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This seems to be fixed as of Thunderbird 3.1 with Lightning 1.0b2; so I
suggest you upgrade now.

Regards,
Norbert P?schel

Am 28.06.10 17:05, schrieb Marc Patermann:
> Hi,
>
> Andrew McMillan schrieb am 22.04.2010 12:05 Uhr:
>> On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 18:47 +0200, Edi ?UC wrote:
>
>>> I'm using DAViCal 0.9.9-0 on Debian Lenny. The client side is
>>> Thunderbird 3.0 w/ Lightning 1.0b1 (Linux). I can't make the
>>> invitations working. I've tried everything that came to mind, but I
>>> never get an invitation mail from the event creator. I've set full
>>> permissions (default and/or principal) to both parties. I've sent
>>> invitations to users with the calendar in DAViCal (free/busy is
>>> working) and to users that don't. Nobody gets the invitation. I don't
>>> know where else to look. Where can I get more information on how the
>>> invitation system works. Who is responsible for sending invitations
>>> (the DAViCal server or the client - Lightning/Thunderbird)?
>>
>> With Lightning (as I understand it) the mail client should be sending
>> the invitation message - it isn't done on the server, and they have not
>> yet implemented support for CalDAV scheduling, although there have been
>> plans to for some time.
>>
>>
>>> The interesting part is, that this feature seemed to work a week ago
>>> when I installed the system for testing (I've sent an invitation to
>>> myself and I received an email). Now even if I invite myself I don't
>>> get the mail.
>>
>> It is possible that in adding the support for server-side invitation
>> processing, that something is going wrong with lightning, both failing
>> to correctly do the server-side process, and also failing to realise it
>> should do it client-side :-(
>>
>> I'll see if I can duplicate the problem here.
>>
>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Exactly what the Mozilla folk are saying too! :-)
> I have to come back to this.
> It occurs to me that Lightning 0.9 (TB 2.0.0.x) can not /accept/
> invitations to Davical calendars. In the accept dialog there are only
> local calendars displayed, none of the Davical calendars. If there is
> only one local calendar and Davical calendar, Lighting picks the local
> one without asking.
> Is this related to this issue?
> How to avoid this, can I deactivate the "support for server-side
> invitation processing"? [Even in Lightning maybe.]
> As it is, this is really bad. :(
>
>
> Marc
>

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I am running

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608
Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1

and still cannot send any invitations by email. Is there a way to debug
this?

There is nothing on the Thunderbird error console, and I am wondering
where the email would get send from: Davical or Thunderbird via the default
SMTP servers?

Thanks, Achim

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:27:22 +0200, Norbert P?schel
<norbert.pueschel at networker-gmbh.de> wrote:
> This seems to be fixed as of Thunderbird 3.1 with Lightning 1.0b2; so I
> suggest you upgrade now.
>
> Regards,
> Norbert P?schel
>
> Am 28.06.10 17:05, schrieb Marc Patermann:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Andrew McMillan schrieb am 22.04.2010 12:05 Uhr:
>>> On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 18:47 +0200, Edi ?UC wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm using DAViCal 0.9.9-0 on Debian Lenny. The client side is
>>>> Thunderbird 3.0 w/ Lightning 1.0b1 (Linux). I can't make the
>>>> invitations working. I've tried everything that came to mind, but I
>>>> never get an invitation mail from the event creator. I've set full
>>>> permissions (default and/or principal) to both parties. I've sent
>>>> invitations to users with the calendar in DAViCal (free/busy is
>>>> working) and to users that don't. Nobody gets the invitation. I don't
>>>> know where else to look. Where can I get more information on how the
>>>> invitation system works. Who is responsible for sending invitations
>>>> (the DAViCal server or the client - Lightning/Thunderbird)?
>>>
>>> With Lightning (as I understand it) the mail client should be sending
>>> the invitation message - it isn't done on the server, and they have
not
>>> yet implemented support for CalDAV scheduling, although there have
been
>>> plans to for some time.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The interesting part is, that this feature seemed to work a week ago
>>>> when I installed the system for testing (I've sent an invitation to
>>>> myself and I received an email). Now even if I invite myself I don't
>>>> get the mail.
>>>
>>> It is possible that in adding the support for server-side invitation
>>> processing, that something is going wrong with lightning, both failing
>>> to correctly do the server-side process, and also failing to realise
it
>>> should do it client-side :-(
>>>
>>> I'll see if I can duplicate the problem here.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Exactly what the Mozilla folk are saying too! :-)
>> I have to come back to this.
>> It occurs to me that Lightning 0.9 (TB 2.0.0.x) can not /accept/
>> invitations to Davical calendars. In the accept dialog there are only
>> local calendars displayed, none of the Davical calendars. If there is
>> only one local calendar and Davical calendar, Lighting picks the local
>> one without asking.
>> Is this related to this issue?
>> How to avoid this, can I deactivate the "support for server-side
>> invitation processing"? [Even in Lightning maybe.]
>> As it is, this is really bad. :(

