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ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally
missywarnkin at yahoo
Jul 18, 2016, 12:54 PM
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ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally
Dear Apache Enthusiast,

As you are no doubt already aware, we will be holding ApacheCon in
Seville, Spain, the week of November 14th, 2016. The call for papers
(CFP) for this event is now open, and will remain open until
September 9th.

The event is divided into two parts, each with its own CFP. The first
part of the event, called Apache Big Data, focuses on Big Data
projects and related technologies.

Website: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
CFP:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/cfp

The second part, called ApacheCon Europe, focuses on the Apache
Software Foundation as a whole, covering all projects, community
issues, governance, and so on.

Website: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe
CFP: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/cfp

ApacheCon is the official conference of the Apache Software
Foundation, and is the best place to meet members of your project and
other ASF projects, and strengthen your project's community.

If your organization is interested in sponsoring ApacheCon, contact Rich Bowen
at evp@apache.org  ApacheCon is a great place to find the brightest
developers in the world, and experts on a huge range of technologies.

I hope to see you in Seville!
==================================

Melissaon behalf of the ApacheCon Team
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
yhpeng at orange
Jul 18, 2016, 8:17 PM
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Hi,

Is Apache modperl still in active development?

thanks.

On 2016/7/19 3:54, Melissa Warnkin wrote:
> ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally
>
> Dear Apache Enthusiast,
>
> As you are no doubt already aware, we will be holding ApacheCon in
> Seville, Spain, the week of November 14th, 2016. The call for papers
> (CFP) for this event is now open, and will remain open until
> September 9th.
>
> The event is divided into two parts, each with its own CFP. The first
> part of the event, called Apache Big Data, focuses on Big Data
> projects and related technologies.
>
> Website: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
> CFP:
> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/cfp
>
> The second part, called ApacheCon Europe, focuses on the Apache
> Software Foundation as a whole, covering all projects, community
> issues, governance, and so on.
>
> Website: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe
> CFP: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/cfp
>
> ApacheCon is the official conference of the Apache Software
> Foundation, and is the best place to meet members of your project and
> other ASF projects, and strengthen your project's community.
>
> If your organization is interested in sponsoring ApacheCon, contact Rich
> Bowen
> at evp@apache.org <mailto:evp@apache.org> ApacheCon is a great place to
> find the brightest
> developers in the world, and experts on a huge range of technologies.
>
> I hope to see you in Seville!
> ==================================
> **//___^
>
> Melissa
> on behalf of the ApacheCon Team**//___^
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
J.Gao at sydney
Jul 18, 2016, 8:19 PM
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* yhpeng@orange.fr <yhpeng@orange.fr> wrote:

> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:17:01 +0800
> From: yhpeng@orange.fr
> To: modperl@perl.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101
> Thunderbird/45.1.1
>
> Hi,
>
> Is Apache modperl still in active development?

Apparently, yes.

Regards,


Jie


> thanks.
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
yhpeng at orange
Jul 18, 2016, 8:26 PM
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so, will go for support of perl6?


On 2016/7/19 11:19, Jie Gao wrote:
> * yhpeng@orange.fr <yhpeng@orange.fr> wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:17:01 +0800
>> From: yhpeng@orange.fr
>> To: modperl@perl.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101
>> Thunderbird/45.1.1
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is Apache modperl still in active development?
>
> Apparently, yes.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Jie
>
>
>> thanks.
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
J.Gao at sydney
Jul 18, 2016, 8:44 PM
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* yhpeng@orange.fr <yhpeng@orange.fr> wrote:

> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:26:48 +0800
> From: yhpeng@orange.fr
> To: modperl@perl.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101
> Thunderbird/45.1.1
>
> so, will go for support of perl6?

I wouldn't count on planning that far. No implementation of perl6 is complete, 16 years after Larry Wall announced the language.


-Jie



> On 2016/7/19 11:19, Jie Gao wrote:
> >* yhpeng@orange.fr <yhpeng@orange.fr> wrote:
> >
> >>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:17:01 +0800
> >>From: yhpeng@orange.fr
> >>To: modperl@perl.apache.org
> >>Subject: Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally
> >>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101
> >> Thunderbird/45.1.1
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Is Apache modperl still in active development?
> >
> >Apparently, yes.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >
> >Jie
> >
> >
> >>thanks.
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
js5 at sanger
Jul 19, 2016, 1:45 AM
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On 7/19/2016 4:26 AM, yhpeng@orange.fr wrote:
> so, will go for support of perl6?
>
Probably once it becomes more prevelant - the perl6 community is still
relatively small
{moving current perl 5 codebases to it will be none-trivial} and most
will not see the
gain from doing so... It will take time for traction (similar to other
moves like Drupal 7 -> 8)

It is a different language and you have to think differently and code
differently to use...

perl 5 and mod_perl are still going strong... the point is that for the
best part of 20 years
both have been doing well and doing stuff right - they need tweaks here
and there but
you don't need to do huge amounts of development on top of what is
already one of the
best base levels for web development...



