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On Tuesday 21 February 2012 17:15:22 Pavel Řezníček wrote:
> Hello my dear Maemo fellows,
>
> Once several days, most of the desktop widgets on my N900 just disappear.
>
> A reboot doesn't correct this (the widgets don't reappear again).
>
> I have to re-add them manually.
>
> When I re-add them, they persist after the reboot but only until the next
> accidental vanishing.
>
> What does cause this behaviour and how could I fix it?
>
> I look forward for your solutions.

Hi, when hildon-desktop (and other hildon-*) process is starting it check if
last time process exited normally. And of not hildon-desktop will disable all
plugins (e.g. widgets too) and reset configuration. I do not know how to fix
it...

--
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Pavel Řezníček <cigydd@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello my dear Maemo fellows,
>
> Once several days, most of the desktop widgets on my N900 just disappear.
>
> A reboot doesn't correct this (the widgets don't reappear again).
>
> I have to re-add them manually.
>
> When I re-add them, they persist after the reboot but only until the next
> accidental vanishing.
>
> What does cause this behaviour and how could I fix it?
>
> I look forward for your solutions.

Hi Pavel,

It's a response to a bug/crash in the desktop, possibly caused by
certain widgets. Desktop Clock, QNetMan, Currency Exchange are widgets
people claim will trigger this problem. I'm sure there are others.

Try to think if there was a widget you installed recently before this
problem happened and try to remove it. See if the problem goes away.

If you can't accept that, there are some scripts on a talk.maemo.org
thread about this problem that will restart the desktop and restore
your widgets so you don't have to reboot or re-add them manually.
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On Tuesday 21 February 2012 20:31:31 you wrote:
> ----- Původní zpráva -----
>
> > On Tuesday 21 February 2012 17:15:22 Pavel Řezníček wrote:
> > > Hello my dear Maemo fellows,
> > >
> > > Once several days, most of the desktop widgets on my N900 just
> > > disappear.
> > >
> > > A reboot doesn't correct this (the widgets don't reappear again).
> > >
> > > I have to re-add them manually.
> > >
> > > When I re-add them, they persist after the reboot but only until the
> > > next accidental vanishing.
> > >
> > > What does cause this behaviour and how could I fix it?
> > >
> > > I look forward for your solutions.
> >
> > Hi, when hildon-desktop (and other hildon-*) process is starting it
> > check if last time process exited normally. And of not hildon-desktop
> > will disable all plugins (e.g. widgets too) and reset configuration. I
> > do not know how to fix it...
>
> Hello Pali,
>
> I sometimes run too many applications at the same time. Sometimes MicroB or
> Conversation becomes unresponsive so I think the hildon-desktop could also
> become unresponsive and be killed automatically and restarted. It resets
> all its settings then. This is one of my hypotheses.

It is possible. Maybe good way will be to patch hildon-* to do not reset
settings when time of 2 crashes is greater then some constant.


(ps: please sent copy of mail to mailinglist, not only to some people)

--
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

----- Původní zpráva -----
> On Tuesday 21 February 2012 20:31:31 you wrote:
> > ----- Původní zpráva -----
> >
> > > On Tuesday 21 February 2012 17:15:22 Pavel Řezníček wrote:
> > > > Hello my dear Maemo fellows,
> > > >
> > > > Once several days, most of the desktop widgets on my N900 just
> > > > disappear.
> > > >
> > > > A reboot doesn't correct this (the widgets don't reappear again).
> > > >
> > > > I have to re-add them manually.
> > > >
> > > > When I re-add them, they persist after the reboot but only until
> > > > the next accidental vanishing.
> > > >
> > > > What does cause this behaviour and how could I fix it?
> > > >
> > > > I look forward for your solutions.
> > >
> > > Hi, when hildon-desktop (and other hildon-*) process is starting it
> > > check if    last time process exited normally. And of not
> > > hildon-desktop will disable all    plugins (e.g. widgets too) and
> > > reset configuration. I do not know how to fix    it...
> >
> > Hello Pali,
> >
> > I sometimes run too many applications at the same time. Sometimes
> > MicroB or Conversation becomes unresponsive so I think the
> > hildon-desktop could also become unresponsive and be killed
> > automatically and restarted. It resets all its settings then. This is
> > one of my hypotheses.
>
> It is possible. Maybe good way will be to patch hildon-* to do not reset
> settings when time of 2 crashes is greater then some constant.

Yes, that's approximately what Paul Hartman suggests (he mentions some scripts to work it around).

> (ps: please sent copy of mail to mailinglist, not only to some people)

Excuse me everybody, I always forget to send a copy to the mailinglist…

> --
> Pali Rohár
> pali.rohar@gmail.com

--
Pavel Řezníček

----- Původní zpráva -----
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Pavel Řezníček <cigydd@gmail.com
<mailto:cigydd@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > Hello my dear Maemo fellows,
> >
> > Once several days, most of the desktop widgets on my N900 just
> > disappear.
> >
> > A reboot doesn't correct this (the widgets don't reappear again).
> >
> > I have to re-add them manually.
> >
> > When I re-add them, they persist after the reboot but only until the
> > next accidental vanishing.
> >
> > What does cause this behaviour and how could I fix it?
> >
> > I look forward for your solutions.
>
> Hi Pavel,
>
> It's a response to a bug/crash in the desktop, possibly caused by
> certain widgets. Desktop Clock, QNetMan, Currency Exchange are widgets
> people claim will trigger this problem. I'm sure there are others.
>
> Try to think if there was a widget you installed recently before this
> problem happened and try to remove it. See if the problem goes away.
>
> If you can't accept that, there are some scripts on a talk.maemo.org
> thread about this problem that will restart the desktop and restore
> your widgets so you don't have to reboot or re-add them manually.
> _______________________________________________
> maemo-users mailing list
> maemo-users@maemo.org <mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org>
> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Hello Paul,

Thank you for your response. It seems like a solution.
I can disable most of the widgets. I use many of them but only a few are
really necessary for me.
I don’t run those that you name but it’s pretty probable that some of
the widgets I use are just buggy.
The only widget I wish to keep is Dr. Launch. We shall see if it isn’t
the buggy one ;-)
So for the start, I’ll experiment and remove the widgets one by one.
Maybe I shall report my results for the benefit of everybody on this
mailing list.
--
Pavel Řezníček

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