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Future of DBMail ?
Hi all & especially Paul ;)

Hope you all are having a good start into the new year.

I just thought it would be nice to know if there are any plans for
DBMail's future (or lack thereof?)

I was going to check git.dbmail.eu, but it seems it is not working
anymore?
the only thing i found was paul's dbmail repo on github, which i assume
to be the current up2date one.

Is DBmail going to be maintained/"supported"/developed further at all,
or do we need to consider it to be in need of a new Maintainer /
dev(group) ?

-- not trying to offend anyone here, so if I missed somethign just point
it out please, but I am a bit worried about the future (since I am using
dbmail both for my private mail server and at work too).

Regards,
Thomas Raschbacher
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Re: Future of DBMail ? [ In reply to ]
Hi,

On 08/01/2018 15:52, Thomas Raschbacher wrote:
> Hi all & especially Paul ;)
>
> Hope you all are having a good start into the new year.
>
> I just thought it would be nice to know if there are any plans for
> DBMail's future (or lack thereof?)
Plans, or at least ideas, yes. dbmail would benefit from ability to
handle multiple requests per session.
There is an outstanding task to fix the MySQL 5.7 (showstopper) bug.

>
> I was going to check git.dbmail.eu, but it seems it is not working anymore?
> the only thing i found was paul's dbmail repo on github, which i assume
> to be the current up2date one.
There is a fork at https://github.com/alan-hicks/dbmail

>
> Is DBmail going to be maintained/"supported"/developed further at all,
> or do we need to consider it to be in need of a new Maintainer /
> dev(group) ?
Dbmail is stable and requires very little maintenance.
Contributors always welcome!
Personal contributions are likely to be llimited, the UK is not
currently a great place to be unless you are in the top 5%.

>
> -- not trying to offend anyone here, so if I missed somethign just point
> it out please, but I am a bit worried about the future (since I am using
> dbmail both for my private mail server and at work too).
I'm still using dbmail here and it's proven resilient and reliable. I've
not found a database backed equivalent so intend to continue.

As it's open source, you have access to the source code.

Regards,
Alan

>
> Regards,
>   Thomas Raschbacher
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Re: Future of DBMail ? [ In reply to ]
On 2018-01-08 18:01, Alan Hicks wrote:
> Plans, or at least ideas, yes. dbmail would benefit from ability to
> handle multiple requests per session.
> There is an outstanding task to fix the MySQL 5.7 (showstopper) bug.

Nice to hear.

>>
>> I was going to check git.dbmail.eu, but it seems it is not working
>> anymore?
>> the only thing i found was paul's dbmail repo on github, which i
>> assume to be the current up2date one.
> There is a fork at https://github.com/alan-hicks/dbmail

I see. Does that mean you are filling in for Paul, or "taking over"(not
in a hostile way of course)

>
>>
>> Is DBmail going to be maintained/"supported"/developed further at all,
>> or do we need to consider it to be in need of a new Maintainer /
>> dev(group) ?
> Dbmail is stable and requires very little maintenance.
indeed it works well for me (still doing the regular daemon restarts to
be on the safe side but that's fine)
> Contributors always welcome!

gladly would help if I had the time tbh ^^ - what I think I could
probably help with time wise would be in sorting out some old stuff on
the webpage,..

> Personal contributions are likely to be llimited, the UK is not
> currently a great place to be unless you are in the top 5%.
>
>>
>> -- not trying to offend anyone here, so if I missed somethign just
>> point it out please, but I am a bit worried about the future (since I
>> am using dbmail both for my private mail server and at work too).
> I'm still using dbmail here and it's proven resilient and reliable.
> I've not found a database backed equivalent so intend to continue.
>
> As it's open source, you have access to the source code.
>
indeed, and i've read some parts of it and am fairly familiar with the
DB structure itself, but if there were any real problems I wouldn't be
able to quickly find it probably which is why I wrote this email ;)
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Re: Future of DBMail ? [ In reply to ]
On 2018-01-08 18:01, Alan Hicks wrote:

>> I was going to check git.dbmail.eu, but it seems it is not working anymore?
>> the only thing i found was paul's dbmail repo on github, which i assume to be the current up2date one.
> There is a fork at https://github.com/alan-hicks/dbmail

This is a super-cool news!

Just out of curiosity, have you considered committing the fix back as PR
to the main branch?

Forking is always a bad choice, maybe we can ask Paul to add someone
else as a Contributor to the main project.

I'm stating that because a lot of official repositories (say FreeBSD's
ports, for example) refer to the main repo...

I have a few fixes to commit too, I just need to find some time to clean
them up.
Re: Future of DBMail ? [ In reply to ]
On 09/01/2018 06:21, Thomas Raschbacher wrote:
> On 2018-01-08 18:01, Alan Hicks wrote:
>> Plans, or at least ideas, yes. dbmail would benefit from ability to
>> handle multiple requests per session.
>> There is an outstanding task to fix the MySQL 5.7 (showstopper) bug.
>
> Nice to hear.
>
>>>
>>> I was going to check git.dbmail.eu, but it seems it is not working
>>> anymore?
>>> the only thing i found was paul's dbmail repo on github, which i
>>> assume to be the current up2date one.
>> There is a fork at https://github.com/alan-hicks/dbmail
>
> I see. Does that mean you are filling in for Paul, or "taking over"(not
> in a hostile way of course)
I've only ever contributed, and sadly not much. Paul usually accepts any
diffs or pull requests. I used to be the FreeBSD port maintainer, but
due to lack of time, felt it best to relinquish the role. I'm unlikely
to have much time to maintain dbmail so not looking to do more than
offer occasional patches.

>
>>
>>>
>>> Is DBmail going to be maintained/"supported"/developed further at
>>> all, or do we need to consider it to be in need of a new Maintainer /
>>> dev(group) ?
>> Dbmail is stable and requires very little maintenance.
> indeed it works well for me (still doing the regular daemon restarts to
> be on the safe side but that's fine)
>> Contributors always welcome!
>
> gladly would help if I had the time tbh ^^ - what I think I could
> probably help with time wise would be in sorting out some old stuff on
> the webpage,..
Paul is the contact for anything to do with the website and the issue
tracker.

>
>> Personal contributions are likely to be llimited, the UK is not
>> currently a great place to be unless you are in the top 5%.
>>
>>>
>>> -- not trying to offend anyone here, so if I missed somethign just
>>> point it out please, but I am a bit worried about the future (since I
>>> am using dbmail both for my private mail server and at work too).
>> I'm still using dbmail here and it's proven resilient and reliable.
>> I've not found a database backed equivalent so intend to continue.
>>
>> As it's open source, you have access to the source code.
>>
> indeed, and i've read some parts of it and am fairly familiar with the
> DB structure itself, but if there were any real problems I wouldn't be
> able to quickly find it probably which is why I wrote this email ;)
>
Always happy to help, I'm a DBA so can sort most database issues, and
familiar with the code so would be able to identify and fix most
straightforward issues.
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