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I found this one in the uk, which fits will with my small black case, it
should work on linux (IR reciever plugs into PS/2 port) but I'm not sure
if it will interfere with an existing IR for remote control.
Also the price is a bit steep (79 pound sterling + 29 shipping to
mainland europe)

Gertjan Assies
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and those who don't.

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From: mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net] On Behalf Of Casper Pedersen
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:12 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse

Hi,

After getting up and runnng, and beeing very happy(except for the sound
only in right speaker problem), I would like to have a wireless
keyboard/mouse so that I don't have use telnet/ssh to modify my setup.

Where can one get one of these neat small keyboards with buildin mouse,
which is used for SetTop boxes in Hotels?

Regards/Casper

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http://www.digitalconnection.com/Products/Keyboard/sk7100.asp
here is a possibly better deal.

I/R keyboard with stick mouse. Received plugs into PS/2 ports for mouse
and keyboard (or into serial for mouse, if desired). It is also
compatible with several leading universal remote controls. Price is good
at USD$29.00 each, I got two of them. (The keyboard at this site will
arrive rebadged as Motorola, but the I/R receiver still says Lite-On)

-----Original Message-----
From: gertjan [mailto:gertjan@assies.nu]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:33 AM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse

http://www.keyboardco.com/KBC1525WTB_wireless_trackball_keyboard.htm

I found this one in the uk, which fits will with my small black case, it
should work on linux (IR reciever plugs into PS/2 port) but I'm not sure
if it will interfere with an existing IR for remote control.
Also the price is a bit steep (79 pound sterling + 29 shipping to
mainland europe)

Gertjan Assies
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those who understand binary,
and those who don't.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net] On Behalf Of Casper Pedersen
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:12 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse

Hi,

After getting up and runnng, and beeing very happy(except for the sound
only in right speaker problem), I would like to have a wireless
keyboard/mouse so that I don't have use telnet/ssh to modify my setup.

Where can one get one of these neat small keyboards with buildin mouse,
which is used for SetTop boxes in Hotels?

Regards/Casper

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Directron.com has a couple of nice little integrated mouse/keyboards
that are IR. I just ordered one
and it should be here today. Was $25.

gertjan wrote:

>http://www.keyboardco.com/KBC1525WTB_wireless_trackball_keyboard.htm
>
>I found this one in the uk, which fits will with my small black case, it
>should work on linux (IR reciever plugs into PS/2 port) but I'm not sure
>if it will interfere with an existing IR for remote control.
>Also the price is a bit steep (79 pound sterling + 29 shipping to
>mainland europe)
>
>Gertjan Assies
>There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those who understand binary,
>and those who don't.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net
>[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net] On Behalf Of Casper Pedersen
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:12 PM
>To: Discussion about mythtv
>Subject: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse
>
>Hi,
>
>After getting up and runnng, and beeing very happy(except for the sound
>only in right speaker problem), I would like to have a wireless
>keyboard/mouse so that I don't have use telnet/ssh to modify my setup.
>
>Where can one get one of these neat small keyboards with buildin mouse,
>which is used for SetTop boxes in Hotels?
>
>Regards/Casper
>
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Not sure specifically which keyboard/mouse they use in hotel set top boxes, but I have this one:

http://www.provantage.com/buy-22072162-micro-innovations-keyboards-ibm-navigator-pro-wireless-shopping.htm

(May need to copy and paste that link; it's a bit long.)

For around $50, this thing is pretty nice. I wouldn't want to use it for a desktop PC but it's pretty much perfect for a Myth box. Works fine under Linux with no additional drivers; the OS just sees it as a plain old PS/2 keyboard and mouse. Only thing that doesn't work is the quick-launch keys, but that's to be expected and is true of pretty much every other wireless keyboard with these sorts of extra keys under Linux.

The only two somewhat odd things about it (and every wireless kb has a few oddities) is the somewhat non-standard keyboard layout that honestly only takes about 5 minutes to get used to, and the fact that the size of the two "mouse" buttons is reversed - the left mouse button is smaller than the right. But it's not a big deal.

