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> For those who are interested, I've now uploaded binary builds of
> mod_perl-2.0.8 and libapreq2-2.13 components compatible with Apache
> Lounge 2.2.24 Build 25 February 2013 (win32) and each of:
>
> * ActivePerl 5.16.3 Build 1603 (x86)
> * Strawberry Perl 5.16.3 Build 1 (32bit)
>
> You can download them from http://people.apache.org/~stevehay/
>
> Please let me know if you have any problems.

Thank you for making these available Steve. It's very helpful to
folks like myself who have trouble reliably generating binaries for
the Microsoft Windows OS, but would like to introduce others to it
who aren't starting out with any of the Unix or Linux OSes.

Are there any plans of getting 64-bit versions compiled too, or is
there some complication with doing this on Windows?

Randolf Richardson - randolf@inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/

Randolf Richardson wrote:
>> For those who are interested, I've now uploaded binary builds of
>> mod_perl-2.0.8 and libapreq2-2.13 components compatible with Apache
>> Lounge 2.2.24 Build 25 February 2013 (win32) and each of:
>>
>> * ActivePerl 5.16.3 Build 1603 (x86)
>> * Strawberry Perl 5.16.3 Build 1 (32bit)
>>
>> You can download them from http://people.apache.org/~stevehay/
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any problems.
>
> Thank you for making these available Steve. It's very helpful to
> folks like myself who have trouble reliably generating binaries for
> the Microsoft Windows OS, but would like to introduce others to it
> who aren't starting out with any of the Unix or Linux OSes.
>
+1
(actually, more than +1, as we are quite a few people here using your binaries)

> Are there any plans of getting 64-bit versions compiled too, or is
> there some complication with doing this on Windows?
>

Any chance of a version for Activestate Perl 5.14 ? (personally, 32-bit)


Reason : I had also started with 5.16, but then it seems that a lot of modules are not yet
available for that version as ppm, so I reverted back to 5.14 for now.

Yes, it should be possible to make a 64-bit build as well. I will look
into this in the next week or so. ActivePerl, StrawberryPerl and
ApacheLounge all have 64-bit builds available; I just need to dig out
the right 64-bit compiler to use (ideally the one used by ActivePerl).
I will let you know when I have builds ready.

On 28 April 2013 01:34, Randolf Richardson <randolf@modperl.pl> wrote:
>> For those who are interested, I've now uploaded binary builds of
>> mod_perl-2.0.8 and libapreq2-2.13 components compatible with Apache
>> Lounge 2.2.24 Build 25 February 2013 (win32) and each of:
>>
>> * ActivePerl 5.16.3 Build 1603 (x86)
>> * Strawberry Perl 5.16.3 Build 1 (32bit)
>>
>> You can download them from http://people.apache.org/~stevehay/
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any problems.
>
> Thank you for making these available Steve. It's very helpful to
> folks like myself who have trouble reliably generating binaries for
> the Microsoft Windows OS, but would like to introduce others to it
> who aren't starting out with any of the Unix or Linux OSes.
>
> Are there any plans of getting 64-bit versions compiled too, or is
> there some complication with doing this on Windows?
>
> Randolf Richardson - randolf@inter-corporate.com
> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
> Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
>
>

No problem! I've just uploaded builds for ActivePerl 1405 (5.14.4) and
StrawberryPerl 5.14.4.1, which you can find in the same location as
before: http://people.apache.org/~stevehay/

On 28 April 2013 12:10, André Warnier <aw@ice-sa.com> wrote:
> Randolf Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>> For those who are interested, I've now uploaded binary builds of
>>> mod_perl-2.0.8 and libapreq2-2.13 components compatible with Apache
>>> Lounge 2.2.24 Build 25 February 2013 (win32) and each of:
>>>
>>> * ActivePerl 5.16.3 Build 1603 (x86)
>>> * Strawberry Perl 5.16.3 Build 1 (32bit)
>>>
>>> You can download them from http://people.apache.org/~stevehay/
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any problems.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for making these available Steve. It's very helpful to
>> folks like myself who have trouble reliably generating binaries for the
>> Microsoft Windows OS, but would like to introduce others to it who aren't
>> starting out with any of the Unix or Linux OSes.
>>
> +1
> (actually, more than +1, as we are quite a few people here using your
> binaries)
>
>
>> Are there any plans of getting 64-bit versions compiled too, or is
>> there some complication with doing this on Windows?
>>
>
> Any chance of a version for Activestate Perl 5.14 ? (personally, 32-bit)
>
>
> Reason : I had also started with 5.16, but then it seems that a lot of
> modules are not yet available for that version as ppm, so I reverted back to
> 5.14 for now.

Steve Hay wrote:
> No problem! I've just uploaded builds for ActivePerl 1405 (5.14.4) and
> StrawberryPerl 5.14.4.1, which you can find in the same location as
> before: http://people.apache.org/~stevehay/

Thanks. You had your first customer for all 4 of them 2 minutes ago.
Really grateful.

