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Blocked: modutils vs. module-init-tools
Hi All-

I'm trying to do a `emerge -pvuD world` on my main workstation, and two
packages are coming up blocked:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] sys-apps/modutils (from pkg
sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.0-r2)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/module-init-tools (from pkg
sys-apps/modutils-2.4.25)

I'm running Gentoo Sources 2.4.25. I see that module-init-tools is "for
the development kernel >=2.5.48" according to packages.gentoo.org. So
is it safe for me to unmerge this package so that I can continue on
with my upgrade?

Thanks,
Dave


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Re: Blocked: modutils vs. module-init-tools [ In reply to ]
On чт, 2004-10-21 at 10:14 -0400, David Rea wrote:
> Hi All-
>
> I'm trying to do a `emerge -pvuD world` on my main workstation, and two
> packages are coming up blocked:
>
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/modutils (from pkg
> sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.0-r2)
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/module-init-tools (from pkg
> sys-apps/modutils-2.4.25)
>
> I'm running Gentoo Sources 2.4.25. I see that module-init-tools is "for
> the development kernel >=2.5.48" according to packages.gentoo.org. So
> is it safe for me to unmerge this package so that I can continue on
> with my upgrade?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
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>
Hi,
Modutils is for 2.4.x kernel-series and module-init-tools is for 2.6.x
kernels.
Not 100 % sure but on this ML there were reports that module-init-tools
works also with 2.4.x kernels (w/o modutils).
But to be completely sure could still use 'modutils' and 'emerge
module-init-tools -C'.
HTH
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Re: Blocked: modutils vs. module-init-tools [ In reply to ]
Quoting Rumen Yotov <rumen_yotov@dir.bg>:
> Hi,
> Modutils is for 2.4.x kernel-series and module-init-tools is for
> 2.6.x
> kernels.
> Not 100 % sure but on this ML there were reports that
> module-init-tools
> works also with 2.4.x kernels (w/o modutils).
> But to be completely sure could still use 'modutils' and 'emerge
> module-init-tools -C'.
> HTH

OK, I did an `emerge -C module-init-tools`. This successfully unmerged
the package, but now when I do an `emerge -pvuD world` I still get the
block. Only this time, it's listing the package as "New" to be
installed.

When I do a `qpkg -q module-init-tools` I get the following:

root@liberty src # qpkg -q module-init-tools
sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.0-r2
DEPENDED ON BY:
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.25
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.25-r2
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.25-r3
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.25-r4
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.26-r3
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.26-r9

However, when I do a `qpkg -q modutils` I get this:

root@liberty src # qpkg -q modutils
sys-apps/modutils-2.4.25 *
DEPENDED ON BY:
sys-apps/modutils-2.4.23
DEPENDED ON BY:
sys-apps/modutils-2.4.24
DEPENDED ON BY:
sys-apps/modutils-2.4.25
DEPENDED ON BY:
sys-apps/modutils-2.4.26
DEPENDED ON BY:
sys-apps/modutils-2.4.27
DEPENDED ON BY:

SO - since nothing depends on modutils, but the kernels apparently
depend on module-init-tools, should I try unmerging modutils instead?

I'm just trying to be very cautious about proceeding; as I mentioned,
this is my primary workstation and I cannot afford much downtime!

Thanks!
Dave


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Re: Blocked: modutils vs. module-init-tools [ In reply to ]
On Thursday 21 October 2004 23:59, David Rea wrote:
> Quoting Rumen Yotov <rumen_yotov@dir.bg>:
> > Hi,
> > Modutils is for 2.4.x kernel-series and module-init-tools is for
> > 2.6.x
> > kernels.
> > Not 100 % sure but on this ML there were reports that
> > module-init-tools
> > works also with 2.4.x kernels (w/o modutils).
> > But to be completely sure could still use 'modutils' and 'emerge
> > module-init-tools -C'.
> > HTH
>
> OK, I did an `emerge -C module-init-tools`. This successfully unmerged
> the package, but now when I do an `emerge -pvuD world` I still get the
> block. Only this time, it's listing the package as "New" to be
> installed.

modutils was the one you wanted to get rid of. modutils is kernel 2.4 only.
module-init-tools supports both 2.4 and 2.6. They block each other because
they both provide files of the same name (and function).

Regards,
Jason Stubbs

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Re: Blocked: modutils vs. module-init-tools [ In reply to ]
On чт, 2004-10-21 at 10:59 -0400, David Rea wrote:
> Quoting Rumen Yotov <rumen_yotov@dir.bg>:
> > Hi,
> > Modutils is for 2.4.x kernel-series and module-init-tools is for
> > 2.6.x
> > kernels.
> > Not 100 % sure but on this ML there were reports that
> > module-init-tools
> > works also with 2.4.x kernels (w/o modutils).
> > But to be completely sure could still use 'modutils' and 'emerge
> > module-init-tools -C'.
> > HTH
>
> OK, I did an `emerge -C module-init-tools`. This successfully unmerged
> the package, but now when I do an `emerge -pvuD world` I still get the
> block. Only this time, it's listing the package as "New" to be
> installed.
>
> When I do a `qpkg -q module-init-tools` I get the following:
>
> root@liberty src # qpkg -q module-init-tools
> sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.0-r2
> DEPENDED ON BY:
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.25
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.25-r2
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.25-r3
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.25-r4
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.26-r3
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.26-r9
>
> However, when I do a `qpkg -q modutils` I get this:
>
> root@liberty src # qpkg -q modutils
> sys-apps/modutils-2.4.25 *
> DEPENDED ON BY:
> sys-apps/modutils-2.4.23
> DEPENDED ON BY:
> sys-apps/modutils-2.4.24
> DEPENDED ON BY:
> sys-apps/modutils-2.4.25
> DEPENDED ON BY:
> sys-apps/modutils-2.4.26
> DEPENDED ON BY:
> sys-apps/modutils-2.4.27
> DEPENDED ON BY:
>
> SO - since nothing depends on modutils, but the kernels apparently
> depend on module-init-tools, should I try unmerging modutils instead?
>
> I'm just trying to be very cautious about proceeding; as I mentioned,
> this is my primary workstation and I cannot afford much downtime!
>
> Thanks!
> Dave
>
>
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>
Hi,
For a long (half a year) time working with 2.6-kernel so not recent
experience with 2.4.
Once had a broken system having both modutils and module-init-tools and
what is more interesting this only broke things when modutils (new
version) was compiled AFTER module-init-tools (obviously it thus
overrode some files from module-init-tools - virtual package).
The reverse situation, module-init-tools emerged after modutils worked
w/o problems (for a long time didn't even knew that had to unmerge one).
Only suggest, you go with module-init-tools, but first make a
binary-package of modutils 'quickpkg modutils' just in case.
Or do 'emerge -B module-init-tools' which will only make binary package
of module-init-tools then unmerge modutils and 'emerge -K
module-init-tools' (shouldn't have written this second option :)
HTH
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Rumen Yotov <rumen_yotov@dir.bg>
Re: Blocked: modutils vs. module-init-tools [ In reply to ]
Quoting Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@gentoo.org>:
> modutils was the one you wanted to get rid of. modutils is kernel 2.4
> only.
> module-init-tools supports both 2.4 and 2.6. They block each other
> because
> they both provide files of the same name (and function).
>
> Regards,
> Jason Stubbs

Thanks, Jason - I'm happily merging again!

Dave


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