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Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
yhpeng at orange
Jul 19, 2016, 1:53 AM
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On 2016/7/19 16:45, James Smith wrote:
> Probably once it becomes more prevelant - the perl6 community is still
> relatively small
> {moving current perl 5 codebases to it will be none-trivial} and most
> will not see the
> gain from doing so... It will take time for traction (similar to other
> moves like Drupal 7 -> 8)
>
> It is a different language and you have to think differently and code
> differently to use...

Thanks for pointing out that.

>
> perl 5 and mod_perl are still going strong... the point is that for the
> best part of 20 years
> both have been doing well and doing stuff right - they need tweaks here
> and there but
> you don't need to do huge amounts of development on top of what is
> already one of the
> best base levels for web development...

I have Java programming background, know some modperl development, wrote
several handlers with mp2 which work really well.

but, does modperl have something like JDBC, the database connection pool?

thanks.
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
J.Gao at sydney
Jul 19, 2016, 1:55 AM
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* yhpeng@orange.fr <yhpeng@orange.fr> wrote:

> but, does modperl have something like JDBC, the database connection pool?

See http://dbi.perl.org/ .


Regards,


Jie
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
yhpeng at orange
Jul 19, 2016, 1:58 AM
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Jie,

I have been using Apache::DBI, but I don't think it is something like JDBC.

regards.

On 2016/7/19 16:55, Jie Gao wrote:
>
> * yhpeng@orange.fr <yhpeng@orange.fr> wrote:
>
>> but, does modperl have something like JDBC, the database connection pool?
>
> See http://dbi.perl.org/ .
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Jie
>
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
js5 at sanger
Jul 19, 2016, 2:37 AM
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On 7/19/2016 9:58 AM, yhpeng@orange.fr wrote:
> Jie,
>
> I have been using Apache::DBI, but I don't think it is something like
> JDBC.
>
Thankfully not - JDBC is one of the biggest nightmares our DBAs face -
if we have
network issues (firewall session timeout e.g.) we have had all sorts of
problems with
oracle jdbc connections.

We actually don't even use Apache::DBI (we are primarily MySQL) as the
"uncontrolled"
caching of connections can lead to problems - flooding database servers
with open
connections, connections failing because of firewall issues. We
explicitly cache (and
reconnect) using DBIx::Connector to cope with the few databases we
explicitly want
vast connections...

Admitedly many of our servers have upward of 30-40 apps on them, talking
to 40-50
different databases (quite often on the same server!)




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Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
yhpeng at orange
Jul 19, 2016, 2:49 AM
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how about this module for connection caching?
http://search.cpan.org/~timb/DBI-1.636/lib/DBD/Gofer.pm

thanks

On 2016/7/19 17:37, James Smith wrote:
>
>
> On 7/19/2016 9:58 AM, yhpeng@orange.fr wrote:
>> Jie,
>>
>> I have been using Apache::DBI, but I don't think it is something like
>> JDBC.
>>
> Thankfully not - JDBC is one of the biggest nightmares our DBAs face -
> if we have
> network issues (firewall session timeout e.g.) we have had all sorts of
> problems with
> oracle jdbc connections.
>
> We actually don't even use Apache::DBI (we are primarily MySQL) as the
> "uncontrolled"
> caching of connections can lead to problems - flooding database servers
> with open
> connections, connections failing because of firewall issues. We
> explicitly cache (and
> reconnect) using DBIx::Connector to cope with the few databases we
> explicitly want
> vast connections...
>
> Admitedly many of our servers have upward of 30-40 apps on them, talking
> to 40-50
> different databases (quite often on the same server!)
>
>
>
>
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
vv.lists at wanadoo
Jul 19, 2016, 3:11 AM
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:58:54 +0800
yhpeng@orange.fr wrote:
>
> On 2016/7/19 16:55, Jie Gao wrote:
> >
> > * yhpeng@orange.fr <yhpeng@orange.fr> wrote:
> >
> >> but, does modperl have something like JDBC, the database connection pool?
> >
> > See http://dbi.perl.org/ .
> >

>
> I have been using Apache::DBI, but I don't think it is something like JDBC.
>

Hi,

[Please try not to top-post]

DBI has connect_cached that amounts to a form of pooling.

