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Ahmad,

>
> I want to configure virtual profiles. These profiles
> shoul be used, when they are needed.
> Normally the configuration should look like this :
>
> virtual-profile if-needed
> virtual-profile virtual-template 1
> virtual-profile aaa
>
> Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line
> "virtual-profile aaa" is away.
>
> Any ideas, why this happen?
> Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?
> Is there a new way to configure this option ?

This command is obsolete, you don't need it anymore. IOS automatically
uses a vaccess when it sees per-user attributes in the AAA response..

oli

Hi Oliver,

thanks for that quick reply.
I have a dialin user, which do not get an virtual
interface. The radius config is relatively easy:

user01 Auth-Type:= Local, User-Password == "****""
Service-Type = Framed-User,
Framed-Protocol = PPP,
cisco-avpair += "ip:addr-pool=POOL_NETYOU_RFC",
Framed-Routing = None

Any ideas, why this user get no virtual-interface ?
Wiht 12.2 there was no problems.

Thanks in advance,
Ahmad





Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
> Ahmad,
>
>
>>I want to configure virtual profiles. These profiles
>>shoul be used, when they are needed.
>>Normally the configuration should look like this :
>>
>>virtual-profile if-needed
>>virtual-profile virtual-template 1
>>virtual-profile aaa
>>
>>Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line
>>"virtual-profile aaa" is away.
>>
>>Any ideas, why this happen?
>>Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?
>>Is there a new way to configure this option ?
>
>
> This command is obsolete, you don't need it anymore. IOS automatically
> uses a vaccess when it sees per-user attributes in the AAA response..
>
> oli


--
Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
NetUSE AG
Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE/

> I have a dialin user, which do not get an virtual
> interface. The radius config is relatively easy:
>
> user01 Auth-Type:= Local, User-Password == "****""
> Service-Type = Framed-User,
> Framed-Protocol = PPP,
> cisco-avpair += "ip:addr-pool=POOL_NETYOU_RFC",
> Framed-Routing = None
>
> Any ideas, why this user get no virtual-interface ?
> Wiht 12.2 there was no problems.

Apart from the fact that the user is terminated on the physical line, is there a problem? Can't check right now, but we shouldn't need an vaccess for this specific user. Is this an ISDN or Modem/async user?
remove the "virtual-profile if-needed" and you'll get a vaccess for every call..

oli

>> Ahmad,
>>
>>
>>> I want to configure virtual profiles. These profiles
>>> shoul be used, when they are needed.
>>> Normally the configuration should look like this :
>>>
>>> virtual-profile if-needed
>>> virtual-profile virtual-template 1
>>> virtual-profile aaa
>>>
>>> Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line
>>> "virtual-profile aaa" is away.
>>>
>>> Any ideas, why this happen?
>>> Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?
>>> Is there a new way to configure this option ?
>>
>>
>> This command is obsolete, you don't need it anymore. IOS
>> automatically uses a vaccess when it sees per-user attributes in the
>> AAA response..
>>
>> oli
>
>
> --
> Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
> NetUSE AG
> Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
> Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
> Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE/

Hi Oliver,

it is not really a problem. It's a matter of nat.
I have configured "ip nat inside" only on the dialer Interface
and on the virtual-interface. As the user gets no virtual-interface,
the router use the Pri Interface. The "ip nat inside" Feature is not
configured on the Pri interface and therefore the user wasn't natted.
As I configured on the Pysical interface "ip nat inside" the user was
properly natted. Normally I don't wanna configure any ip options on
an Physical Interface and therefore it is for me a problem.

Any ideas, how to solve that ?