Can someone get the corresponding page in the mod_perl online docs updated to point to
this, if Steve doesn't mind ?
It would surely save a lot of people a lot of aggravation.

Hi Steve,

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Steve Hay <steve.m.hay@googlemail.com> wrote:
> For those who are interested, I've now uploaded binary builds of
> mod_perl-2.0.8 and libapreq2-2.13 components compatible with Apache
> Lounge 2.2.24 Build 25 February 2013 (win32) and each of:

Thanks for providing these binaries.

Using my mod_perl based application I get apache restarts from time
to time. This is not related to your binary per se (I also have it
with kmx'es mod_perl binaries for perl 5.12) but it is related to
mod_perl on Win32; Linux does not have this.
The bad thing is that I don't have any specific information in the log
file; after some requests, the process just restarts. If I use the
application as CGI, this does not happen; but of course the whole
thing is very slow.

Can you maybe also provide a debug version of mod_perl by rebuilding
mod_perl with MP_DEBUG=1 ?

--
Mike

This is a known issue related to the winnt MPM. You're likely seeing
your worker segfault. On linux, there are usually extra processes so if
one segfaults there's another process that can step in fast enough. But
on the winnt MPM, there's one master and exactly one multi-threader
worker. So when that worker blows up, the master needs to completely
tear it down, and bring it back up, which is what you're seeing.

Look for a bug in user-code, not in the mod_perl binary.

Issac

On 29/04/2013 13:49, Michiel Beijen wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Steve Hay <steve.m.hay@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> For those who are interested, I've now uploaded binary builds of
>> mod_perl-2.0.8 and libapreq2-2.13 components compatible with Apache
>> Lounge 2.2.24 Build 25 February 2013 (win32) and each of:
>
> Thanks for providing these binaries.
>
> Using my mod_perl based application I get apache restarts from time
> to time. This is not related to your binary per se (I also have it
> with kmx'es mod_perl binaries for perl 5.12) but it is related to
> mod_perl on Win32; Linux does not have this.
> The bad thing is that I don't have any specific information in the log
> file; after some requests, the process just restarts. If I use the
> application as CGI, this does not happen; but of course the whole
> thing is very slow.
>
> Can you maybe also provide a debug version of mod_perl by rebuilding
> mod_perl with MP_DEBUG=1 ?
>
> --
> Mike
>

Hi Issac,

Thanks for your response.
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Issac Goldstand <margol@beamartyr.net> wrote:

> This is a known issue related to the winnt MPM. You're likely seeing
> your worker segfault. On linux, there are usually extra processes so if
> one segfaults there's another process that can step in fast enough. But
> on the winnt MPM, there's one master and exactly one multi-threader
> worker. So when that worker blows up, the master needs to completely
> tear it down, and bring it back up, which is what you're seeing.
>
> Look for a bug in user-code, not in the mod_perl binary.

But if the worker 'blows up', this is still caused by some code I run right?
If I set the Apache log level to 'debug' I still see nothing in the
logs except for the restart.

What should I do to find out *what* is causing the restart?
--
Mike

First of all, see if you can get a stacktrace.

There's also always spreading print/debug statements around - I'm
unfortunately not so up-to-date on the various perl profiling modules
around, but they might be helpful.

Issac

On 29/04/2013 14:16, Michiel Beijen wrote:
> Hi Issac,
>
> Thanks for your response.
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Issac Goldstand <margol@beamartyr.net> wrote:
>
>> This is a known issue related to the winnt MPM. You're likely seeing
>> your worker segfault. On linux, there are usually extra processes so if
>> one segfaults there's another process that can step in fast enough. But
>> on the winnt MPM, there's one master and exactly one multi-threader
>> worker. So when that worker blows up, the master needs to completely
>> tear it down, and bring it back up, which is what you're seeing.
>>
>> Look for a bug in user-code, not in the mod_perl binary.
>
> But if the worker 'blows up', this is still caused by some code I run right?
> If I set the Apache log level to 'debug' I still see nothing in the
> logs except for the restart.
>
> What should I do to find out *what* is causing the restart?
> --
> Mike
>

Hi Issac,

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Issac Goldstand <margol@beamartyr.net> wrote:
> First of all, see if you can get a stacktrace.

so how would you recommend I create a stack trace? This has been my
whole problem, the process simply restarts and I don't see why.

> There's also always spreading print/debug statements around - I'm
> unfortunately not so up-to-date on the various perl profiling modules
> around, but they might be helpful.

This is not possible here as I can reproduce it sending X number of
requests to my app. This can be *any* request to *any* part so I have
no chance to find the appropriate part of the app or any of the CPAN
modules it uses. This is why I'm looking for a way to generate some
kind of debug output so I know at least *what* the application does
before it exits.
--
Mike

64-bit binaries are now uploaded too.