Lots of people swear by the Gyration mouse/keyboard combo but a) it's $100, and b) it's two separate pieces. I don't find that very efficient for using as what amounts to a large remote control. I like the IBM because it's got an integrated pointer, it's relatively small and light, it's built pretty well, and heck, it's an IBM.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Casper Pedersen [mailto:cpedersen@c-note.dk]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:12 AM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse
>
>
> Hi,
>
> After getting up and runnng, and beeing very happy(except for
> the sound
> only in right speaker problem), I would like to have a wireless
> keyboard/mouse so that I don't have use telnet/ssh to modify my setup.
>
> Where can one get one of these neat small keyboards with
> buildin mouse,
> which is used for SetTop boxes in Hotels?
>
> Regards/Casper
>
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Heh. I paid $13 for my generic wireless keyboard with mouse and
multimedia buttons at a computer fair... works quite nicely. I would
seriously *NOT* pay anything more than $20 for a keyboard...

-I

On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 07:41, Mark wrote:
> Directron.com has a couple of nice little integrated mouse/keyboards
> that are IR. I just ordered one
> and it should be here today. Was $25.
>
> gertjan wrote:
>
> >http://www.keyboardco.com/KBC1525WTB_wireless_trackball_keyboard.htm
> >
> >I found this one in the uk, which fits will with my small black case, it
> >should work on linux (IR reciever plugs into PS/2 port) but I'm not sure
> >if it will interfere with an existing IR for remote control.
> >Also the price is a bit steep (79 pound sterling + 29 shipping to
> >mainland europe)
> >
> >Gertjan Assies
> >There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those who understand binary,
> >and those who don't.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net
> >[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net] On Behalf Of Casper Pedersen
> >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:12 PM
> >To: Discussion about mythtv
> >Subject: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >After getting up and runnng, and beeing very happy(except for the sound
> >only in right speaker problem), I would like to have a wireless
> >keyboard/mouse so that I don't have use telnet/ssh to modify my setup.
> >
> >Where can one get one of these neat small keyboards with buildin mouse,
> >which is used for SetTop boxes in Hotels?
> >
> >Regards/Casper
> >
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I would seriously pay any reasonable amount for a guaranteed working
remote/keyboard pair. Which is what I did, on recommendation from
someone else on the list.

The Lite-On Airboard is a nice, solid feeling keyboard with a stick
mouse. There is just one caveat: it does have a laptop style keyboard
layout... this is not a problem for me, but it might be for some others.

BTW, my total cost (including shipping) was $35. I think that that is
quite reasonable if you want something guaranteed to work with XYZ
remote control... but if someone wanted to pay around with several
different keyboards and remotes until they found a working combination
(if they wanted it for a remote control receiver) then sure, they could
go your route. YMMV.

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Forde [mailto:ian@duckland.org]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:13 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse

Heh. I paid $13 for my generic wireless keyboard with mouse and
multimedia buttons at a computer fair... works quite nicely. I would
seriously *NOT* pay anything more than $20 for a keyboard...

-I

On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 07:41, Mark wrote:
> Directron.com has a couple of nice little integrated mouse/keyboards
> that are IR. I just ordered one
> and it should be here today. Was $25.
>
> gertjan wrote:
>
> >http://www.keyboardco.com/KBC1525WTB_wireless_trackball_keyboard.htm
> >
> >I found this one in the uk, which fits will with my small black case,
it
> >should work on linux (IR reciever plugs into PS/2 port) but I'm not
sure
> >if it will interfere with an existing IR for remote control.
> >Also the price is a bit steep (79 pound sterling + 29 shipping to
> >mainland europe)
> >
> >Gertjan Assies
> >There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those who understand
binary,
> >and those who don't.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net
> >[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net] On Behalf Of Casper
Pedersen
> >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:12 PM
> >To: Discussion about mythtv
> >Subject: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >After getting up and runnng, and beeing very happy(except for the
sound
> >only in right speaker problem), I would like to have a wireless
> >keyboard/mouse so that I don't have use telnet/ssh to modify my
setup.
> >
> >Where can one get one of these neat small keyboards with buildin
mouse,
> >which is used for SetTop boxes in Hotels?
> >
> >Regards/Casper
> >
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> I would seriously pay any reasonable amount for a guaranteed working
> remote/keyboard pair. Which is what I did, on recommendation from
> someone else on the list.

