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What about XFCE? What version goes gentoo have in the normal tree? 4?



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From: Mark Brier [mailto:mark@brier.me.uk]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:10 AM
To: gentoo-user
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment howto?



On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 13:46, Nick Smith wrote:

Does anyone know of a how to out there on how to install enlightenment on
gentoo? Im assuming there is more to it then 'emerge enlightenment' like
what config files to edit etc. can someone point me to a good link or even
tell me the steps if they have time. I would really appreciate it.


Do you mean enlightenment-e16, or e17? If you want e16, just emerge
enlightenment, and then change your ~/.xinitrc to use it as the default
windowmanager. I don't use a displaymanger, but I think if you do, you need
to create an .Xsession entry for it.

If you're talking about e17, I wouldn't bother, as it seems to have been
dead for a while.

Fluxbox is where its at IMO :-)

Cool 4.0.6, but some parts say masked by them, does that mean they wont
install?



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From: Mark Brier [mailto:mark@brier.me.uk]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:22 AM
To: gentoo-user
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] enlightenment howto?



On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 14:17, Nick Smith wrote:

What about XFCE? What version goes gentoo have in the normal tree? 4?


Not sure, do an

# emerge -s xfce

:-)

Nick Smith wrote:

> What about XFCE? What version goes gentoo have in the normal tree? 4?
>
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* Mark Brier [mailto:mark@brier.me.uk]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:10 AM
> *To:* gentoo-user
> *Subject:* Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment howto?
>
> On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 13:46, Nick Smith wrote:
>
> /Does anyone know of a how to out there on how to install
> enlightenment on gentoo? Im assuming there is more to it then ‘emerge
> enlightenment’ like what config files to edit etc. can someone point
> me to a good link or even tell me the steps if they have time. I would
> really appreciate it./
>
>
> Do you mean enlightenment-e16, or e17? If you want e16, just emerge
> enlightenment, and then change your ~/.xinitrc to use it as the
> default windowmanager. I don't use a displaymanger, but I think if you
> do, you need to create an .Xsession entry for it.
>
> If you're talking about e17, I wouldn't bother, as it seems to have
> been dead for a while.
>
> Fluxbox is where its at IMO :-)
>
xfce, fluxbox, and icewm are all good

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On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 13:46, Nick Smith wrote:

> Does anyone know of a how to out there on how to install enlightenment
> on gentoo? Im assuming there is more to it then ‘emerge
> enlightenment’ like what config files to edit etc. can someone point
> me to a good link or even tell me the steps if they have time. I
> would really appreciate it.


Do you mean enlightenment-e16, or e17? If you want e16, just emerge
enlightenment, and then change your ~/.xinitrc to use it as the default
windowmanager. I don't use a displaymanger, but I think if you do, you
need to create an .Xsession entry for it.

If you're talking about e17, I wouldn't bother, as it seems to have been
dead for a while.

Fluxbox is where its at IMO :-)

On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 14:17, Nick Smith wrote:

> What about XFCE? What version goes gentoo have in the normal tree? 4?


Not sure, do an

# emerge -s xfce

:-)

On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 14:27, Nick Smith wrote:

> Cool 4.0.6, but some parts say masked by them, does that mean they
> wont install?


Post your output from "emerge -pv xfce"

On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 03:09:59PM +0000, Mark Brier wrote:
> If you're talking about e17, I wouldn't bother, as it seems to have
> been dead for a while.

Eh? Did you check the webpage recently? They released a preview of the
foundation libs on July 30. They're slow as hell, as usual, but not
dead.

- O

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Actually, there's not much more to it than that.

After emerge enlightenment, the only config file that you need to
modify is the one that you use to pick which windowmanager/deskto
environment you fireup with X. In my case, that's ~/.xinitrc. For
instance, to change from gnome to enlightenment, I just commented out
the exec gnome-session and added exec enlightenment.

That's really all there is to it. Most of enlightement can be
configured from the graphica configuration menus, but if you want to
customize beyond what's available in the menus, simply poke around in
~/.enlightenment.

Cheers,

Sean


----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Smith <nick@computernick.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:46:04 -0400
Subject: [gentoo-user] enlightenment howto?
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org




Does anyone know of a how to out there on how to install enlightenment
on gentoo? Im assuming there is more to it then 'emerge enlightenment'
like what config files to edit etc. can someone point me to a good
link or even tell me the steps if they have time. I would really
appreciate it.



Thanks



nick



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The thing with enlightenment is that they originally released an e17
preview AGES ago hacked together really quickly since from what i
remember there was a lot of hype for it at the time....
That failed badly since it was a rushed job so they pretty much took
all the good ideas, scrapped everything and restarted the whole thing
from scratch....
That explains the reason why it's taken so long but it seems like it
will be coming out and it seems that it will be quite impressive as
well...