Am 29.06.2010 16:49, schrieb Achim:
> I am running
>
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608
> Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1
>
> and still cannot send any invitations by email. Is there a way to debug
> this?
>
> There is nothing on the Thunderbird error console, and I am wondering
> where the email would get send from: Davical or Thunderbird via the default
> SMTP servers?
>
> Thanks, Achim
>
>
same problem here with thunderbird 3.0.5 and 3.1, using davical 0.9.9.
When I add an email-Address to the invite-list, then lightning shows the
users in the event-view. But the activated check-box ist greyed-out.
(The checkbox where I normally could decide, whether i want to invite
the people via e-mail or not)

The interessting thing is:
When I remove my calender from my thunderbird+lightning, and replace it
by my old davical server URL, then the checkbox is not greyed out!

So the behavior of Thunderbird+Lightning depends on the davical version
resp. the available caldav features...

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Hello Markus:

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:37:24 +0200, Markus Tallowitz
<MTallowitz at sysdesign-edv.de> wrote:
> same problem here with thunderbird 3.0.5 and 3.1, using davical 0.9.9.
> When I add an email-Address to the invite-list, then lightning shows the

> users in the event-view. But the activated check-box ist greyed-out.
> (The checkbox where I normally could decide, whether i want to invite
> the people via e-mail or not)
>
> The interessting thing is:
> When I remove my calender from my thunderbird+lightning, and replace it
> by my old davical server URL, then the checkbox is not greyed out!
>
> So the behavior of Thunderbird+Lightning depends on the davical version
> resp. the available caldav features...

I have email notification working now with the following fix that Fabien
suggested a few days ago:

Change the standard dav_header from the source code by eliminating the
"calendar-auto-schedule" option. Take care to check against changes in the
standard dav_header (in htdocs/caldav.php) with every update.

$c->override_dav_header = '1, 2, access-control, calendar-access,
calendar-schedule, extended-mkcol, calendar-proxy, bind';

Another interesting observation for Lightning is that it always uses the
username for checking the calendar, *but* that you can select the address
from which te invitation originates freely from any of the identities that
yuo configured in Thunderbird.

I will post a couple of odds and ends between Lightning and iCal now.

Achim,

Achim schrieb am 30.06.2010 14:23 Uhr:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:37:24 +0200, Markus Tallowitz
> <MTallowitz at sysdesign-edv.de> wrote:
>> same problem here with thunderbird 3.0.5 and 3.1, using davical 0.9.9.
>> When I add an email-Address to the invite-list, then lightning shows the
>> users in the event-view. But the activated check-box ist greyed-out.
>> (The checkbox where I normally could decide, whether i want to invite
>> the people via e-mail or not)
> I have email notification working now with the following fix that Fabien
> suggested a few days ago:
Oh, this was in another thread as I see now.

> Change the standard dav_header from the source code by eliminating the
> "calendar-auto-schedule" option. Take care to check against changes in the
> standard dav_header (in htdocs/caldav.php) with every update.
>
> $c->override_dav_header = '1, 2, access-control, calendar-access,
> calendar-schedule, extended-mkcol, calendar-proxy, bind';
This solves my Lightning 0.9 problem, thank you!

> Another interesting observation for Lightning is that it always uses the
> username for checking the calendar, *but* that you can select the address
> from which te invitation originates freely from any of the identities that
> yuo configured in Thunderbird.
Yes, this is in the configuration wizard when setting up an calendar.
This is very useful, if you have - say - a project calendar and a
project mail account side by side with your personal ones in TB; as you
can only authenticate as one user to one davical server. You may want to
send project invitations with the project email address.


Marc