Regards,
Ahmad

Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
>
>
>>I have a dialin user, which do not get an virtual
>>interface. The radius config is relatively easy:
>>
>>user01 Auth-Type:= Local, User-Password == "****""
>> Service-Type = Framed-User,
>> Framed-Protocol = PPP,
>> cisco-avpair += "ip:addr-pool=POOL_NETYOU_RFC",
>> Framed-Routing = None
>>
>>Any ideas, why this user get no virtual-interface ?
>>Wiht 12.2 there was no problems.
>
>
> Apart from the fact that the user is terminated on the physical line, is there a problem? Can't check right now, but we shouldn't need an vaccess for this specific user. Is this an ISDN or Modem/async user?
> remove the "virtual-profile if-needed" and you'll get a vaccess for every call..
>
> oli
>
>
>>>Ahmad,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I want to configure virtual profiles. These profiles
>>>>shoul be used, when they are needed.
>>>>Normally the configuration should look like this :
>>>>
>>>>virtual-profile if-needed
>>>>virtual-profile virtual-template 1
>>>>virtual-profile aaa
>>>>
>>>>Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line
>>>>"virtual-profile aaa" is away.
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas, why this happen?
>>>>Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?
>>>>Is there a new way to configure this option ?
>>>
>>>
>>>This command is obsolete, you don't need it anymore. IOS
>>>automatically uses a vaccess when it sees per-user attributes in the
>>>AAA response..
>>>
>>> oli
>>
>>
>>--
>>Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
>>NetUSE AG
>>Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
>>Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
>>Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE
>
> /


--
Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
NetUSE AG
Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE/

Hi,

Virtual-profiles are created by default in 12.3, so 'virtual-profile aaa' is no longer needed. But be warned - there was a BUG in 12.3(10), I'm not sure is it fixed now. Bug was very simple - if there is only one Dialer interface in this dialer-pool, no virtual interfaces will be created. You have to create and add to your dialer-profile at least one bogus Dialer interface, only then you will get virtual-access interfaces created.

Hope this helps :)

Andris






-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmad Cheikh Moussa
Sent: 7 марта 2005 г. 16:05
To: cisco-nas@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-nas] Virtaul-profile feature Set

Hi!

I have Cisco 3640 with 12.3(11)T3 IP Plus Feature
Set (c3640-is-mz.123-11.T3).

I want to configure virtual profiles. These profiles
shoul be used, when they are needed.
Normally the configuration should look like this :

virtual-profile if-needed
virtual-profile virtual-template 1
virtual-profile aaa

Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line
"virtual-profile aaa" is away.

Any ideas, why this happen?
Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?
Is there a new way to configure this option ?

Regards,
Ahmad




--
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NetUSE AG
Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE/

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Ahmad Cheikh Moussa <mailto:acm@netuse.de> wrote on Monday, March 07, 2005 4:19 PM:

> it is not really a problem. It's a matter of nat.
> I have configured "ip nat inside" only on the dialer Interface
> and on the virtual-interface. As the user gets no virtual-interface,
> the router use the Pri Interface. The "ip nat inside" Feature is not
> configured on the Pri interface and therefore the user wasn't natted.
> As I configured on the Pysical interface "ip nat inside" the user was
> properly natted. Normally I don't wanna configure any ip options on
> an Physical Interface and therefore it is for me a problem.
>
> Any ideas, how to solve that ?

"no virtual-profile if-needed" doesn't work?

oli

>
> Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have a dialin user, which do not get an virtual
>>> interface. The radius config is relatively easy:
>>>
>>> user01 Auth-Type:= Local, User-Password == "****""
>>> Service-Type = Framed-User,
>>> Framed-Protocol = PPP,
>>> cisco-avpair += "ip:addr-pool=POOL_NETYOU_RFC",
>>> Framed-Routing = None
>>>
>>> Any ideas, why this user get no virtual-interface ?
>>> Wiht 12.2 there was no problems.
>>
>>
>> Apart from the fact that the user is terminated on the physical
>> line, is there a problem? Can't check right now, but we shouldn't
>> need an vaccess for this specific user. Is this an ISDN or
>> Modem/async user? remove the "virtual-profile if-needed" and you'll
>> get a vaccess for every call..
>>
>> oli
>>
>>
>>>> Ahmad,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I want to configure virtual profiles. These profiles
>>>>> shoul be used, when they are needed.
>>>>> Normally the configuration should look like this :
>>>>>
>>>>> virtual-profile if-needed
>>>>> virtual-profile virtual-template 1
>>>>> virtual-profile aaa
>>>>>
>>>>> Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line
>>>>> "virtual-profile aaa" is away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas, why this happen?
>>>>> Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?
>>>>> Is there a new way to configure this option ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This command is obsolete, you don't need it anymore. IOS
>>>> automatically uses a vaccess when it sees per-user attributes in
>>>> the AAA response..
>>>>
>>>> oli
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
>>> NetUSE AG
>>> Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
>>> Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
>>> Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE
>>
>> /
>
>
> --
> Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
> NetUSE AG
> Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
> Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
> Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE/

