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Streaming
Hi, all.
I'm a big fan of ffserver, and use it on my mythtv box when myth isn't
running, so I can listen to the radio and watch TV upstairs in a window on
my PC. I'd really like to be able to incorporate streaming into mythtv.
There could be a few ways to do this, at the minute I shut down mythbackend
and start ffserver manually, of course ffserver can pick up most file
formats and stream them, so the alternative would be just picking up the
ringbuffer.nuv file, but I'm having no luck with the nuv stuff, I guess this
may be because it's an unusual format Myth uses?

Anyother possibility would be trying to use transcode to get it into a
format that ffmpeg/server would understand. But I suspect this would put way
to much load on my allready struggling CPU.

Anyone got any pointers on this, I don't mind getting my fingers dirty, but
I'm new to python and my C is pretty rusty. I'm also fairly new to some of
the intricacies of video formats

thanks
Mark.
RE: Streaming [ In reply to ]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net]On Behalf Of Mark Edwards
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:07 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Streaming
>
>
> Anyone got any pointers on this, I don't mind getting my fingers
> dirty, but
> I'm new to python and my C is pretty rusty. I'm also fairly new to some of
> the intricacies of video formats
>
> thanks
> Mark.


What's Python got to do with Myth? Are you thinking of Freevo?

-JAC
Re: Streaming [ In reply to ]
On Friday 06 June 2003 02:07 pm, Mark Edwards wrote:
> Hi, all.
> I'm a big fan of ffserver, and use it on my mythtv box when myth isn't
> running, so I can listen to the radio and watch TV upstairs in a window on
> my PC. I'd really like to be able to incorporate streaming into mythtv.
> There could be a few ways to do this, at the minute I shut down mythbackend
> and start ffserver manually, of course ffserver can pick up most file
> formats and stream them, so the alternative would be just picking up the
> ringbuffer.nuv file, but I'm having no luck with the nuv stuff, I guess
> this may be because it's an unusual format Myth uses?
>
> Anyother possibility would be trying to use transcode to get it into a
> format that ffmpeg/server would understand. But I suspect this would put
> way to much load on my allready struggling CPU.
>
> Anyone got any pointers on this, I don't mind getting my fingers dirty, but
> I'm new to python and my C is pretty rusty. I'm also fairly new to some of
> the intricacies of video formats

You could always just run a remote mythfrontend, as that's pretty much exactly
what it's meant for.

Isaac
RE: Streaming [ In reply to ]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@snowman.net]On Behalf Of Isaac Richards
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:48 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Streaming
>
>
> On Friday 06 June 2003 02:07 pm, Mark Edwards wrote:
> > Hi, all.
> > I'm a big fan of ffserver, and use it on my mythtv box when myth isn't
> > running, so I can listen to the radio and watch TV upstairs in
> a window on
> > my PC. I'd really like to be able to incorporate streaming into mythtv.
> > There could be a few ways to do this, at the minute I shut down
> mythbackend
> > and start ffserver manually, of course ffserver can pick up most file
> > formats and stream them, so the alternative would be just picking up the
> > ringbuffer.nuv file, but I'm having no luck with the nuv stuff, I guess
> > this may be because it's an unusual format Myth uses?
> >
>
> You could always just run a remote mythfrontend, as that's pretty
> much exactly
> what it's meant for.
>
> Isaac


Unless of course he's talking about streaming it to a non-Linux box...