On 28 April 2013 20:22, Steve Hay <steve.m.hay@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Yes, it should be possible to make a 64-bit build as well. I will look
> into this in the next week or so. ActivePerl, StrawberryPerl and
> ApacheLounge all have 64-bit builds available; I just need to dig out
> the right 64-bit compiler to use (ideally the one used by ActivePerl).
> I will let you know when I have builds ready.
>
> On 28 April 2013 01:34, Randolf Richardson <randolf@modperl.pl> wrote:
>>> For those who are interested, I've now uploaded binary builds of
>>> mod_perl-2.0.8 and libapreq2-2.13 components compatible with Apache
>>> Lounge 2.2.24 Build 25 February 2013 (win32) and each of:
>>>
>>> * ActivePerl 5.16.3 Build 1603 (x86)
>>> * Strawberry Perl 5.16.3 Build 1 (32bit)
>>>
>>> You can download them from http://people.apache.org/~stevehay/
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any problems.
>>
>> Thank you for making these available Steve. It's very helpful to
>> folks like myself who have trouble reliably generating binaries for
>> the Microsoft Windows OS, but would like to introduce others to it
>> who aren't starting out with any of the Unix or Linux OSes.
>>
>> Are there any plans of getting 64-bit versions compiled too, or is
>> there some complication with doing this on Windows?
>>
>> Randolf Richardson - randolf@inter-corporate.com
>> Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
>> Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
>> http://www.inter-corporate.com/
>>
>>

Do you have an exception-trap at the highest level around your
program? I always have the entire program enclosed within a try-catch
block (using Try::Tiny; even just an eval {} would be better than
nothing), so if any Perl-level exceptions are thrown then they get
caught and logged. It won't trap C-level blow-ups (crashes), though,
but it might help, depending on the problem.

I may have a go at building debug binaries sometime, but you'd also
need debug perl and httpd for the full details. (I've only done
complete debug builds of everything before, not just mod_perl
components for, say, StrawberryPerl...) Which perl/httpd are you using
(where from, and what versions)?

Do you have cut-down sample programs which you can post for others to
reproduce your problem with?

On 29 April 2013 15:15, Michiel Beijen <michiel.beijen@otrs.com> wrote:
> Hi Issac,
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Issac Goldstand <margol@beamartyr.net> wrote:
>> First of all, see if you can get a stacktrace.
>
> so how would you recommend I create a stack trace? This has been my
> whole problem, the process simply restarts and I don't see why.
>
>> There's also always spreading print/debug statements around - I'm
>> unfortunately not so up-to-date on the various perl profiling modules
>> around, but they might be helpful.
>
> This is not possible here as I can reproduce it sending X number of
> requests to my app. This can be *any* request to *any* part so I have
> no chance to find the appropriate part of the app or any of the CPAN
> modules it uses. This is why I'm looking for a way to generate some
> kind of debug output so I know at least *what* the application does
> before it exits.
> --
> Mike

On 22 February 2015 at 23:43, Steve Hay <steve.m.hay@googlemail.com> wrote:
> For those who are interested, I have uploaded binary 64-bit builds of
> mod_perl-2.0.8 and libapreq2-2.13 components compatible with Apache
> Lounge 2.2.29 Build 02 February 2015 (win64) and each of:
>
> * ActivePerl 5.20.1 Build 2000 (x64)
> * Strawberry Perl 5.20.1 Build 1 (64bit)
>
> and 32-bit builds compatible with Apache Lounge 2.2.29 Build 03
> February 2015 (win32) and:
>
> * Strawberry Perl 5.20.1 Build 1 (32bit, no64)
>
> You can download them from http://people.apache.org/~stevehay/
>

There are also now builds for 5.18.4 in the same place. As above, the
32-bit Strawberry Perl version is the "no64" build only, and there is
no build for 32-bit ActivePerl.

That’s great, thanks Steve!

Sent from the depths of my mind on an iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Steve Hay <steve.m.hay@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> For those who are interested, I have uploaded binary 64-bit builds of
> mod_perl-2.0.10 and libapreq2-2.14 components compatible with Apache
> Lounge 2.4.27 (Win64, VC15, built 10 July 2017) and each of:
>
> * ActivePerl 5.22.3.2204 (x64)
> * Strawberry Perl 5.22.3.1 (64bit)
>
> I will make a 32-bit build compatible with Strawberry Perl's "32bit
> without USE_64_BIT_INT" version tomorrow, followed by similar
> ActivePerl/Strawberry Perl 5.24.1 versions in the next couple of days.
>
> You can download them from http://home.apache.org/~stevehay/
>
> Regards,
> Steve

On 06.09.2017 03:12, Philippe Chiasson wrote:
> That’s great, thanks Steve!