At 05:51 PM 3/7/2005 +0200, Andris Zarins wrote:

>Hi,
>Virtual-profiles are created by default in 12.3, so 'virtual-profile aaa'
>is no longer needed. But be warned - there was a BUG in 12.3(10), I'm not
>sure is it fixed now.

I think you are referring to CSCdu05390, fixed in 12.3(10) and later.

I don't think that this is likely the issue that Ahmad is seeing, since
this bug existed in 12.2, too.

mark


> Bug was very simple - if there is only one Dialer interface in this
> dialer-pool, no virtual interfaces will be created. You have to create
> and add to your dialer-profile at least one bogus Dialer interface, only
> then you will get virtual-access interfaces created.
>Hope this helps :)
>Andris
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----From: cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net
>[mailto:cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmad Cheikh
>MoussaSent: 7 марта 2005 г. 16:05To:
>cisco-nas@puck.nether.netSubject: [cisco-nas] Virtaul-profile feature Set
>Hi!
>I have Cisco 3640 with 12.3(11)T3 IP Plus FeatureSet (c3640-is-mz.123-11.T3).
>I want to configure virtual profiles. These profilesshoul be used, when
>they are needed.Normally the configuration should look like this :
>virtual-profile if-neededvirtual-profile virtual-template 1virtual-profile aaa
>Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line"virtual-profile aaa" is away.
>Any ideas, why this happen?Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?Is
>there a new way to configure this option ?
>Regards, Ahmad
>
>
>
>-- Ahmad Cheikh-MoussaNetUSE AGDr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel,
>GermanyTelefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499Service:
>Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE/
>_______________________________________________cisco-nas mailing
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>

Yep, this really is the one I was thinking about:

Cisco Bug ID CSCdu05390, it is mandatory to configure a minimum of two dialer-pool interfaces. A router configured with a single dialer profile interface binds all incoming calls to that profile by default, and the virtual template is never utilized for any call.


If you say it's solved - OK, might be, 12.3(10) with bogus dialer works fine for me. But symptoms, Ahmad described, are somewhat the same as this BUG.


Andris

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Johnson [mailto:mljohnso@cisco.com]
Sent: 7 марта 2005 г. 18:56
To: Andris Zarins; Ahmad Cheikh Moussa
Cc: cisco-nas@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-nas] Virtaul-profile feature Set

At 05:51 PM 3/7/2005 +0200, Andris Zarins wrote:

>Hi,
>Virtual-profiles are created by default in 12.3, so 'virtual-profile aaa'
>is no longer needed. But be warned - there was a BUG in 12.3(10), I'm not
>sure is it fixed now.

I think you are referring to CSCdu05390, fixed in 12.3(10) and later.

