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[nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300
Hello,

is AS5300 series aware of CLIR, which signals node not to show calling line
identifier? If yes - does anybody know way how to ignore CLIR flag on
incoming from PRI calls on 5300?

Thank you.

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Re: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300 [ In reply to ]
i dont think we look at that right now. are you having any specific
problems related to clir?

joshd.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vladimir Litovka" <doka@kiev.sovam.com>
To: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:02 AM
Subject: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300


> Hello,
>
> is AS5300 series aware of CLIR, which signals node not to show calling
line
> identifier? If yes - does anybody know way how to ignore CLIR flag on
> incoming from PRI calls on 5300?
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> :r !ripewhois DOKA-RIPE
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
> -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"
>
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Re: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300 [ In reply to ]
We provide pre-paid dialup and have big problem with spammers - they buy
the most cheap card, launch SPAM and then never use this login. We are
maintaining content-based filtering (for well-known spam mails) and phone
blacklist, where stored phones of all "our" spammers. If we can't resolve
phone number, we can't close for this user access to Internet.

So, questions are - is Cisco looks into this CLIR flag, when retrieve
calling phone number? If so - does it take attention to this flag?

Thank you.

Josh Duffek wrote:

> i dont think we look at that right now. are you having any specific
> problems related to clir?
>
> joshd.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vladimir Litovka" <doka@kiev.sovam.com>
> To: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:02 AM
> Subject: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300
>
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>is AS5300 series aware of CLIR, which signals node not to show calling
>
> line
>
>>identifier? If yes - does anybody know way how to ignore CLIR flag on
>>incoming from PRI calls on 5300?
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>--
>>:r !ripewhois DOKA-RIPE
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
>> -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>
>
>

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Re: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300 [ In reply to ]
Thus spake Vladimir Litovka (doka@kiev.sovam.com):

> We provide pre-paid dialup and have big problem with spammers - they
> buy the most cheap card, launch SPAM and then never use this login.
> We are maintaining content-based filtering (for well-known spam
> mails) and phone blacklist, where stored phones of all "our"
> spammers. If we can't resolve phone number, we can't close for this
> user access to Internet.

You could configure your RADIUS server not to authenticate if the CLI
is witheld by the customer. This is what we do.

Mark
RE: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300 [ In reply to ]
If you want to get the CLI even when it is not present in the signalling
between the telco switch and your NAS you must configure a CLIR overriding
function in the Telco switch. If you own your switch then it won't be a
problem (under condition the feature is available). In the case you don't
own your switch, you will face a regulatory problem because an operator must
respect the privacy of its customers and will not allow you to get the phone
numbers when CLIR has been invoked. Maybe special agreements exist between
ISP and Telco for this particular problem.

If you configure preauth with DNIS map, what happens if the number is not
present ? Will it be authenticated according to its domain or will it be
dropped ?


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-----Message d'origine-----
De: Vladimir Litovka [SMTP:doka@kiev.sovam.com]
Date: lundi 21 octobre 2002 08:20
À: Josh Duffek
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Objet: Re: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300

We provide pre-paid dialup and have big problem with spammers - they
buy
the most cheap card, launch SPAM and then never use this login. We
are
maintaining content-based filtering (for well-known spam mails) and
phone
blacklist, where stored phones of all "our" spammers. If we can't
resolve
phone number, we can't close for this user access to Internet.

So, questions are - is Cisco looks into this CLIR flag, when
retrieve
calling phone number? If so - does it take attention to this flag?

Thank you.

Josh Duffek wrote:

> i dont think we look at that right now. are you having any
specific
> problems related to clir?
>
> joshd.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vladimir Litovka" <doka@kiev.sovam.com>
> To: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:02 AM
> Subject: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300
>
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>is AS5300 series aware of CLIR, which signals node not to show
calling
>
> line
>
>>identifier? If yes - does anybody know way how to ignore CLIR flag
on
>>incoming from PRI calls on 5300?
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>--
>>:r !ripewhois DOKA-RIPE

>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys
the pig.
>> -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>cisco-nsp mailing list real_name)s@puck.nether.net
>>http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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>>
>
>

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pig.
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Re: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300 [ In reply to ]
you can do aaa preauth in 12.1(2)T or higher...or do what mark said. here
is some info:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121
t/121t2/dtpreaut.htm

joshd.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vladimir Litovka" <doka@kiev.sovam.com>
To: "Josh Duffek" <jduffek@cisco.com>
Cc: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300


> We provide pre-paid dialup and have big problem with spammers - they buy
> the most cheap card, launch SPAM and then never use this login. We are
> maintaining content-based filtering (for well-known spam mails) and phone
> blacklist, where stored phones of all "our" spammers. If we can't resolve
> phone number, we can't close for this user access to Internet.
>
> So, questions are - is Cisco looks into this CLIR flag, when retrieve
> calling phone number? If so - does it take attention to this flag?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Josh Duffek wrote:
>
> > i dont think we look at that right now. are you having any specific
> > problems related to clir?
> >
> > joshd.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vladimir Litovka" <doka@kiev.sovam.com>
> > To: <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
> > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:02 AM
> > Subject: [nsp] Ignore CLIR on AS5300
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>is AS5300 series aware of CLIR, which signals node not to show calling
> >
> > line
> >
> >>identifier? If yes - does anybody know way how to ignore CLIR flag on
> >>incoming from PRI calls on 5300?
> >>
> >>Thank you.
> >>
> >>--
> >>:r !ripewhois DOKA-RIPE
>
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the
pig.
> >> -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
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> >>http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> :r !ripewhois DOKA-RIPE
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
> -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"
>
>