+1
Another recent caller on the list should be very happy too.

>
> Sent from the depths of my mind on an iPhone
>
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Steve Hay <steve.m.hay@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For those who are interested, I have uploaded binary 64-bit builds of
>> mod_perl-2.0.10 and libapreq2-2.14 components compatible with Apache
>> Lounge 2.4.27 (Win64, VC15, built 10 July 2017) and each of:
>>
>> * ActivePerl 5.22.3.2204 (x64)
>> * Strawberry Perl 5.22.3.1 (64bit)
>>
>> I will make a 32-bit build compatible with Strawberry Perl's "32bit
>> without USE_64_BIT_INT" version tomorrow, followed by similar
>> ActivePerl/Strawberry Perl 5.24.1 versions in the next couple of days.
>>
>> You can download them from http://home.apache.org/~stevehay/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steve
>

Steve,
Thanks very much! This is a great help and will save me a bunch of time getting the upgraded apache / perl rolled out. Definitely a +1 from me as well.

Thanks,
Lewis

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Hay [mailto:steve.m.hay@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM
To: modperl@perl.apache.org; dev@perl.apache.org
Cc: Steffen <info@apachelounge.com>
Subject: New Windows mod_perl binaries available

For those who are interested, I have uploaded binary 64-bit builds of
mod_perl-2.0.10 and libapreq2-2.14 components compatible with Apache Lounge 2.4.27 (Win64, VC15, built 10 July 2017) and each of:

* ActivePerl 5.22.3.2204 (x64)
* Strawberry Perl 5.22.3.1 (64bit)

I will make a 32-bit build compatible with Strawberry Perl's "32bit without USE_64_BIT_INT" version tomorrow, followed by similar ActivePerl/Strawberry Perl 5.24.1 versions in the next couple of days.

You can download them from http://home.apache.org/~stevehay/

Regards,
Steve

Steve,

Great news.

Just tested the 64bit version with Perl 5.24 with latest Apache from
Apachelounge, it is working perfectly. Noticeably faster then with Apache
2.2.

Needed to tweak my app a bit for the new API like remote_ip changed to
client_ip, always supply $r->user(username) to my authentication handles
and could not load modules in a <perl> section any more but that was not a
problem to fix.

Perfect !

Thanks,

Thomas den Braber

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Hay <steve.m.hay@googlemail.com>
To: "modperl@perl.apache.org" <modperl@perl.apache.org>, dev@perl.apache.org
Cc: Steffen <info@apachelounge.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 00:14:39 +0100
Subject: New Windows mod_perl binaries available


For those who are interested, I have uploaded binary 64-bit builds of
mod_perl-2.0.10 and libapreq2-2.14 components compatible with Apache
Lounge 2.4.27 (Win64, VC15, built 10 July 2017) and each of:

* ActivePerl 5.22.3.2204 (x64)
* Strawberry Perl 5.22.3.1 (64bit)

I will make a 32-bit build compatible with Strawberry Perl's "32bit
without USE_64_BIT_INT" version tomorrow, followed by similar
ActivePerl/Strawberry Perl 5.24.1 versions in the next couple of days.

You can download them from http://home.apache.org/~stevehay/
[http://home.apache.org/~stevehay/]

Regards,
Steve

Thank you for doing this, Steve. Your effort is wonderful because
it makes it possible for all Windows users to have access to ModPerl
(and hopefully also libapreq2).

In case others aren't aware, the vast majority of Windows systems
administrators I've encountered aren't familiar with compiling from
sources, as is a generally common skill among Unix/Linux
administrators. But it's not only a matter of software development
skills; it's also a matter of the tools and libraries necessary for
compiling from source not being easy to find and configure on Windows
(at least compared to how easy it is to obtain and use these tools
and libraries in Unix/Linux environments). The reason for this is
that Windows software normally comes pre-compiled.

So, thanks again Steve -- what you're doing is very helpful.

> For those who are interested, I have uploaded binary 64-bit builds of
> mod_perl-2.0.10 and libapreq2-2.14 components compatible with Apache
> Lounge 2.4.34 (Win64, VC15, built 15 August 2018) and each of:
>
> * ActivePerl 5.26.1.2601 (x64)
> * Strawberry Perl 5.26.1.1 (64bit)
> * Strawberry Perl 5.28.0.1 (64bit)
>
> ActivePerl 5.28.0 isn't available yet, but I will upload builds for it
> when it is.
>
> I haven't made 32-bit builds this time. There doesn't seem to be any
> 32-bit builds of ActivePerl any more either, if the current releases
> are anything to go by, and I personally only use 64-bit now anyway (as
> does my $workplace).
>
> You can download them from http://home.apache.org/~stevehay/
>
> Regards,
> Steve


Randolf Richardson - randolf@inter-corporate.com
Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
http://www.inter-corporate.com/