I don't think that this is likely the issue that Ahmad is seeing, since
this bug existed in 12.2, too.

mark


> Bug was very simple - if there is only one Dialer interface in this
> dialer-pool, no virtual interfaces will be created. You have to create
> and add to your dialer-profile at least one bogus Dialer interface, only
> then you will get virtual-access interfaces created.
>Hope this helps :)
>Andris
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----From: cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net
>[mailto:cisco-nas-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmad Cheikh
>MoussaSent: 7 марта 2005 г. 16:05To:
>cisco-nas@puck.nether.netSubject: [cisco-nas] Virtaul-profile feature Set
>Hi!
>I have Cisco 3640 with 12.3(11)T3 IP Plus FeatureSet (c3640-is-mz.123-11.T3).
>I want to configure virtual profiles. These profilesshoul be used, when
>they are needed.Normally the configuration should look like this :
>virtual-profile if-neededvirtual-profile virtual-template 1virtual-profile aaa
>Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line"virtual-profile aaa" is away.
>Any ideas, why this happen?Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?Is
>there a new way to configure this option ?
>Regards, Ahmad
>
>
>
>-- Ahmad Cheikh-MoussaNetUSE AGDr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel,
>GermanyTelefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499Service:
>Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE/
>_______________________________________________cisco-nas mailing
>listcisco-nas@puck.nether.nethttps://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nas
>_______________________________________________cisco-nas mailing
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>

Hi Oliver,

Is there something I have to think of before I use
"no virtual-profile if-needed" ?

This command means that for every call will be made an
Virtual-Interface. When I made an show vtemplate, the output
show that I have a max of 9 Vtemplate. That means more than 8
simultaneous call is not possible, if I deactivate the if-needed
feature. Is that right ?


jersey02#sh vtemplate
Virtual access subinterface creation is globally enabled

Active Active Subint Pre-clone Pre-clone
Interface Subinterface Capable Available Limit
--------- ------------ ------- --------- ---------
Vt1 0 0 Yes -- --

Usage Summary
Interface Subinterface
--------- ------------
Current in use 1 0
Current free 8 1
Total 9 1


Regards,
Ahmad

Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
> Ahmad Cheikh Moussa <mailto:acm@netuse.de> wrote on Monday, March 07, 2005 4:19 PM:
>
>
>>it is not really a problem. It's a matter of nat.
>>I have configured "ip nat inside" only on the dialer Interface
>>and on the virtual-interface. As the user gets no virtual-interface,
>>the router use the Pri Interface. The "ip nat inside" Feature is not
>>configured on the Pri interface and therefore the user wasn't natted.
>>As I configured on the Pysical interface "ip nat inside" the user was
>>properly natted. Normally I don't wanna configure any ip options on
>>an Physical Interface and therefore it is for me a problem.
>>
>>Any ideas, how to solve that ?
>
>
> "no virtual-profile if-needed" doesn't work?
>
> oli
>
>
>>Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>I have a dialin user, which do not get an virtual
>>>>interface. The radius config is relatively easy:
>>>>
>>>>user01 Auth-Type:= Local, User-Password == "****""
>>>> Service-Type = Framed-User,
>>>> Framed-Protocol = PPP,
>>>> cisco-avpair += "ip:addr-pool=POOL_NETYOU_RFC",
>>>>Framed-Routing = None
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas, why this user get no virtual-interface ?
>>>>Wiht 12.2 there was no problems.
>>>
>>>
>>>Apart from the fact that the user is terminated on the physical
>>>line, is there a problem? Can't check right now, but we shouldn't
>>>need an vaccess for this specific user. Is this an ISDN or
>>>Modem/async user? remove the "virtual-profile if-needed" and you'll
>>>get a vaccess for every call..
>>>
>>> oli
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Ahmad,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I want to configure virtual profiles. These profiles
>>>>>>shoul be used, when they are needed.
>>>>>>Normally the configuration should look like this :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>virtual-profile if-needed
>>>>>>virtual-profile virtual-template 1
>>>>>>virtual-profile aaa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line
>>>>>>"virtual-profile aaa" is away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any ideas, why this happen?
>>>>>>Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?
>>>>>>Is there a new way to configure this option ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This command is obsolete, you don't need it anymore. IOS
>>>>>automatically uses a vaccess when it sees per-user attributes in
>>>>>the AAA response..
>>>>>
>>>>> oli
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
>>>>NetUSE AG
>>>>Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
>>>>Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
>>>>Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE
>>>
>>>/
>>
>>
>>--
>>Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
>>NetUSE AG
>>Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
>>Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
>>Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE
>
> /


--
Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
NetUSE AG
Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE/

> Is there something I have to think of before I use
> "no virtual-profile if-needed" ?

