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afaik merlin1991 is on holiday till monday, with "flaky inet"
:).



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От: Iván Gálvez Junquera
Относно: Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
До: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Изпратено на: Петък, 2012, Август 17 19:16:10 EEST


Hi

I'm resending this message as I have noticed that it was rejected by maemo-developers mailing list as I wasn't properly subscribed.

I'd also like to comment that it would be useful to have scheduled meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers and contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't increase the overhead of the project.


Merlin1991, Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please
provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief
summary of the decisions adopted? I know that logs are
available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting,
and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going
to be adopted, specially about KP.
Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.

Regards
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From: Iván Gálvez Junquera ivgalvez@gmail.com >
Date: 2012/8/11
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org , council@maemo.org

Cc: Ивайло Д freemangordon@abv.bg >, Christian Ratzenhofer christian_ratzenhofer@yahoo.de >


Merlin1991,


Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions adopted?

I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.



Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.

2012/8/2 Marcin Mielniczuk marmistrz@linux.pl >











I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P

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---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
From:
Marcin Mielniczuk marmistrzmar@gmail.com >
To:
"Ивайло Д" freemangordon@abv.bg >, maemo-developers@maemo.org , council@maemo.org


Cc:

Date:
Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:50:10 +0200
Subject:
Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]







Hi,



I have some debug info about eglibc I compiled but causes many problems.



I'm attaching gdb logs from Calendar and Angry Birds Classic for MeeGo, the 2nd one run thru MeeCoLay. Calendar from libc6 2.10 only, the AB problem exist with both version of glibc. hth.



I've got some more info about problems with libc6 from "gcc 4.6 and fremantle thread", I'll send it later.



I'm not at home and have a limited internet access, so I won't be able to attend.

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Marcin



On Thu Aug
2 2012 10:38:47 AM CEST, Ивайло Димитров freemangordon@abv.bg > wrote:



>
Hi all,

>

> Following the attached mail, I would like to propose a meeting of CSSU

> team and everyone who is involved/interested. The meeting to be help on

> #maemo-ssu IRC channel on freenode.net , today, 02.08.2012 18:00 UTC.

>

> Topics to be discussed:

>

> 1. Inclusion of kernel replacement in CSSU (community kernel) and

> possibilities of a kernel upgrade to a newer version. 2. Upgrade of

> toolchain used to build CSSU stuff. 3. glibc/kernel pselect() fix and

> evaluation/planning of glibc upgrade to a newer version.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ivaylo Dimitrov (freemangordon)

>

>

>

>




CSSU meeting









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The "meeting" basically had 2 discussion points:

#1 adoption of a kernel into cssu
#2 upgrade of the toolchain used to build cssu

As for the kernel, and the libc select/pselect bug that could be fixed
with an updated kernel we still haven't come to a clear decision.
freemangordon suggested to take the power kernel and strip it of
unstable patches, which leads to the problem of how to review the
patches kernel power contains.
Another solution would be to take the current nokia provided kernel
source and backport only necessary patches to keep a system that is as
stable as possible. For this job nobody stepped forward though.
I personally would prefer the second solution since it should be the
users choice if they want everything (or even a subset) of the
features/changes the power kernel brings to their device, whilst the
select/pselect bug has to be fixed regardless if the kernel is as stock
as it can get or if it's the power kernel.
Here we reached no real decision, but if a maintainer for a patched
stock kernel shows up it will be integrated quickly.

The upgraded toolchain is if anything something for future.
Cssu-thumb already uses an upgraded toolchain because otherwise it
wouldn't work, so it could provide a benchmark of the stability of a
chosen toolchain in the future, but there was no decision as to when or
if we change the toolchain that is is used for -testing and -stable.

Am 18.08.2012 10:38, schrieb ?????? ????????:
> afaik merlin1991 is on holiday till monday, with "flaky inet" :).
>
>
>
> -------- ?????????? ????? --------
> ??: Iván Gálvez Junquera
> ???????: Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
> ??: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> ????????? ??: ?????, 2012, ?????? 17 19:16:10 EEST
>
>
> Hi
>
> I'm resending this message as I have noticed that it was rejected by
> maemo-developers mailing list as I wasn't properly subscribed.
>
> I'd also like to comment that it would be useful to have scheduled
> meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers
> and contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't
> increase the overhead of the project.
>
> Merlin1991,
>
> Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via
> mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the
> decisions adopted?
>
> I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of
> argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can
> clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.
>
> Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.
>
> Regards
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Iván Gálvez Junquera* <ivgalvez@gmail.com
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=ivgalvez@gmail.com>>
> Date: 2012/8/11
> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
> To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=maemo-developers@maemo.org>,
> council@maemo.org <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=council@maemo.org>
> Cc: ?????? ? <freemangordon@abv.bg
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=freemangordon@abv.bg>>, Christian
> Ratzenhofer <christian_ratzenhofer@yahoo.de
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=christian_ratzenhofer@yahoo.de>>
>
>
> Merlin1991,
>
> Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via
> mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the
> decisions adopted?
>
> I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of
> argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can
> clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.
>
> Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.
>
> 2012/8/2 Marcin Mielniczuk <marmistrz@linux.pl
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=marmistrz@linux.pl>>
>
> I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P
>
> --
> Sent from my Nokia N900
> Marcin
>
>
> ---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
> From: Marcin Mielniczuk <marmistrzmar@gmail.com
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=marmistrzmar@gmail.com>>
> To: "?????? ?" <freemangordon@abv.bg
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=freemangordon@abv.bg>>,
> maemo-developers@maemo.org
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=maemo-developers@maemo.org>,
> council@maemo.org <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=council@maemo.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:50:10 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
> Hi,
>
> I have some debug info about eglibc I compiled but causes many
> problems.
>
> I'm attaching gdb logs from Calendar and Angry Birds Classic for
> MeeGo, the 2nd one run thru MeeCoLay. Calendar from libc6 2.10
> only, the AB problem exist with both version of glibc. hth.
>
> I've got some more info about problems with libc6 from "gcc 4.6
> and fremantle thread", I'll send it later.
>
> I'm not at home and have a limited internet access, so I won't be
> able to attend.
> --
> Sent from my Nokia N900
> Marcin
>
> On Thu Aug 2 2012 10:38:47 AM CEST, ?????? ????????
> <freemangordon@abv.bg
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=freemangordon@abv.bg>> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Following the attached mail, I would like to propose a meeting
> of CSSU
> > team and everyone who is involved/interested. The meeting to be
> help on
> > #maemo-ssu IRC channel on freenode.net <http://freenode.net> ,
> today, 02.08.2012 18:00 UTC.
> >
> > Topics to be discussed:
> >
> > 1. Inclusion of kernel replacement in CSSU (community kernel) and
> > possibilities of a kernel upgrade to a newer version. 2. Upgrade of
> > toolchain used to build CSSU stuff. 3. glibc/kernel pselect()
> fix and
> > evaluation/planning of glibc upgrade to a newer version.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ivaylo Dimitrov (freemangordon)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> <Attachment> CSSU meeting
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
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