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what am i suppose to do about these?
* Regenerating GNU info directory index...
* Processed 210 info files.
* IMPORTANT: 10 config files in /etc need updating.
* IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb need updating.
* Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.

if i do update these files will it override my current configs? i dont
want to mess up anything, do i even need to bother updating the config
files? if it wont mess anything up how do i go about updating? i really
didnt understand the --help

TIA

nick

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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
Nick Rout wrote:

>I think it'd be good to mention dispatch-conf here, which does the same
>job as etc-update, but IMHO is nicer to use (I accept thats a subjective
>thing)
>
>On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:26:28 -0400 (EDT)
>"Brett I. Holcomb" <brettholcomb@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Check the other thread here. However, run etc-update and CAREFULLY look
>>at the file it wants to replace. If there are any that you have changed
>>(such as /etc/fstab!!!) then don't let it - tell it no.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Sep
>>2004, Nick Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>* Regenerating GNU info directory index...
>>>* Processed 210 info files.
>>>* IMPORTANT: 10 config files in /etc need updating.
>>>* IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb need updating.
>>>* Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.
>>>
>>>if i do update these files will it override my current configs? i dont want
>>>to mess up anything, do i even need to bother updating the config files? if
>>>it wont mess anything up how do i go about updating? i really didnt
>>>understand the --help
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>nick
>>>
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root@gentoobox nick # dispatch-conf
dispatch-conf: Config archive dir [/etc/config-archive] must exist; fatal

now what?

nick

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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:36:36 +0000, Nick Smith <nick@computernick.com> wrote:
> * Regenerating GNU info directory index...
> * Processed 210 info files.
> * IMPORTANT: 10 config files in /etc need updating.
> * IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb need updating.
> * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.
>
> if i do update these files will it override my current configs? i dont
> want to mess up anything, do i even need to bother updating the config
> files? if it wont mess anything up how do i go about updating? i really
> didnt understand the --help
>
> TIA
>
> nick

It might overwrite something important. It might not. (You're a great
test case for the other long thread on this subject. hope youdon't
mind being a bit of a lab rat.) ;-)

Try running etc-update and seeing what files it wants to change. See
if you can tell what it's going to change. It should not actually
change anything witout you telling it to. Can you tell what it's going
to do? Are you comfortable with how the process works?

Good luck,
Mark

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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
On чт, 2004-09-30 at 01:36, Nick Smith wrote:
> * Regenerating GNU info directory index...
> * Processed 210 info files.
> * IMPORTANT: 10 config files in /etc need updating.
> * IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb need updating.
> * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.
>
> if i do update these files will it override my current configs? i dont
> want to mess up anything, do i even need to bother updating the config
> files? if it wont mess anything up how do i go about updating? i really
> didnt understand the --help
>
> TIA
>
> nick
>
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Hi,
This in IMHO isn't a perfect solution, as usually in the new config
files there are some bugfixes, new features, settings etc.
To see this yourself just to a diff file1 file2 to see there are more or
less changes. The new package versions come with their new configs,
settings, changes etc.
So to not have a 'static' (carved in stone) system you need to update
some settings which you hasn't even touched.
The most important is not to overwrite config files that you had changed
/edited/ and the new config is just the original version which you
already changed once.
Haven't tried it, but maybe you should have a look at dispatch-conf
/with some rcs config enabled/ to merge the new config files while still
keeping old configs. So you could always go back.
HTH
Rumen
Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
Check the other thread here. However, run etc-update and CAREFULLY look
at the file it wants to replace. If there are any that you have changed
(such as /etc/fstab!!!) then don't let it - tell it no.


On Wed, 29 Sep
2004, Nick Smith wrote:

> * Regenerating GNU info directory index...
> * Processed 210 info files.
> * IMPORTANT: 10 config files in /etc need updating.
> * IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb need updating.
> * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.
>
> if i do update these files will it override my current configs? i dont want
> to mess up anything, do i even need to bother updating the config files? if
> it wont mess anything up how do i go about updating? i really didnt
> understand the --help
>
> TIA
>
> nick
>
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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
I think it'd be good to mention dispatch-conf here, which does the same
job as etc-update, but IMHO is nicer to use (I accept thats a subjective
thing)

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:26:28 -0400 (EDT)
"Brett I. Holcomb" <brettholcomb@charter.net> wrote:

> Check the other thread here. However, run etc-update and CAREFULLY look
> at the file it wants to replace. If there are any that you have changed
> (such as /etc/fstab!!!) then don't let it - tell it no.
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Sep
> 2004, Nick Smith wrote:
>
> > * Regenerating GNU info directory index...
> > * Processed 210 info files.
> > * IMPORTANT: 10 config files in /etc need updating.
> > * IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb need updating.
> > * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.
> >
> > if i do update these files will it override my current configs? i dont want
> > to mess up anything, do i even need to bother updating the config files? if
> > it wont mess anything up how do i go about updating? i really didnt
> > understand the --help
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > nick
> >
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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 20:20, Nick Smith wrote:
> root@gentoobox nick # dispatch-conf
> dispatch-conf: Config archive dir [/etc/config-archive] must exist; fatal
>
> now what?

mkdir /etc/config-archive seems like a pretty reasonable suggestion :)

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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
Owen Ford wrote:

>On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 20:20, Nick Smith wrote:
>
>
>>root@gentoobox nick # dispatch-conf
>>dispatch-conf: Config archive dir [/etc/config-archive] must exist; fatal
>>
>>now what?
>>
>>
>
>mkdir /etc/config-archive seems like a pretty reasonable suggestion :)
>
>
>
--- /etc/DIR_COLORS 2004-07-18 01:36:43.000000000 +0000
+++ /etc/._cfg0000_DIR_COLORS 2004-09-18 19:44:42.000000000 +0000
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
# You can copy this file to .dir_colors in your $HOME directory to override
# the system defaults.
#
-# $Header:
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/coreutils/files/DIR_COLORS,v 1.3
2004/06/30 15:13:00 vapier Exp $
+# $Header:
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/coreutils/files/DIR_COLORS,v 1.6
2004/08/28 04:58:30 vapier Exp $

# COLOR needs one of these arguments: 'tty' colorizes output to ttys,
but not
# pipes. 'all' adds color characters to all output. 'none' shuts
colorization
@@ -39,7 +39,9 @@
TERM color-xterm
TERM color_xterm
TERM rxvt
+TERM rxvt-unicode
TERM screen
+TERM screen.linux
TERM screen-w
TERM vt100
TERM dtterm
@@ -57,16 +59,16 @@
# 30=black 31=red 32=green 33=yellow 34=blue 35=magenta 36=cyan 37=white
# Background color codes:
# 40=black 41=red 42=green 43=yellow 44=blue 45=magenta 46=cyan 47=white
-NORMAL 00 # global default, although everything should be something.
-FILE 00 # normal file
-DIR 01;34 # directory
-LINK 01;36 # symbolic link. (If you set this to 'target' instead of a
- # numerical value, the color is as for the file pointer to.)
-FIFO 40;33 # pipe
-SOCK 01;35 # socket
-DOOR 01;35 # door
-BLK 40;33;01 # block device driver
:


dont know what its asking here this is what i got when i ran the
program? im not doing anything until i here from someone on the list
what exactly i have to do here....

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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
> Hope this helps explain things, but since I don't use dispatch-conf, I
> can't tell you how to proceed, because I don't know what options it
> gives you after it has shown you the proposed changes.
>
> Holly
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you have given me plenty of info, as of right now i think im just going
to let the config files be out dated i dont want to risk screwing
anything up.

thanks for your help

nick

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Re: Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
Create a directory /etc/config-archive and it should run.

>
> From: Nick Smith <nick@computernick.com>
> Date: 2004/09/30 Thu AM 01:20:15 GMT
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] what am i suppose to do about these?
>
> Nick Rout wrote:
>
> >I think it'd be good to mention dispatch-conf here, which does the same
> >job as etc-update, but IMHO is nicer to use (I accept thats a subjective
> >thing)
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> root@gentoobox nick # dispatch-conf
> dispatch-conf: Config archive dir [/etc/config-archive] must exist; fatal
>
> now what?
>
> nick
>
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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
Nick Smith wrote:
> Owen Ford wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 20:20, Nick Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>> root@gentoobox nick # dispatch-conf
>>> dispatch-conf: Config archive dir [/etc/config-archive] must exist;
>>> fatal
>>>
>>> now what?
>>>
>>
>>
>> mkdir /etc/config-archive seems like a pretty reasonable suggestion :)
>>
>>
>>
> --- /etc/DIR_COLORS 2004-07-18 01:36:43.000000000 +0000
> +++ /etc/._cfg0000_DIR_COLORS 2004-09-18 19:44:42.000000000 +0000
> @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
> # You can copy this file to .dir_colors in your $HOME directory to override
> # the system defaults.
> #
> -# $Header:
> /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/coreutils/files/DIR_COLORS,v 1.3
> 2004/06/30 15:13:00 vapier Exp $
> +# $Header:
> /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/coreutils/files/DIR_COLORS,v 1.6
> 2004/08/28 04:58:30 vapier Exp $
>
> # COLOR needs one of these arguments: 'tty' colorizes output to ttys,
> but not
> # pipes. 'all' adds color characters to all output. 'none' shuts
> colorization
> @@ -39,7 +39,9 @@
> TERM color-xterm
> TERM color_xterm
> TERM rxvt
> +TERM rxvt-unicode
> TERM screen
> +TERM screen.linux
> TERM screen-w
> TERM vt100
> TERM dtterm
> @@ -57,16 +59,16 @@
> # 30=black 31=red 32=green 33=yellow 34=blue 35=magenta 36=cyan 37=white
> # Background color codes:
> # 40=black 41=red 42=green 43=yellow 44=blue 45=magenta 46=cyan 47=white
> -NORMAL 00 # global default, although everything should be something.
> -FILE 00 # normal file
> -DIR 01;34 # directory
> -LINK 01;36 # symbolic link. (If you set this to 'target' instead of a
> - # numerical value, the color is as for the file pointer to.)
> -FIFO 40;33 # pipe
> -SOCK 01;35 # socket
> -DOOR 01;35 # door
> -BLK 40;33;01 # block device driver
> :
>
>
> dont know what its asking here this is what i got when i ran the
> program? im not doing anything until i here from someone on the list
> what exactly i have to do here....
>