Well, only if you really want to use a vaccess for every call.

> This command means that for every call will be made an
> Virtual-Interface. When I made an show vtemplate, the output
> show that I have a max of 9 Vtemplate.

It shows you have one vtemplate (Vt1), but 9 virtual-access interfaces.

> That means more than 8
> simultaneous call is not possible, if I deactivate the if-needed
> feature. Is that right ?

No, we dynamically clone new virtual-access interfaces when needed.

oli

P.S: Another option (besides configuring "no virtual-profile if-needed") is to force a vaccess by including a per-user Attribute in your Radius profile. This could be a no-op like Cisco-avpair += "lcp:interface-config=description dial user", but could also apply NAT on a per-user basis ("lcp:interface-config=ip nat inside"). Whenever IOS finds such an attribute, it will clone a vaccess (i.e. it considers "if-needed" as true).

>
> Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
>> Ahmad Cheikh Moussa <mailto:acm@netuse.de> wrote on Monday, March
>> 07, 2005 4:19 PM:
>>
>>
>>> it is not really a problem. It's a matter of nat.
>>> I have configured "ip nat inside" only on the dialer Interface
>>> and on the virtual-interface. As the user gets no virtual-interface,
>>> the router use the Pri Interface. The "ip nat inside" Feature is not
>>> configured on the Pri interface and therefore the user wasn't
>>> natted. As I configured on the Pysical interface "ip nat inside"
>>> the user was properly natted. Normally I don't wanna configure any
>>> ip options on an Physical Interface and therefore it is for me a
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Any ideas, how to solve that ?
>>
>>
>> "no virtual-profile if-needed" doesn't work?
>>
>> oli
>>
>>
>>> Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have a dialin user, which do not get an virtual
>>>>> interface. The radius config is relatively easy:
>>>>>
>>>>> user01 Auth-Type:= Local, User-Password == "****""
>>>>> Service-Type = Framed-User,
>>>>> Framed-Protocol = PPP,
>>>>> cisco-avpair += "ip:addr-pool=POOL_NETYOU_RFC",
>>>>> Framed-Routing = None
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas, why this user get no virtual-interface ?
>>>>> Wiht 12.2 there was no problems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apart from the fact that the user is terminated on the physical
>>>> line, is there a problem? Can't check right now, but we shouldn't
>>>> need an vaccess for this specific user. Is this an ISDN or
>>>> Modem/async user? remove the "virtual-profile if-needed" and you'll
>>>> get a vaccess for every call..
>>>>
>>>> oli
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Ahmad,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to configure virtual profiles. These profiles
>>>>>>> shoul be used, when they are needed.
>>>>>>> Normally the configuration should look like this :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> virtual-profile if-needed
>>>>>>> virtual-profile virtual-template 1
>>>>>>> virtual-profile aaa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since my update from 12.2 to 12.3(T) the line
>>>>>>> "virtual-profile aaa" is away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas, why this happen?
>>>>>>> Is this command not supported with IP Plus ?
>>>>>>> Is there a new way to configure this option ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This command is obsolete, you don't need it anymore. IOS
>>>>>> automatically uses a vaccess when it sees per-user attributes in
>>>>>> the AAA response..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oli
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
>>>>> NetUSE AG
>>>>> Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
>>>>> Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
>>>>> Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE
>>>>
>>>> /
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
>>> NetUSE AG
>>> Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
>>> Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
>>> Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE
>>
>> /
>
>
> --
> Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
> NetUSE AG
> Dr.-Hell-Straße, 24107 Kiel, Germany
> Telefon: +49 431 2390 400 -- Telefax: +49 431 2390 499
> Service: Service@NetUSE.DE -- http://NetUSE.DE/