-JAC
Re: Streaming [ In reply to ]
> >
> > On Friday 06 June 2003 02:07 pm, Mark Edwards wrote:
> > > Hi, all.
> > > I'm a big fan of ffserver, and use it on my mythtv box when myth isn't
> > > running, so I can listen to the radio and watch TV upstairs in
> > a window on
> > > my PC. I'd really like to be able to incorporate streaming into
mythtv.
> > > There could be a few ways to do this, at the minute I shut down
> > mythbackend
> > > and start ffserver manually, of course ffserver can pick up most file
> > > formats and stream them, so the alternative would be just picking up
the
> > > ringbuffer.nuv file, but I'm having no luck with the nuv stuff, I
guess
> > > this may be because it's an unusual format Myth uses?
> > >
> >
> > You could always just run a remote mythfrontend, as that's pretty
> > much exactly
> > what it's meant for.
> >
> > Isaac
>
>
> Unless of course he's talking about streaming it to a non-Linux box...
>
> -JAC
>

Yeah, I'm in a house of students, they're all under Bill's spell, and they
use the streaming capabilities too. :(
I did get some advice that the patched mencoder can convert the files with
little problem, so I'll look into this, but I'm still not sure if this could
be streamed real-time or not.

cheers
Mark.
RE: Streaming [ In reply to ]
You can always run mplayer under cygwin on the windows box and run samba on the myth backend. Works great for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Edwards [mailto:irish@irishmark.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:02 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Streaming


> >
> > On Friday 06 June 2003 02:07 pm, Mark Edwards wrote:
> > > Hi, all.
> > > I'm a big fan of ffserver, and use it on my mythtv box when myth isn't
> > > running, so I can listen to the radio and watch TV upstairs in
> > a window on
> > > my PC. I'd really like to be able to incorporate streaming into
mythtv.
> > > There could be a few ways to do this, at the minute I shut down
> > mythbackend
> > > and start ffserver manually, of course ffserver can pick up most file
> > > formats and stream them, so the alternative would be just picking up
the
> > > ringbuffer.nuv file, but I'm having no luck with the nuv stuff, I
guess
> > > this may be because it's an unusual format Myth uses?
> > >
> >
> > You could always just run a remote mythfrontend, as that's pretty
> > much exactly
> > what it's meant for.
> >
> > Isaac
>
>
> Unless of course he's talking about streaming it to a non-Linux box...
>
> -JAC
>

Yeah, I'm in a house of students, they're all under Bill's spell, and they
use the streaming capabilities too. :(
I did get some advice that the patched mencoder can convert the files with
little problem, so I'll look into this, but I'm still not sure if this could
be streamed real-time or not.

cheers
Mark.

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Re: Streaming [ In reply to ]
I think I heard "Joseph A. Caputo" say:
>Unless of course he's talking about streaming it to a non-Linux box...


That would be nice - only Linux box in my house is my mythtv machine.
Everything else is FreeBSD, and it would be nice to be able to watch
recoded shows on my desktop instead of going upstairs and turning on
the tube.

-matthew
Re: Streaming [ In reply to ]
lists@mediumgreen.com wrote:

> I think I heard "Joseph A. Caputo" say:
>
>>Unless of course he's talking about streaming it to a non-Linux box...
>
> That would be nice - only Linux box in my house is my mythtv machine.
> Everything else is FreeBSD, and it would be nice to be able to watch
> recoded shows on my desktop instead of going upstairs and turning on
> the tube.

I don't see why mythfrontend wouldn't work with FreeBSD? It only needs
Qt, some sort of OSS-compatible device for sound output, and a net
connection. I'm pretty sure FreBSD has all that available.


Pete
Re: Streaming [ In reply to ]
On Friday 06 June 2003 08:31 pm, Pierre-Olivier Bouchard wrote:
> lists@mediumgreen.com wrote:
>
> I don't see why mythfrontend wouldn't work with FreeBSD? It only needs
> Qt, some sort of OSS-compatible device for sound output, and a net
> connection. I'm pretty sure FreBSD has all that available.
>
At the moment, Myth won't compile without the V4L stuff, among other things.
What would be nice would be if someone:

(a) broke up the source so that the frontend portions could compile
independently (mostly mythfrontend; the add-on modules pretty much already do
this)

(b) 'gurus' for other platforms (*BSD, Cygwin, LinuxPPC, Darwin/OSX) would
develop working builds (at least for the frontend) for their platforms and
contributed their changes back (appropriately #ifdef'd, of course)

-JAC