On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:55:08 -0400, N. Owen Gunden <ogunden@phauna.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 03:09:59PM +0000, Mark Brier wrote:
> > If you're talking about e17, I wouldn't bother, as it seems to have
> > been dead for a while.
>
> Eh? Did you check the webpage recently? They released a preview of the
> foundation libs on July 30. They're slow as hell, as usual, but not
> dead.
>
> - O
>
>
>
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>



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Well I don't have the file in my home dir, actually I just had to MAKE MY
OWN home directory so I don't have anything in it. Why when you adduser it
doesn't so anything except add the user? Why wouldn't it make the home dirs
and all the files that are normally in it? What do I do know to make those
files? I cant make them by hand, and I have nothing to go on.... and I can
'su' to root from a normal user, every other distro ive tried you could do
this, why not gentoo? And there isn't a ~/.xinitrc in the /root folder
either, and I have ran X before from root to test it. Help please.


nick

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|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Sean Johnson [mailto:gutenpress@gmail.com]
|> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:59 AM
|> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
|> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment howto?
|>
|> Actually, there's not much more to it than that.
|>
|> After emerge enlightenment, the only config file that you need to
|> modify is the one that you use to pick which windowmanager/deskto
|> environment you fireup with X. In my case, that's ~/.xinitrc. For
|> instance, to change from gnome to enlightenment, I just commented out
|> the exec gnome-session and added exec enlightenment.
|>
|> That's really all there is to it. Most of enlightement can be
|> configured from the graphica configuration menus, but if you want to
|> customize beyond what's available in the menus, simply poke around in
|> ~/.enlightenment.
|>
|> Cheers,
|>
|> Sean
|>
|>
|> ----- Original Message -----
|> From: Nick Smith <nick@computernick.com>
|> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:46:04 -0400
|> Subject: [gentoo-user] enlightenment howto?
|> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
|>
|>
|>
|>
|> Does anyone know of a how to out there on how to install enlightenment
|> on gentoo? Im assuming there is more to it then 'emerge enlightenment'
|> like what config files to edit etc. can someone point me to a good
|> link or even tell me the steps if they have time. I would really
|> appreciate it.
|>
|>
|>
|> Thanks
|>
|>
|>
|> nick
|>
|>
|>
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Nick Smith wrote:
> Well I don't have the file in my home dir, actually I just had to MAKE MY
> OWN home directory so I don't have anything in it. Why when you adduser it
> doesn't so anything except add the user? Why wouldn't it make the home dirs
> and all the files that are normally in it? What do I do know to make those
> files? I cant make them by hand, and I have nothing to go on.... and I can
> 'su' to root from a normal user, every other distro ive tried you could do
> this, why not gentoo? And there isn't a ~/.xinitrc in the /root folder
> either, and I have ran X before from root to test it. Help please.
>
>
> nick
>

Had you looked at man useradd before running it, you would have seen:
DESCRIPTION
Creating New Users
When invoked without the -D option, the useradd command creates
a new user account using the values specified on the command line
and the default values from the system. Depending on command
line options, the useradd command will update system files and may
also create the new user's home directory and copy initial
files. The options which apply to the useradd command are:

-c comment
The new user's password file comment field.

-d home_dir
The new user will be created using home_dir as the value
for the user's login directory. The default is to append the login
name to default_home and use that as the login directory
name.


Changing the default values
When invoked with the -D option, useradd will either display the
current default values, or update the default values from the
command line. The valid options are

-b default_home
The initial path prefix for a new user's home directory.
The user's name will be affixed to the end of default_home to cre-
ate the new directory name if the -d option is not used
when creating a new account.

So apparently other distros run useradd with the -d option by default,
but I like it that Gentoo does not, so I can add Windows users to my
Samba users list without them taking up space in /home with a directory
that they won't use.

To each his or her own.

