Mailing List Archive: Bye Gentoo!

Bye Gentoo!

kloeri at gentoo

May 30, 2007, 6:35 PM

Post #1 of 19 (1616 views)

It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
retiring from
Gentoo.

I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least
pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo during that
time. I've had a lot of fun but my frustrations have grown these past several
months and I've been entertaining the idea about retiring from Gentoo for
probably 6 months now. The past couple months the desire to leave Gentoo have
become much stronger and I think it's finally time for me and Gentoo to go our
separate ways.

I think I've put my "fingerprint" on Gentoo in quite a few important ways but
lately I've come to the realization that I probably can't do any more for
Gentoo. No matter how hard I try fighting for what I feel is right we seem to
end up with petty fights, flamewars or what I consider even worse - people
simply ignore what I'm working hard towards.

So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking for
another project where I can contribute something important and not just try to
keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds with to an ever
increasing degree.

I'll try to reach all the projects I'm leaving over the next few days and see
if I can pass on my work in a reasonable manner. I probably won't be around
much on irc but if you really need to contact me you can do so at
bryan.ostergaard@gmail.com.

Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for you as
it used to be for me.

Best regards,
Bryan Østergaard
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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

araujo at gentoo

May 30, 2007, 6:44 PM

Post #2 of 19 (1599 views)

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Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.
>
> I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least
> pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo during that
> time. I've had a lot of fun but my frustrations have grown these past
> several
> months and I've been entertaining the idea about retiring from Gentoo for
> probably 6 months now. The past couple months the desire to leave Gentoo
> have
> become much stronger and I think it's finally time for me and Gentoo to
> go our
> separate ways.
>
> I think I've put my "fingerprint" on Gentoo in quite a few important
> ways but
> lately I've come to the realization that I probably can't do any more for
> Gentoo. No matter how hard I try fighting for what I feel is right we
> seem to
> end up with petty fights, flamewars or what I consider even worse - people
> simply ignore what I'm working hard towards.
>
> So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking for
> another project where I can contribute something important and not just
> try to
> keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds with to an ever
> increasing degree.
>
> I'll try to reach all the projects I'm leaving over the next few days
> and see
> if I can pass on my work in a reasonable manner. I probably won't be around
> much on irc but if you really need to contact me you can do so at
> bryan.ostergaard@gmail.com.
>
> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for
> you as
> it used to be for me.
>
> Best regards,
> Bryan Østergaard

Sad to see you go Bryan,

You were one of the first Gentoo developers i met, and you were really a
great help to get me started in this community; i bet many people owe
you the same ....

Thanks and i wish you luck in your future projects,

P.S: Wouldn't you just like to take the Gentoo-one-month-off vacation to
relax a bit?

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Luis F. Araujo "araujo at gentoo.org"
Gentoo Linux

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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

ciaranm at ciaranm

May 30, 2007, 7:01 PM

Post #3 of 19 (1608 views)

On Thu, 31 May 2007 03:35:20 +0200
"Bryan Ã˜stergaard" <kloeri@gentoo.org> wrote:
> So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking
> for another project where I can contribute something important and
> not just try to keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds
> with to an ever increasing degree.

Sad to see one of the few remaining sane people leave. But equally, I'm
really looking forward to seeing your next project.

--
Ciaran McCreesh

Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

genone at gentoo

May 30, 2007, 7:09 PM

Post #4 of 19 (1612 views)

On Thu, 31 May 2007 03:35:20 +0200
"Bryan Østergaard" <kloeri@gentoo.org> wrote:

> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from Gentoo.

I usually don't participate in all the welcome/goodbye threads, but
you're one of the few people I'm really sad to see leaving. But with
the constant mobbing going on I can certainly understand the
decision.
Hope to see you back someday.

Marius

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In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be
Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better.

Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

mrness at gentoo

May 30, 2007, 8:16 PM

Post #5 of 19 (1609 views)

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Bryan Ã˜stergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm
> finally retiring from Gentoo.
I'm sorry to see another key developer leaving Gentoo. :(
I hope you'll come back someday... ;)
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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

May 30, 2007, 9:56 PM

Post #6 of 19 (1611 views)

On Thu, 31 May 2007 03:35:20 +0200
"Bryan Østergaard" <kloeri@gentoo.org> wrote:

> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.
>
> I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at
> least pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo
> during that time. I've had a lot of fun but my frustrations have
> grown these past several months and I've been entertaining the idea
> about retiring from Gentoo for probably 6 months now. The past couple
> months the desire to leave Gentoo have become much stronger and I
> think it's finally time for me and Gentoo to go our separate ways.
>
> I think I've put my "fingerprint" on Gentoo in quite a few important
> ways but lately I've come to the realization that I probably can't do
> any more for Gentoo. No matter how hard I try fighting for what I
> feel is right we seem to end up with petty fights, flamewars or what
> I consider even worse - people simply ignore what I'm working hard
> towards.
>
> So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking
> for another project where I can contribute something important and
> not just try to keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds
> with to an ever increasing degree.
>
> I'll try to reach all the projects I'm leaving over the next few days
> and see if I can pass on my work in a reasonable manner. I probably
> won't be around much on irc but if you really need to contact me you
> can do so at bryan.ostergaard@gmail.com.
>
> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for
> you as it used to be for me.
>
> Best regards,
> Bryan Østergaard

Sad to see you go... 'tis gonna be strange without you around...
Best of luck with whatever you go to do next.

welp

Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

dertobi123 at gentoo

May 30, 2007, 11:25 PM

Post #7 of 19 (1610 views)

Bryan Ã˜stergaard wrote:
> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for you as
> it used to be for me.

Just as Marius already said, I usually also don't participate in the
"goodbye and thanks for all the fish"-threads - but this one is kinda
special. Bryan is one of the few non-German Gentoo Developers I met
several times and we had much fun every time - at least this was my
impression.

I was already looking forward for meeting you again at the UK Meeting in
July ... so ... yeah ... I'm really sad to see you go :( For whatever
you're doing next I'd wish you as much luck and fun as I can.

Thanks for your contributions and being an important part of Gentoo in
the past few years!

Tobias

Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

jaervosz at gentoo

May 30, 2007, 11:32 PM

Post #8 of 19 (1608 views)

Hi Bryan,

On Thursday 31 May 2007 03:35, Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.

Thanks for all the work you've done for Gentoo, I know it's not always been
fun. Good luck with your future projects and please do keep us posted
somehow :-).

--
Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen (Jaervosz)

Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

solar at gentoo

May 31, 2007, 12:05 AM

Post #9 of 19 (1606 views)

On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 03:35 +0200, Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.
>
> I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least
> pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo during that
> time. I've had a lot of fun but my frustrations have grown these past several
> months and I've been entertaining the idea about retiring from Gentoo for
> probably 6 months now. The past couple months the desire to leave Gentoo have
> become much stronger and I think it's finally time for me and Gentoo to go our
> separate ways.
>
> I think I've put my "fingerprint" on Gentoo in quite a few important ways but
> lately I've come to the realization that I probably can't do any more for
> Gentoo. No matter how hard I try fighting for what I feel is right we seem to
> end up with petty fights, flamewars or what I consider even worse - people
> simply ignore what I'm working hard towards.
>
> So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking for
> another project where I can contribute something important and not just try to
> keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds with to an ever
> increasing degree.
>
> I'll try to reach all the projects I'm leaving over the next few days and see
> if I can pass on my work in a reasonable manner. I probably won't be around
> much on irc but if you really need to contact me you can do so at
> bryan.ostergaard@gmail.com.
>
> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for you as
> it used to be for me.
>
> Best regards,
> Bryan Østergaard

I'm going to punch you in the ribs really hard if I ever meet you. I
count on a few people in this project and you are one of them. I'm
really disappointed you are rolling out on us without no for warning. I
can understand your frustration and all but I expected and assumed you
had big balls.. None the less. I wish you the best in your future
endeavors.

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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

ciaranm at ciaranm

May 31, 2007, 12:47 AM

Post #10 of 19 (1608 views)

On Thu, 31 May 2007 00:05:13 -0700
Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I can understand your frustration and all but I expected and assumed
> you had big balls..

It takes more balls to go against the prevailing stagnation than to
just sit by idly and remain content with the situation no matter how
bad it is...

--
Ciaran McCreesh

Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

nelchael at gentoo

May 31, 2007, 12:54 AM

Post #11 of 19 (1599 views)

Bryan Ã˜stergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.

I'm sad to see you go :( You've helped me a lot (in fact very, very much) to be
a good developer. Maybe it's possible for you to take a few weeks off instead of
permanently leaving Gentoo? Just like Luis suggested?

--
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desktop-misc, desktop-dock, x86, java, apache, ppc...

Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

solar at gentoo

May 31, 2007, 1:32 AM

Post #12 of 19 (1610 views)

On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 08:47 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 00:05:13 -0700
> Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > I can understand your frustration and all but I expected and assumed
> > you had big balls..
>
> It takes more balls to go against the prevailing stagnation than to
> just sit by idly and remain content with the situation no matter how
> bad it is...

perhaps sometimes yes.. None the less I dislike losing core people so
quickly who helped out on the back-end to keep things flowing ..
He will be missed for sure.

