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+<h1>Forrest dream list</h1>
+<h3>Overview</h3>
+<div id="front-matter">
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+ This is documentation for development version v0.10-dev
+ (<a href="http://forrest.apache.org/versions/">More</a>)</div>
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+<a href="#Draft+dream+list">Draft dream list</a>
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+<div class="section">
+<p>
+ This is the initial attempt to give focus to the Forrest project. This
+ summary is a loose collection of items from the forrest-dev mailing
+ list. Please add and re-arrange so that it can evolve into a focus
+ document. The <a href="../docs_0_100/primer.html">Forrest Primer</a> provides an
+ overview.
+ </p>
+<p>
+ These are the email threads and documents that are currently being
+ summarised. Please see those documents for further detail.
+ </p>
+<ul>
+
+<li>
+ [RT] my Forrest dream-list
+ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002
+ <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101431895118349">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101431895118349</a>
+ [done]
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ README
+ [FIXME: not yet started summarising]
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ [phases] Forrest
+ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002
+ <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101445744931104">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101445744931104</a>
+ [FIXME: not yet started summarising]
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ adding to the dream list
+ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002
+ <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101620970016263">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101620970016263</a>
+ [FIXME: not yet started summarising]
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ analysis paralysis :-)
+ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002
+ <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101465344708301">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101465344708301</a>
+ [FIXME: not yet started summarising]
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ documentation architecture?
+ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002
+ <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101973705501466">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101973705501466</a>
+ [FIXME: not yet started summarising]
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ Topic Maps for Forrest ?
+ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002
+ <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101647290524645">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101647290524645</a>
+ [FIXME: not yet started summarising]
+ </li>
+
+</ul>
+</div>
+
+<a name="Draft+dream+list"></a>
+<h2 class="underlined_10">Draft dream list</h2>
+<div class="section">
+<ul>
+
+<li>
+ Forrest provides a robust technological infrastructure for open software development for the Apache Software Foundation based on ASF software, ASF practices and experience, and modern software design principles.
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ a publishing system for documentation
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ analysis of logs and publishing of results
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+Ok, first of all: "it hurts my spirit" (I should TM this) to see the
+apache web sites with such a *poor* information infrastructure. Just
+look at sourceforge: it's not the best site of the world, but gives you
+lots of tools and information that we currently don't have (or have
+hidden someplace).
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+I want Forrest to be the development infrastructure of your dreams,
+something that you'll be proud of showing your boss and say "if only we
+had this in place, we would save big bucks" so...
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ Dream #1: Forrest should make Sourceforge look obsolete.
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+So, in order for this to happen, it must be dynamic.
+Assumption #1: Forrest is a dynamic site.
+The staticity of apache web sites was mostly due to the quest for heavy
+mirroring, Forrest should allow mirroring, so
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ Dream #2: Forrest should reduce xml.apache.org bandwidth use dramatically
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ Dream #3: Forrest should automate mirroring in a simple and easy way.
+
+My idea is to use the 'command line' features of Cocoon to generate
+static snapshots of sites and produce mirrors directly using a sort of
+rsync or other mean. Anyway, the goal is to make sure mirroring is as
+easy as possible. No, easier than that.
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ coherence: all the site should look coherent, same graphics, same
+look-and-feel, same information in the same locations, coherent and nice URI
+space (build to last! so that broken links are reduced!)
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ structure: the site should look professional, the structure should be
+flexible enough to fit every need but solid enough to guide users
+browsing and developers adding resources
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ scalability
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ functionality: everything you ever wanted to have in your project web site
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ logs and community rating: I want to have numbers to judge the value
+of a community/effort
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+Downloads, number of committers, numbers of people subscribed on the users/dev
+list, numbers of mail messages / week on these lists, CVS activity...
+These are the kind of parameters I use to "judge" an Apache project that I
+have not been looking into before.
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ Graphs of various statistics.
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+Having good site metrics will be a valuable aid to those involved in
+maintenance and future re-design phases.
+See some discussion in
+<a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=102238816218885">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=102238816218885</a>
+</li>
+
+<li>
+ Built-in search engine: users much have a simple way to find things.
+ Lucene.
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ User-writable pages: people should have a way to add things to the pages.
+ See the thread for more detail on this.
+FIXME: get MARC ref
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ short bios for the project committers, with pictures: gives a better
+sense of community. Having a weblog there would be great.
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ news, announcements, events and project calendaring: the news and
+the announcements will generate a RSS feed, events will be aggregated
+into a project-wide calendar, or an effort-specific calendar, the events
+will also be overwritten on the logs, to indicate how logs were
+influenced by the events (say, a release or a new committer added)
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ book-like PDF versions of documentation: easy to print out docs.
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ integration with GUMP: dependencies, runs, committer that broke the run
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ javadocs seemlessly integrated with the documentation and with the
+search engine.
+ <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101620970016263">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&amp;m=101620970016263</a>
+</li>
+
+<li>
+ mail archive seemlessly integrated with the search engine (one should
+look for something and get results from either docs, javadocs or emails
+messages)
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ coherent-looking CVS view
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ document translation using Google translation services
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ Integrated project management, task management, bug tracking, feature requests, process management.
+The idea is to integrate Scarab for bug tracking/patches and
+managing/feature requests.
+(As far as team management, this is a serious political issue and I do not
+want to tackle that one yet, not even on the dreamlist.)
+ </li>
+
+<li>
+ overview doco for all projects ... CVS Usage precis, overview of opensource
+ and links to relevant doco
+ </li>
+
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