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Re: is gcc 3.4.1 official now? [ In reply to ]
> Well.. But I refuse to believe that Gentoo devs don't appreciate the value
> of testers...

<rant onTopic="almost">
As a software tester for a rather large company, I wouldn't be
surprised to find that developers - regardless of whether or not
they're _Gentoo_ developers - don't appreciate the value of testers.
One of my biggest complaints about the field I'm in is that the sheer
skill required to do the job well isn't recognized, and the field is
flooded with people who only have a quarter of the skill needed...

It drives me nuts when people minimize the amount of work it is to
properly test a piece of software, and imply that it takes less
effort/skill/training than software development does...

I, for one, appreciate the work that everyone does to keep Gentoo
solid, but given the relative quietness of the gentoo-qa mailing list,
I have to wonder how much actual testing is going on. By "actual
testing", I'm not trying to minimize the effort involved in checking
out an unstable ebuild to see if it works: I'm talking about ensuring
that the unstable ebuild works *well*, which is a radically different
topic.

Whether or not a piece of software runs is a good question to answer;
whether it runs well, though, is usually far more important. Does it
work the way it's supposed to? Does it scratch the intended user's
itch? Is it easy to use? Does it perform well? The list goes on... and
on... and on...

I suppose the gist of all of this is that testing is never as simple
as installing a piece of software, and kudos to everyone who actually
tries to improve the software we're all using...
</rant>

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Re: is gcc 3.4.1 official now? [ In reply to ]
On Thursday 16 September 2004 02:02 pm, Mac wrote:
> This is a home server for my own, behind a firewall.
> I separate the workstation and the server functions between two machines
> (my wife must use windowser, some file/scanner/printer/internet sharing
> and some other stuff.
>

Gee... sounds just like home. I've got a linux firewall doing server duties
like mail and samba, etc.

> By the way, what is the challenge in x86? :))))))))))
>

In x86? Not that much.... in ~x86... sometimes, rarely, you'll get a bleeding
edge package that won't play right...






> 2004-09-16, cs keltezéssel 04:03-kor Spider ezt írta:
> > begin quote
> > On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:14:31 +0200
> >
> > Patrick Börjesson <psycho@rift.ath.cx> wrote:
> > > On 04/09/15(Wed) 19:55, Mac wrote:
> > > > I have several problems with the "new" gcc.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > I'm getting angry, because I want to set up my epia 800 mobo as
> > > > server,
> > > > but it takes a very long time :/
> > >
> > > One recommendation would be to _not_ use ~x86 if you want stable
> > > software (as you should on a server)...
> >
> > Let it break, its educational.
> >
> > //S
>
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