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Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org>

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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

gurligebis at gentoo

May 31, 2007, 1:37 AM

Post #13 of 19 (1609 views)

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Really sad to see you go :-(

You where the one who got me into this mess.
Well, good luck to you where ever you may go.

Any chance on you coming back later on?

Bjarke / GurliGebis

Bryan Østergaard skrev:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.
>
> I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least
> pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo during that
> time. I've had a lot of fun but my frustrations have grown these past
> several
> months and I've been entertaining the idea about retiring from Gentoo for
> probably 6 months now. The past couple months the desire to leave Gentoo
> have
> become much stronger and I think it's finally time for me and Gentoo to
> go our
> separate ways.
>
> I think I've put my "fingerprint" on Gentoo in quite a few important
> ways but
> lately I've come to the realization that I probably can't do any more for
> Gentoo. No matter how hard I try fighting for what I feel is right we
> seem to
> end up with petty fights, flamewars or what I consider even worse - people
> simply ignore what I'm working hard towards.
>
> So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking for
> another project where I can contribute something important and not just
> try to
> keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds with to an ever
> increasing degree.
>
> I'll try to reach all the projects I'm leaving over the next few days
> and see
> if I can pass on my work in a reasonable manner. I probably won't be around
> much on irc but if you really need to contact me you can do so at
> bryan.ostergaard@gmail.com.
>
> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for
> you as
> it used to be for me.
>
> Best regards,
> Bryan Østergaard

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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

gustavoz at gentoo

May 31, 2007, 6:41 AM

Post #14 of 19 (1605 views)

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Bryan Østergaard wrote:

> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for
> you as it used to be for me.

+1 from the "i usually don't wave goodbye" crowd.
Sad to see you go.

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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

ba1020 at homie

May 31, 2007, 12:19 PM

Post #15 of 19 (1602 views)

Bryan Østergaard schrieb:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.
>

i want you to stay, you are important for Gentoo

but what can I do

Juergen
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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

benno.schulenberg at gmail

May 31, 2007, 1:44 PM

Post #16 of 19 (1604 views)

Juergen.Schinker wrote:
> Bryan Østergaard schrieb:
> > It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm
> > finally retiring from
> > Gentoo.

Aj! kloeri! No!

> i want you to stay, you are important for Gentoo
>
> but what can I do

Bribe him!

Benno
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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

christel at gentoo

Jun 5, 2007, 5:58 PM

Post #17 of 19 (1613 views)

On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 03:35 +0200, Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.
>
> I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least
> pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo during that
> time. I've had a lot of fun but my frustrations have grown these past several
> months and I've been entertaining the idea about retiring from Gentoo for
> probably 6 months now. The past couple months the desire to leave Gentoo have
> become much stronger and I think it's finally time for me and Gentoo to go our
> separate ways.
>
> I think I've put my "fingerprint" on Gentoo in quite a few important ways but
> lately I've come to the realization that I probably can't do any more for
> Gentoo. No matter how hard I try fighting for what I feel is right we seem to
> end up with petty fights, flamewars or what I consider even worse - people
> simply ignore what I'm working hard towards.
>
> So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking for
> another project where I can contribute something important and not just try to
> keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds with to an ever
> increasing degree.
>
> I'll try to reach all the projects I'm leaving over the next few days and see
> if I can pass on my work in a reasonable manner. I probably won't be around
> much on irc but if you really need to contact me you can do so at
> bryan.ostergaard@gmail.com.
>
> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for you as
> it used to be for me.

Bryan,
It's been a pleasure working with you and getting to know you this past
year and a half. I've learnt a lot and you've been a rock, you've been
inspirational and motivational.. You've been a great mentor in many
aspects and an amazing friend.

I look forward to working with you further on the other two OSS projects
we are involved with together and I hope you made the right decision
when you chose to step down.

Christelx

Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

slong at rathaus

Jun 17, 2008, 1:20 AM

Post #18 of 19 (1609 views)

Oh man, I would just like to add my voice to the chorus asking for you to
reconsider after a suitable break to recharge.

(And not just because you're one of the best bug-fixers around.)

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Re: Bye Gentoo! [ In reply to ]

holger at wizards

Jun 17, 2008, 1:20 AM

Post #19 of 19 (1610 views)

On Thu, 31 May 2007 22:44:45 +0200, Benno Schulenberg wrote:

> Juergen.Schinker wrote:
>> Bryan Østergaard schrieb:
>> > It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
>> > retiring from
>> > Gentoo.
>
> Aj! kloeri! No!
>
>> i want you to stay, you are important for Gentoo
>>
>> but what can I do
>
> Bribe him!

Make him use RedHat Enterprise!

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