Mailing List Archive: Not placing /proc in /etc/fstab

Not placing /proc in /etc/fstab

Jul 27, 2007, 12:05 PM

Post #1 of 5 (2426 views)

Per bug #186814, Gentoo users don't have to place /proc in their
/etc/fstab anymore. The /sbin/rc script automatically mounts /proc
anyway (unless you set RC_USE_FSTAB="yes" in /etc/conf.d/rc which
isn't the default).

That said, I'd rather let this remain in /etc/fstab. First, it doesn't
hurt. Second, it might confuse users if it isn't set (particularly
sparc users who need to mount /proc/openprom but not /proc). And
third: it is not because /sbin/rc by default mounts it that we don't
have to document it anymore.

For instance, if rc suddenly started checking the content of every
partition to decide where to mount it (partitions with home
directories -> /home, partitions with application data -> /usr, etc.)
users wouldn't need to fill in /etc/fstab anymore (okay, crude and
surreal example) even though this file is very important for a Linux
system.

So I rather let this remain in the handbook. If that's okay for you
guys, I'll say so in the bug and leave it as-is.

Wkr,
Sven Vermeulen
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Re: Not placing /proc in /etc/fstab [ In reply to ]

nightmorph at gentoo

Jul 27, 2007, 8:36 PM

Post #2 of 5 (2368 views)

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Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> stuff

I agree; I think it should continue to be documented. /sbin/rc's
behavior has changed and continues to change over time. It's better to
leave it in where it _may_ be unnecessary in some cases than to take it
out entirely.

May as well go ahead and mark that bug reso worksforme or wontfix.

Re: Not placing /proc in /etc/fstab [ In reply to ]

vapier at gentoo

Jul 27, 2007, 10:17 PM

Post #3 of 5 (2375 views)

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On Friday 27 July 2007, Josh Saddler wrote:
> Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> > stuff
>
> I agree; I think it should continue to be documented. /sbin/rc's
> behavior has changed and continues to change over time. It's better to
> leave it in where it _may_ be unnecessary in some cases than to take it
> out entirely.
>
> May as well go ahead and mark that bug reso worksforme or wontfix.

going from the "not doing it automatically" to the "doing it automatically" is
transparent for everyone ... baselayout hasnt required /proc in /etc/fstab in
a *very* *very* long time (if ever actually). if we were to start requiring
people to put critical stuff into /etc/fstab where we didnt before then we'd
certainly open a docs bug and make it get tracked and such, so i dont think
that's an issue at all.

i'd remove any mention of /proc /sys /dev /dev/shm from the handbook since a
user trying to tweak these mount options would be mightly confused by them
being blatantly ignored by default.
-mike

Re: Not placing /proc in /etc/fstab [ In reply to ]

swift at gentoo

Jul 28, 2007, 12:23 PM

Post #4 of 5 (2389 views)

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On 7/28/07, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> i'd remove any mention of /proc /sys /dev /dev/shm from the handbook since a
> user trying to tweak these mount options would be mightly confused by them
> being blatantly ignored by default.

Also true.

Wkr,
Sven Vermeulen
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gentoo-doc@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: Not placing /proc in /etc/fstab [ In reply to ]

vapier at gentoo

Jul 28, 2007, 1:01 PM

Post #5 of 5 (2379 views)

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On Saturday 28 July 2007, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> On 7/28/07, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > i'd remove any mention of /proc /sys /dev /dev/shm from the handbook
> > since a user trying to tweak these mount options would be mightly
> > confused by them being blatantly ignored by default.
>
> Also true.

thinking about it, i'll update our default /etc/fstab to give some hints along
these lines ... but the way baselayout works is that anyone upgrading will
never see these as /etc/fstab is only installed if it didnt exist ...
-mike

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