Holly




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On Sunday 19 September 2004 11:38, Nick Smith wrote:
> Well I don't have the file in my home dir, actually I just had to MAKE MY
> OWN home directory so I don't have anything in it. Why when you adduser it
> doesn't so anything except add the user? Why wouldn't it make the home dirs
> and all the files that are normally in it? What do I do know to make those
> files? I cant make them by hand, and I have nothing to go on.... and I can
> 'su' to root from a normal user, every other distro ive tried you could do
> this, why not gentoo? And there isn't a ~/.xinitrc in the /root folder
> either, and I have ran X before from root to test it. Help please.
>
>
> nick
>
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> Email - Nick@ComputerNick.com
> Web - http://www.ComputerNick.com
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> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Sean Johnson [mailto:gutenpress@gmail.com]
> |> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:59 AM
> |> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> |> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment howto?
> |>
> |> Actually, there's not much more to it than that.
> |>
> |> After emerge enlightenment, the only config file that you need to
> |> modify is the one that you use to pick which windowmanager/deskto
> |> environment you fireup with X. In my case, that's ~/.xinitrc. For
> |> instance, to change from gnome to enlightenment, I just commented out
> |> the exec gnome-session and added exec enlightenment.
> |>
> |> That's really all there is to it. Most of enlightement can be
> |> configured from the graphica configuration menus, but if you want to
> |> customize beyond what's available in the menus, simply poke around in
> |> ~/.enlightenment.
> |>
> |> Cheers,
> |>
> |> Sean
> |>
> |>
> |> ----- Original Message -----
> |> From: Nick Smith <nick@computernick.com>
> |> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:46:04 -0400
> |> Subject: [gentoo-user] enlightenment howto?
> |> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> |>
> |>
> |>
> |>
> |> Does anyone know of a how to out there on how to install enlightenment
> |> on gentoo? Im assuming there is more to it then 'emerge enlightenment'
> |> like what config files to edit etc. can someone point me to a good
> |> link or even tell me the steps if they have time. I would really
> |> appreciate it.
> |>
> |>
> |>
> |> Thanks
> |>
> |>
> |>
> |> nick
> |>
> |>
> |>
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In my experience (Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSE) I have always used KDE's adduser
tools. I, too, was a little surprised by the fact I had to manually create
the appropriate directories. There *has* to be a way ...doesn't there??
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On Sunday 19 September 2004 12:06, Holly Bostick wrote:
> Nick Smith wrote:
> > Well I don't have the file in my home dir, actually I just had to MAKE MY
> > OWN home directory so I don't have anything in it. Why when you adduser
> > it doesn't so anything except add the user? Why wouldn't it make the home
> > dirs and all the files that are normally in it? What do I do know to make
> > those files? I cant make them by hand, and I have nothing to go on....
> > and I can 'su' to root from a normal user, every other distro ive tried
> > you could do this, why not gentoo? And there isn't a ~/.xinitrc in the
> > /root folder either, and I have ran X before from root to test it. Help
> > please.
> >
> >
> > nick
>
> Had you looked at man useradd before running it, you would have seen:
> DESCRIPTION
> Creating New Users
> When invoked without the -D option, the useradd command creates
> a new user account using the values specified on the command line
> and the default values from the system. Depending on command
> line options, the useradd command will update system files and may
> also create the new user's home directory and copy initial
> files. The options which apply to the useradd command are:
>
> -c comment
> The new user's password file comment field.
>
> -d home_dir
> The new user will be created using home_dir as the value
> for the user's login directory. The default is to append the login
> name to default_home and use that as the login directory
> name.
>
>
> Changing the default values
> When invoked with the -D option, useradd will either display the
> current default values, or update the default values from the
> command line. The valid options are
>
> -b default_home
> The initial path prefix for a new user's home directory.
> The user's name will be affixed to the end of default_home to cre-
> ate the new directory name if the -d option is not used
> when creating a new account.
>
> So apparently other distros run useradd with the -d option by default,
> but I like it that Gentoo does not, so I can add Windows users to my
> Samba users list without them taking up space in /home with a directory
> that they won't use.
>
> To each his or her own.
>
> Holly
>
>
>
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I *knew* it! There IS a way. Great! Guess I'd better get back to the man
pages... <G>
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|> Had you looked at man useradd before running it, you would have seen:
|> DESCRIPTION
|> Creating New Users
|> When invoked without the -D option, the useradd command creates
|> a new user account using the values specified on the command line
|> and the default values from the system. Depending on command
|> line options, the useradd command will update system files and may
|> also create the new user's home directory and copy initial
|> files. The options which apply to the useradd command are:
|>
|> -c comment
|> The new user's password file comment field.
|>
|> -d home_dir
|> The new user will be created using home_dir as the value
|> for the user's login directory. The default is to append the login
|> name to default_home and use that as the login directory
|> name.
|>
|>
|> Changing the default values
|> When invoked with the -D option, useradd will either display the
|> current default values, or update the default values from the
|> command line. The valid options are
|>
|> -b default_home
|> The initial path prefix for a new user's home directory.
|> The user's name will be affixed to the end of default_home to cre-
|> ate the new directory name if the -d option is not used
|> when creating a new account.
|>
|> So apparently other distros run useradd with the -d option by default,
|> but I like it that Gentoo does not, so I can add Windows users to my
|> Samba users list without them taking up space in /home with a directory
|> that they won't use.
|>
|> To each his or her own.
|>
|> Holly
|>
|>
|>
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Why do I get invalid home dir when I try to do useradd -d nick?
And when I do useradd -D nick I just get the list of options like im doing
something wrong....what do I have to do to create a user with his own
directory and all the necessary files in his home dir? This is getting
annoying.



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emerge superadduser

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|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Sean Johnson [mailto:gutenpress@gmail.com]
|> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 9:33 PM
|> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
|> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment howto?
|>
|> emerge superadduser
|>
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Sweet thanks, that was what I was looking for.

nick



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> > If you're talking about e17, I wouldn't bother, as it seems to have
> > been dead for a while.
>
> Eh? Did you check the webpage recently? They released a preview of the
> foundation libs on July 30. They're slow as hell, as usual, but not
> dead.

the efl (e foundation libraries) are doing fine, but e17 itself is broken.
has been for quite some time. iirc, they decided to leave the wm broken
while they finalize and polish the efl. that way they shouldn't have to
worry about a moving target in the efl. that seems to be one of the
things that was slowing dev of e17 down a couple years ago.

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