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Am Dienstag, den 11.01.2011, 09:29 -0200 schrieb nogueira13:
> I have my Nokia Tablet N810 stolled from my apartment a few days ago.
> I would like to know if it is possible to track it if it is logged on
> (I have created a password for turn on it, but the password is not too
> much strong, so I am taking with the hypopthesis that some is capable
> to turn on it) using his GPS feature inside it. I backupped his MAC
> address. another possibilitie was that Nokia could block it so that
> itnot work anymore.

Sounds like asking your TV producer to block your stolen TV. ;-)
What exactly should a hardware producer "block" here?

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Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 13:01:31, Andre Klapper a écrit :
> Am Dienstag, den 11.01.2011, 09:29 -0200 schrieb nogueira13:
> > I have my Nokia Tablet N810 stolled from my apartment a few days ago.
> > I would like to know if it is possible to track it if it is logged on
> > (I have created a password for turn on it, but the password is not too
> > much strong, so I am taking with the hypopthesis that some is capable
> > to turn on it) using his GPS feature inside it. I backupped his MAC
> > address. another possibilitie was that Nokia could block it so that
> > itnot work anymore.
>
> Sounds like asking your TV producer to block your stolen TV. ;-)
> What exactly should a hardware producer "block" here?
>
> andre

SMSCON can do it : http://wiki.maemo.org/SMSCON

But it is for N900 only I think, and obviously you need to install and
configure it before...

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A GSM equipped device can be tracked down. The N810 doesn't have a GSM
unit AFAIK. The only way you could identify it is when it logs on to a
wifi network with the MAC you noted. But that wifi can be anywhere and
there's literally no way to monitor if a device with a certain MAC
address is logged on to some random access point on some private
network.
So I don't see any way to track it down.

What could have been done in advance would be installing some kind of
cronjob or demon that would try to "call home" (ie publish information
about its location/state on a server you grant it access to).

Make sure to change all your passwords that might have been stored on
the device.
And if you have *really* sensitive information stored on it, you did
something wrong anyways. Try making it less relevant...
But usually the first thing that happens with stolen mobiles is they get
flashed, for resell.


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I think there is something to do with IMEI no. comprises of 15 digits to trace or may be related to the hardware (motherboard of the device) if the data is very sensitive it should be reported to Police & i believe Police tracks using IMEI no. but i am not fully aware it might be or may not just a guess & hope this will workout.
Please check this out for more details
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/IMEI
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----- Original message -----
> A GSM equipped device can be tracked down. The N810 doesn't have a GSM
> unit AFAIK. The only way you could identify it is when it logs on to a
> wifi network with the MAC you noted. But that wifi can be anywhere and
> there's literally no way to monitor if a device with a certain MAC
> address is logged on to some random access point on some private
> network.
> So I don't see any way to track it down.
>
> What could have been done in advance would be installing some kind of
> cronjob or demon that would try to "call home" (ie publish information
> about its location/state on a server you grant it access to).
>
> Make sure to change all your passwords that might have been stored on
> the device.
> And if you have *really* sensitive information stored on it, you did
> something wrong anyways. Try making it less relevant...
> But usually the first thing that happens with stolen mobiles is they get
> flashed, for resell.
>
>
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Well you'll have a hard time tracking a device that only knows wifi. You
couldn't track a stone just because you engrave an IMEI on it.


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On Tuesday 11 January 2011 18:32:01 khalid.reach@gmail.com wrote:
> I think there is something to do with IMEI no. comprises of 15 digits to
> trace or may be related to the hardware (motherboard of the device) if the
> data is very sensitive it should be reported to Police & i believe Police
> tracks using IMEI no. but i am not fully aware it might be or may not just
> a guess & hope this will workout. Please check this out for more details
> http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/IMEI

IMEI blocking is only relevant for mobile phones -- the N810 is not a phone
and doesn't have an IMEI.

By the way, IMEI blocking only works in some countries. There is a reasonable
description of it at http://www.solidblogger.com/block-lost-mobile-imei-no/
(although that is for India, but it works the same way anywhere it is
implemented).

But bear in mind that even where IMEI blocking does work, it only stops the
phone connecting to the GSM network. It does not stop the thief having full
access to all the other functions (including accessing any data on the phone
and copying it off using WiFi or Bluetooth). It also does not work (in most
cases) outside the country -- so a thief (or a subsequent buyer of the phone)
can use it on a network in another country.

In this case, your best hope is that when the thief realises it is not
actually a mobile phone he throws it away.

Graham
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