Mailing List Archive: Further 150 stuff

Further 150 stuff

Aug 17, 2006, 3:31 PM

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I've gotten tired of not having TV 3, so I had another crack at the 150.
I'm starting to seriously wonder now HOW on earth people manage to set
these things up to coexist with DVB-S cards at all. The 150 is set to the
same source as the DVB cards, which is the EPG grabbed by tv_grab_dvb. I've
set the ranking for the 150 to -10, and the DVB's to +10.

The channel table is as follows, in comma-delimited format:

"chanid",,,"channum",,,"freqid","sourceid","callsign","name","icon","finetune","videofilters","xmltvid","recpriority","contrast","brightness","colour","hue","tvformat","commfree","visible","outputfilters","useonairguide","mplexid","serviceid","atscsrcid"
2025,,,1025,,,,1,"Maori TV","Maori
TV",,,,"1025.dvb.guide",0,32768,32768,32768,32768,"Default",0,1,,0,10,1025,0
2035,,,1035,,,,1,"TV One","TV
One",,,,"1035.dvb.guide",0,32768,32768,32768,32768,"Default",0,1,,0,10,1035,0
2036,,,1036,,,,1,"TV 2","TV
2",,,,"1036.dvb.guide",0,32768,32768,32768,32768,"Default",0,1,,0,10,1036,0
2904,,,,,,,1,"MAOTV","Maori TV (0x0401)
01",,,,"0.dvb.guide",0,32768,32768,32768,32768,"Default",0,1,,0,,0,0
1006,,,1033,,,196250,1,"TV 3","TV
3","none",,,"1033.dvb.guide",0,32768,32768,32768,32768,"Default",0,1,,0,,,
1001,,,2,,,55250,1,"Channel 2","Channel
2","none",,,,0,32768,32768,32768,32768,"Default",0,1,,0,,,
1003,,,4,,,175250,1,"Channel 4","Channel
4","none",,,,0,32768,32768,32768,32768,"Default",0,1,,0,,,

I'm not entirely sure what "MAOTV" is, but I'm not game enough to delete it
since it goes by this "0.dvb.guide". TV One, 2, and Maori TV are all DVB
channels. If I use this table, trying to view the DVB channels results in
static from the tuner for some reason known only to God. Switching cards
with 'y' results in the DVB signal, but I'm not sure that this would work
with recordings. TV3, pure 150, works nice (if with somewhat fuzzy
reception) with a working EPG, but nothing else does. Not even "Channel 2"
or "Channel 4".

Can someone PLEASE tell me where I'm going wrong with this? I don't want to
try TV1 and 2 on the tuner yet, I just want to get TV 3 going! One channel
at a time... as it is, I can't WAIT for Freeview. I may even desire a third
tuner, if this 18 channel business has good enough programming.

(As a side note, getting the table out of Webmin in a non-HTML display was
highly annoying, involving editing the html, loading it into OpenOffice,
saving as CSV, editing, and loading again. I know no SQL language.)

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Alan Podjursky ICQ 24423014
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"When in doubt, use brute force." -- Ken Thompson
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Re: Further 150 stuff [ In reply to ]

stevehodge at gmail

Aug 17, 2006, 4:47 PM

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On 8/18/06, AlanP <alan.p@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> If I use this table, trying to view the DVB channels results in
> static from the tuner for some reason known only to God. Switching cards
> with 'y' results in the DVB signal, but I'm not sure that this would work
> with recordings. TV3, pure 150, works nice (if with somewhat fuzzy
> reception) with a working EPG, but nothing else does. Not even "Channel 2"
> or "Channel 4".
>
> Can someone PLEASE tell me where I'm going wrong with this?

You shouldn't have the same sourceid for DVB and tuner channels. Your
setup should look like this:

Cards (capturecard table):
cardid,videodevice,cardtype,defaultinput
1,0,'DVB','DVBInput'
2,'/dev/v4l/video0','MPEG','Television'

The above might not be quite accurate, but this part is probably
correct for you already.

Video Sources (videosource table):
sourceid, name
1, Satellite
2, Tuner

I think you only have one row here. You need to set up separate video
sources for the DVB card and the PVR150's tuner. The video source
represents a particular video feed (practically the set of channels
available on a particular input of a capture card) - you don't have
the same feed on the DVB card as the PVR150, even though they have
some channels in common.

Card/Video source connections (cardinput table):
cardinputid,cardid,sourceid,inputname
1,1,1,'DVBInput'
2,2,2,'Tuner'

Again, this might not be quite accurate, the point is that you need an
association between the DVB card and the DVB video source and an
association between the PVR150 and the "tuner" or "television" source.
At the moment I think you've got '1' in the third column for both your
sources.

Channels:
chanid,channum,freqid,sourceid,callsign,name,xmltvid,mplexid,serviceid
2025,1025,,1,'Maori TV','Maori TV','1025.dvb.guide',10,1025
2035,1,,1,'TV One','TV One','1035.dvb.guide',10,1035
2036,2,,1,'TV 2','TV 2 (Sat)','1036.dvb.guide',10,1036
1006,3,196250,2,'TV 3','TV 3','1033.dvb.guide',,
1001,2,55250,2,'TV 2','TV 2 (Tuner)','1036.dvb.guide',,
1003,4,175250,2,'Channel 4','Channel 4',,,

The tuner channels should be associated with the tuner video source,
in this case sourceid 2. That's what is causing you problems, I
believe. I've also changed a few other things. You don't need to use
the default channel numbers (channum). The channel number is just the
number you enter on your remote to find the channel. It doesn't need
to correspond to the mplexid or the xmltvid or anything else. Call
sign is the unique identifier of the channel as broadcast (i.e. the
station). Channel ID (chanid) is just an internal identifier in the
database.

If you want common channels (such as One and 2) to appear only once
you need to make sure that all instances of a particular channel have
the same channum and the same callsign. You should also give them all
the same xmltvid and load EPG data for the same source.

Hope this helps,
Steve

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Re: Further 150 stuff [ In reply to ]

alan.p at orcon

Aug 17, 2006, 5:26 PM

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At 11:47 a.m. 18/08/2006, you wrote:
I think you only have one row here. You need to set up separate video
>sources for the DVB card and the PVR150's tuner. The video source
>represents a particular video feed (practically the set of channels
>available on a particular input of a capture card) - you don't have
>the same feed on the DVB card as the PVR150, even though they have
>some channels in common.

Many thanks for this tip -- this was exactly the problem! I now have
working TV3, *and* working TV1,2,Maori as well!

I'm still keeping the 150 ranked about twenty points below the Skystar2s,
though -- either Myth does a horrible job of tuning into the station, or
the reception on cloudy days is worse than I remember.

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Alan Podjursky ICQ 24423014
"Yay, evil evil! Happy torture!" -- Gwyneth
"When in doubt, use brute force." -- Ken Thompson
http://www.fanfiction.net/~mercva

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