See also Perrin's comments in this thread :
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/modperl/modperl/107021

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Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
ruben at mrbrklyn
Jul 19, 2016, 3:14 AM
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On 07/19/2016 05:37 AM, James Smith wrote:
>
>
> On 7/19/2016 9:58 AM, yhpeng@orange.fr wrote:
>> Jie,
>>
>> I have been using Apache::DBI, but I don't think it is something like
>> JDBC.
>>

There is a ODBC driver under DBD if someone wanted to use it (for
whatever reason)

> Thankfully not - JDBC is one of the biggest nightmares our DBAs face -
> if we have
> network issues (firewall session timeout e.g.) we have had all sorts of
> problems with
> oracle jdbc connections.
>
> We actually don't even use Apache::DBI (we are primarily MySQL) as the
> "uncontrolled"
> caching of connections can lead to problems - flooding database servers
> with open
> connections, connections failing because of firewall issues. We
> explicitly cache (and
> reconnect) using DBIx::Connector to cope with the few databases we
> explicitly want
> vast connections...
>
> Admitedly many of our servers have upward of 30-40 apps on them, talking
> to 40-50
> different databases (quite often on the same server!)
>
>
>
>


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Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
pali at cpan
Jul 19, 2016, 9:10 AM
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On Tuesday 19 July 2016 05:19:26 Jie Gao wrote:
> * yhpeng@orange.fr <yhpeng@orange.fr> wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:17:01 +0800
> > From: yhpeng@orange.fr
> > To: modperl@perl.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally
> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0)
> > Gecko/20100101
> >
> > Thunderbird/45.1.1
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is Apache modperl still in active development?
>
> Apparently, yes.

Really, and when will be released new mod_perl which will be compatible
with *current* perl version, not some pre-historic ;-)?
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
wrowe at rowe-clan
Jul 19, 2016, 11:07 AM
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It isn't undergoing significant changes, but 2.0.9 fixed several bugs and
brought it up-to-date with then-current perl releases a year ago June, and
I understand there is some activity to have it build well with 5.24.

On Jul 18, 2016 10:17 PM, <yhpeng@orange.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is Apache modperl still in active development?
>
> thanks.
>
> On 2016/7/19 3:54, Melissa Warnkin wrote:
>
>> ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally
>>
>> Dear Apache Enthusiast,
>>
>> As you are no doubt already aware, we will be holding ApacheCon in
>> Seville, Spain, the week of November 14th, 2016. The call for papers
>> (CFP) for this event is now open, and will remain open until
>> September 9th.
>>
>> The event is divided into two parts, each with its own CFP. The first
>> part of the event, called Apache Big Data, focuses on Big Data
>> projects and related technologies.
>>
>> Website: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
>> CFP:
>>
>> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/cfp
>>
>> The second part, called ApacheCon Europe, focuses on the Apache
>> Software Foundation as a whole, covering all projects, community
>> issues, governance, and so on.
>>
>> Website: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe
>> CFP:
>> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/cfp
>>
>> ApacheCon is the official conference of the Apache Software
>> Foundation, and is the best place to meet members of your project and
>> other ASF projects, and strengthen your project's community.
>>
>> If your organization is interested in sponsoring ApacheCon, contact Rich
>> Bowen
>> at evp@apache.org <mailto:evp@apache.org> ApacheCon is a great place to
>> find the brightest
>> developers in the world, and experts on a huge range of technologies.
>>
>> I hope to see you in Seville!
>> ==================================
>> **//___^
>>
>> Melissa
>> on behalf of the ApacheCon Team**//___^
>>
>
Re: ApacheCon: Getting the word out internally [ In reply to ]
yhpeng at orange
Jul 19, 2016, 6:05 PM
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On 2016/7/20 2:07, William A Rowe Jr wrote:
> It isn't undergoing significant changes, but 2.0.9 fixed several bugs
> and brought it up-to-date with then-current perl releases a year ago
> June, and I understand there is some activity to have it build well with
> 5.24.

Thanks for the info. I have been using 2.0.4 so I would plan a upgrading.

Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) mod_apreq2-20051231/2.6.0 mod_perl/2.0.4
Perl/v5.10.1 configured

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