On Sun, May 04, 1997 at 01:32:05PM -0700, Geoffrey Waigh wrote:
> Karl Denninger [SMTP:karl@Mcs.Net] wrote around Sunday, May 04, 1997 12:57 PM
> (in some timezone, my mail client is useless):
> >
> >As long as the Internet's cache files on each and every system out there
> >point at "a" in their file, there is the potential to break the namespace.
> >
> >One rogue server in a confederation will cause serious problems.
> >
> >NSI has defacto control, because getting them out of the cache files is a
> >long and slow process, and until they ARE out their answers will be
> >believed.
>
> That's one of the nice things about widespread backing of the IAHC plan
> by the big players. It wouldn't be hard for them to blackhole the cached
> rogue servers and thus cut them out of the loop. No doubt Karl will
> invoke lawyers at this, but while people are running around seeking
> injunctions to support their own lawlessness, the net keeps running.
> I would think that network operators could argue this is no different from
> filtering out rogue routes coming in from a subverted BGP peer.
>
> Geoffrey
>
You're talking about blackholing the routes, or the nameservers (ie: bogusns
lines)?
Blackholing the routes would be, IMHO a serious legal issue.
Bogusnsing the root would do nothing, since 40,000 people would have to do
it (and that simply won't happen).
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> Karl Denninger [SMTP:karl@Mcs.Net] wrote around Sunday, May 04, 1997 12:57 PM
> (in some timezone, my mail client is useless):
> >
> >As long as the Internet's cache files on each and every system out there
> >point at "a" in their file, there is the potential to break the namespace.
> >
> >One rogue server in a confederation will cause serious problems.
> >
> >NSI has defacto control, because getting them out of the cache files is a
> >long and slow process, and until they ARE out their answers will be
> >believed.
>
> That's one of the nice things about widespread backing of the IAHC plan
> by the big players. It wouldn't be hard for them to blackhole the cached
> rogue servers and thus cut them out of the loop. No doubt Karl will
> invoke lawyers at this, but while people are running around seeking
> injunctions to support their own lawlessness, the net keeps running.
> I would think that network operators could argue this is no different from
> filtering out rogue routes coming in from a subverted BGP peer.
>
> Geoffrey
>
You're talking about blackholing the routes, or the nameservers (ie: bogusns
lines)?
Blackholing the routes would be, IMHO a serious legal issue.
Bogusnsing the root would do nothing, since 40,000 people would have to do
it (and that simply won't happen).
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