUNET and from carpeNet/Nacamar both go through the
same Palo Alto link, but look at this ping -c 20 -q www.apple.com ..

* via EUnet/UUNET
--- www.apple.com ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 13 packets received, 35% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 2645.188/2724.840/3156.298 ms

* via carpeNet/Nacamar
--- www.apple.com ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 20 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 155.404/180.195/249.367 ms

The above was yesterday after I saw the report. The guy at seicom.net
who posted the original problem is also going via UUNET in Frankfurt
(same as EUnet).

Cheers,
Ray
Re: Fwd: #127669/C (1site) appl:A site in Germany reports routing proble... [ In reply to ]
On Jul 16, 17:11, Ray Davis <ray@carpe.net> wrote:
> * via EUnet/UUNET
> --- www.apple.com ping statistics ---
> 20 packets transmitted, 13 packets received, 35% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max = 2645.188/2724.840/3156.298 ms

You are actually here talking about EUnet Germany, not EUnet as
such; see

http://www.usa.uu.net/press/eunet.html

for details about that issue. See

http://www.EU.net

for information about EUnet (yes, I know it's confusing, one of
these historical things).

This is what things look like from here; Xlink in Germany will look
pretty much the same (yes, getting really peppered now).

jotun.EU.net% trc www.apple.com
traceroute to www.apple.com (17.254.3.35), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 Amsterdam7.NL.EU.net (193.242.90.1) 4 ms 4 ms 3 ms
2 Amsterdam5.NL.EU.net (134.222.187.5) 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms
3 Pennsauken1.NJ.US.EU.net (134.222.228.34) 88 ms 88 ms 87 ms
4 Vienna2.VA.US.EU.net (134.222.228.1) 92 ms 90 ms 95 ms
5 San-Jose1.CA.US.EU.net (134.222.228.106) 147 ms 151 ms 148 ms
6 sanjose1-br1.bbnplanet.net (198.32.184.19) 150 ms 150 ms 148 ms
7 paloalto-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.10) 149 ms 153 ms 149 ms
8 paloalto-cr4.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.148) 154 ms 152 ms 149 ms
9 appl.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.30) 165 ms 157 ms 155 ms
10 ton.apple.com (205.180.175.30) 161 ms 155 ms 159 ms
11 A17-254-3-35.apple.com (17.254.3.35) 168 ms 151 ms 156 ms
jotun.EU.net%

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