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I don't think fax off-ramp is supported on the 5800. Fax off-ramp is
character based, so doesn't scale that well on the 5800. You should be
able to do it on a 5300 with just MICA cards though. Either CAS or
PRI should be ok for faxing.

Dennis

jlewis@lewis.org [jlewis@lewis.org] wrote:
> I've been asked to look into setting up an AS5800 (pulled from providing
> dial-up service) to do outbound faxing. I'm having trouble finding clear
> documentation on this, but what I've found so far is worrying me.
>
> It looks like what I want is to setup a T.37 off-ramp gateway. Can this
> be done on a 5800 with 144-port mica modem cards? Most of the docs talk
> about voice cards/ports, which I don't have.
>
> Also, for outbound faxing, does it matter if the T1's are configured as
> channelized T1 vs PRI?
>
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Jon,

The AS5800 does not support T.37 fax relay.

Regards,
Darryl Sladden
VGDBU Product Manager
dsladden@cisco.com
Phone: 408-525-8970
Cell: 408-390-3781
Cisco Systems Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Dennis Peng
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:30 AM
> To: jlewis@lewis.org
> Cc: cisco-nas@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-nas] as5800 for fax off-ramp?
>
>
> I don't think fax off-ramp is supported on the 5800. Fax off-ramp is
> character based, so doesn't scale that well on the 5800. You should be
> able to do it on a 5300 with just MICA cards though. Either CAS or
> PRI should be ok for faxing.
>
> Dennis
>
> jlewis@lewis.org [jlewis@lewis.org] wrote:
> > I've been asked to look into setting up an AS5800 (pulled from providing
> > dial-up service) to do outbound faxing. I'm having trouble finding clear
> > documentation on this, but what I've found so far is worrying me.
> >
> > It looks like what I want is to setup a T.37 off-ramp gateway. Can this
> > be done on a 5800 with 144-port mica modem cards? Most of the docs talk
> > about voice cards/ports, which I don't have.
> >
> > Also, for outbound faxing, does it matter if the T1's are configured as
> > channelized T1 vs PRI?
> >
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> |||| |||| 170 West Tasman Drive Phone: (408) 526-6143
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That sucks. Are there other protocols for which the 5800 can be used to
send out faxes to remote fax machines over the PSTN?...or would we be
forced to go to 5300's or a 5400 to do this with cisco gear?

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Darryl Sladden wrote:

>
> Jon,
>
> The AS5800 does not support T.37 fax relay.
>
> Regards,
> Darryl Sladden
> VGDBU Product Manager
> dsladden@cisco.com
> Phone: 408-525-8970
> Cell: 408-390-3781
> Cisco Systems Inc.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Dennis Peng
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:30 AM
> > To: jlewis@lewis.org
> > Cc: cisco-nas@puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-nas] as5800 for fax off-ramp?
> >
> >
> > I don't think fax off-ramp is supported on the 5800. Fax off-ramp is
> > character based, so doesn't scale that well on the 5800. You should be
> > able to do it on a 5300 with just MICA cards though. Either CAS or
> > PRI should be ok for faxing.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > jlewis@lewis.org [jlewis@lewis.org] wrote:
> > > I've been asked to look into setting up an AS5800 (pulled from providing
> > > dial-up service) to do outbound faxing. I'm having trouble finding clear
> > > documentation on this, but what I've found so far is worrying me.
> > >
> > > It looks like what I want is to setup a T.37 off-ramp gateway. Can this
> > > be done on a 5800 with 144-port mica modem cards? Most of the docs talk
> > > about voice cards/ports, which I don't have.
> > >
> > > Also, for outbound faxing, does it matter if the T1's are configured as
> > > channelized T1 vs PRI?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route
> > > System Administrator | therefore you are
> > > Atlantic Net |
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> > >
> > >
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> >
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> > || || Cisco Systems, Inc. Escalation Engineer
> > |||| |||| 170 West Tasman Drive Phone: (408) 526-6143
> > ..:||||||:..:||||||:.. San Jose, CA 95134 Fax: (408) 232-2343
> > Cisco Systems Inc. dpeng@cisco.com
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Jon,

The AS5800 supports sending out Faxes via T.38.
You would need a T.38 Fax Server and upgrade
to Voice cards for the AS5800.

The other options are to trade up the AS5800
to an AS5350 that support T.37 and then get
a T.37 fax server.

Regards,
Darryl Sladden
VGDBU Product Manager
dsladden@cisco.com
Phone: 408-525-8970
Cell: 408-390-3781
Cisco Systems Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jlewis@lewis.org [mailto:jlewis@lewis.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 5:30 PM
> To: Darryl Sladden
> Cc: Dennis Peng; cisco-nas@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-nas] as5800 for fax off-ramp?
>
>
> That sucks. Are there other protocols for which the 5800 can be used to
> send out faxes to remote fax machines over the PSTN?...or would we be
> forced to go to 5300's or a 5400 to do this with cisco gear?
>
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Darryl Sladden wrote:
>
> >
> > Jon,
> >
> > The AS5800 does not support T.37 fax relay.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Darryl Sladden
> > VGDBU Product Manager
> > dsladden@cisco.com
> > Phone: 408-525-8970
> > Cell: 408-390-3781
> > Cisco Systems Inc.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net
> > > [mailto:cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Dennis Peng
> > > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:30 AM
> > > To: jlewis@lewis.org
> > > Cc: cisco-nas@puck.nether.net
> > > Subject: Re: [cisco-nas] as5800 for fax off-ramp?
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think fax off-ramp is supported on the 5800. Fax off-ramp is
> > > character based, so doesn't scale that well on the 5800. You should be
> > > able to do it on a 5300 with just MICA cards though. Either CAS or
> > > PRI should be ok for faxing.
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > jlewis@lewis.org [jlewis@lewis.org] wrote:
> > > > I've been asked to look into setting up an AS5800 (pulled from providing
> > > > dial-up service) to do outbound faxing. I'm having trouble finding clear
> > > > documentation on this, but what I've found so far is worrying me.
> > > >
> > > > It looks like what I want is to setup a T.37 off-ramp gateway. Can this
> > > > be done on a 5800 with 144-port mica modem cards? Most of the docs talk
> > > > about voice cards/ports, which I don't have.
> > > >
> > > > Also, for outbound faxing, does it matter if the T1's are configured as
> > > > channelized T1 vs PRI?
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route
> > > > System Administrator | therefore you are
> > > > Atlantic Net |
> > > > _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> > > --
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > || || Dennis Peng
> > > || || Cisco Systems, Inc. Escalation Engineer
> > > |||| |||| 170 West Tasman Drive Phone: (408) 526-6143
> > > ..:||||||:..:||||||:.. San Jose, CA 95134 Fax: (408) 232-2343
> > > Cisco Systems Inc. dpeng@cisco.com
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
>
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> Atlantic Net |
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>

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Darryl Sladden wrote:

> The AS5800 does not support T.37 fax relay.

What parts would we need in an as5400 to do fax off-ramp on a channelized
T3? Is my understanding correct that with off-ramp, we can literally send
specially crafted emails from pretty much any software capable of sending
email to the access-server, and the access-server will convert those
emails to faxes and send them to the appropriate fax numbers? Why is
voice/VOIP always mentioned in the documents?...what does fax off-ramp
have to do with VOIP protocols?

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Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route
System Administrator | therefore you are
Atlantic Net |
_________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________