did you ever try the cheapie RF wireless keyboards tigerdirect.com has for
$30? its a chieftec brand... i bought one specifically for my myth box...
so far its working well... for the price, i wasn't expecting a whole lot...
but i've had a logitech wireless (RF) one in the past and this one is just
as good. i haven't done anything with the multimedia buttons yet, but it
sends them as keystrokes so i'm sure I can figure it out (or someone else
has maybe, but i haven't looked into it)

the one thing I don't like about wireless keyboards/mice is the need to
charge batteries... i might go buy a chargable system again, i haven't had
to replace the batteries yet so I'm not annoyed yet ;) .... but, my whole
point with bringing this up is there are some kb/mice combos out there that
have built in charger cradles... (well, for the mice--i'm not completely
sure about if they had a keybaord charger too?)

-dane


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Nope, I haven't tried any RF keyboards... I was looking specifically for
an I/R keyboard. I don't use it as a keyboard, I use it as an I/R
receiver. I program my universal remote to send the keystrokes that the
keyboard would. No lirc, because the keyboard plugs into the PS/2 port.
There was no hassle, and someone else on the list had already verified
that a universal remote control would be compatible with the IR
receiver the keyboard came with. It was worth every penny, considering
the hassle I have seen some people on the list go to in order to get
lirc working. ($29 + $5 shipping).

Of course, if you were looking for a wireless keyboard, and not a remote
receiver that as a bonus comes with a wireless keyboard, then like you
did, I would suggest an RF keyboard. That said, you can pry my I/R
keyboard from my cold, dead, twisted fingers! =)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dane A. Kantner [mailto:webmaster@cmtweb.com]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:11 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse

> I would seriously pay any reasonable amount for a guaranteed working
> remote/keyboard pair. Which is what I did, on recommendation from
> someone else on the list.

did you ever try the cheapie RF wireless keyboards tigerdirect.com has
for
$30? its a chieftec brand... i bought one specifically for my myth
box...
so far its working well... for the price, i wasn't expecting a whole
lot...
but i've had a logitech wireless (RF) one in the past and this one is
just
as good. i haven't done anything with the multimedia buttons yet, but
it
sends them as keystrokes so i'm sure I can figure it out (or someone
else
has maybe, but i haven't looked into it)

the one thing I don't like about wireless keyboards/mice is the need to
charge batteries... i might go buy a chargable system again, i haven't
had
to replace the batteries yet so I'm not annoyed yet ;) .... but, my
whole
point with bringing this up is there are some kb/mice combos out there
that
have built in charger cradles... (well, for the mice--i'm not completely
sure about if they had a keybaord charger too?)

-dane


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Excelent, thank you.

Regards/Casper

Scott Blomfield wrote:

>http://www.digitalconnection.com/Products/Keyboard/sk7100.asp
>here is a possibly better deal.
>
>I/R keyboard with stick mouse. Received plugs into PS/2 ports for mouse
>and keyboard (or into serial for mouse, if desired). It is also
>compatible with several leading universal remote controls. Price is good
>at USD$29.00 each, I got two of them. (The keyboard at this site will
>arrive rebadged as Motorola, but the I/R receiver still says Lite-On)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gertjan [mailto:gertjan@assies.nu]
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:33 AM
>To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
>Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse
>
>http://www.keyboardco.com/KBC1525WTB_wireless_trackball_keyboard.htm
>
>I found this one in the uk, which fits will with my small black case, it
>should work on linux (IR reciever plugs into PS/2 port) but I'm not sure
>if it will interfere with an existing IR for remote control.
>Also the price is a bit steep (79 pound sterling + 29 shipping to
>mainland europe)
>
>Gertjan Assies
>There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those who understand binary,
>and those who don't.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net
>[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net] On Behalf Of Casper Pedersen
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:12 PM
>To: Discussion about mythtv
>Subject: [mythtv-users] Off-Topic - Wireless Keyboard/Mouse
>
>Hi,
>
>After getting up and runnng, and beeing very happy(except for the sound
>only in right speaker problem), I would like to have a wireless
>keyboard/mouse so that I don't have use telnet/ssh to modify my setup.
>
>Where can one get one of these neat small keyboards with buildin mouse,
>which is used for SetTop boxes in Hotels?
>
>Regards/Casper
>
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