At this moment, it's not asking you to do anything. It's showing you
something-- the diff(erence) between the original file and the proposed
update.

Lines that start with a + sign will be added to the configuration file.
Lines that start with a - sign will be removed from the configuration
file. Lines that start with neither a + nor a - will remain unchanged.

The colon at the very bottom indicates that there are more lines that
cannot currently be displayed; you can use the PageUp and PageDown keys
to see the rest of the diff, or you can type 'q' to exit this screen.

Basically, you are supposed to be looking at the lines that will be
added and removed to see if their addition or removal will cause a
problem for you.

This particular file, DIR_COLORS, is the configuration file for
colorized output in terminals. So if you type ls --colors, the terminal
output of the ls command is colorized for easier reading. This file
tells the system what colors to use for individual types of files so
that directories appear as one color (in this case, bold blue, if you
look at the color key codes), normal files another (default, probably
white or black), symlinks a third (bold cyan), etc.

It's a nice convenience, but it's not particularly important in terms of
breaking your system in any way, which makes it good practice for
reading a diff and deciding how to update a relatively unimportant
configuration file.

Hope this helps explain things, but since I don't use dispatch-conf, I
can't tell you how to proceed, because I don't know what options it
gives you after it has shown you the proposed changes.

Holly

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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
> you have given me plenty of info, as of right now i think im just going
> to let the config files be out dated i dont want to risk screwing
> anything up.
>
> thanks for your help
>
> nick
>

<SNIP>
(You're a great
test case for the other long thread on this subject. hope you don't
mind being a bit of a lab rat.) ;-)
<SNIP>

Nick,
I hope you didn't mind me writing this statement earlier. There is
another long thread on this subject that's been going on. There are
folks here that are quite new, and folks that are quite experienced.
It's sort of unfortunate that it takes very experienced people to make
something as good as Gentoo, and in getting there they often cannot
see how difficult and scary it is for people to be forced to pull the
trigger. My experience level is not that different from yours, I
think. Mostly I've learned to deal with this stuff through trial and
error, but the errors have been painful.

My input to you is to *not* just let thing be out of date.
Eventually that is going to burn you. A much better idea, IMO, is that
you look for an update that's in /etc/init.d/***. These are things
that I've never modified myself, so I'd expect that you haven't
either. Go through the process of getting these updated. Do not update
anything in /etc, or /etc/conf.d (or anywhere else for a while) until
you are more comfortable with what I've outlined above.

You will learn how to do this or you won't be happy with Gentoo.
It's time to take the next step. A baby step, but the next step none
the less.

Good luck,
Mark

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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:25:42 -0700
Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:

> My input to you is to *not* just let thing be out of date.
> Eventually that is going to burn you. A much better idea, IMO, is that
> you look for an update that's in /etc/init.d/***. These are things
> that I've never modified myself, so I'd expect that you haven't
> either. Go through the process of getting these updated. Do not update
> anything in /etc, or /etc/conf.d (or anywhere else for a while) until
> you are more comfortable with what I've outlined above.

I endorse that. there have been times when major config files changed in
a big way, leaving the system un-usable if you didn't fix them. I
remember getting locked out when something changed in pam authentication
that needed an etc-update to fix.


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Re: what am i suppose to do about these? [ In reply to ]
Mark Knecht wrote:

> either. Go through the process of getting these updated. Do not update
> anything in /etc, or /etc/conf.d (or anywhere else for a while) until
> you are more comfortable with what I've outlined above.

Uhm, no. *DO* accept all the updates, as long as you haven't manually
edited one of the files.

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