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ATM and Ethernet Question
Hi All,

I'm trying to set up a VPN for a few sites and I'm testing how to get
traffic from an ATM cloud through our switched network as seen below. In
theory, it should be Layer 2 all the way from the CPE to the Test
Machine.

Test Machine on VLAN 903 (192.16.14.1) -> [Switched Network] -> Core
Router with ATM and Ethernet sub-interface configured on it -> [Third
Party's ATM cloud] -> CPE (192.168.14.2)

I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or not but I CAN'T ping from
the test machine to the CPE and vice versa.

Core Router config:

bridge irb
bridge 2 protocol ieee
bridge 2 route ip
!
interface ATM1/0.304470 point-to-point
description ATM VC
bandwidth 2048
atm route-bridged ip
bridge-group 2
pvc 10/100
ubr 2048
encapsulation aal5snap
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0.903
encapsulation dot1Q 903
ip flow ingress
bridge-group 2

Is a BVI interface required?

I can confirm that the Layer 2 between the ATM sub interface and CPE is
working. I put an IP address on each end and was able to ping end to
end.

I can also confirm that the Layer 2 between the Test Machine to
Interface Gig0/0.903 is working. Similarly, I put an IP address on each
end and was able to ping end to end.

So my questoin is - can ATM and Ethenet co-exist by putting them both
into the same bridge group as seen in the config above such that the CPE
which is connected to the ATM cloud is able to reach the test machine
which is attached to the ethernet sub-interface on vlan 903 through the
use of this bridge group?

If this is not possible, are there alternatives to what I want to do?

Thanks.

Andy

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Re: ATM and Ethernet Question [ In reply to ]
On Apr 21, 2008, at 1:09 AM, Andy Saykao wrote:
> bridge irb
> bridge 2 protocol ieee
> bridge 2 route ip
> !
> interface ATM1/0.304470 point-to-point
> description ATM VC
> bandwidth 2048
> atm route-bridged ip
> bridge-group 2
> pvc 10/100
> ubr 2048
> encapsulation aal5snap
> !
>


I believe you need to remove the route-bridged encapsulation.

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Re: ATM and Ethernet Question [ In reply to ]
Hi Robert,

Wasn't sure exactly which bit to remove so I tried removing the "atm
route-bridged ip" first from the config but still no Layer 2 between
both end points. I then put it back in and then removed "encapsulation
aal5snap". And lastly I removed both lines from the config. No joy with
any of these combinations.

I saw this Cisco article about using Layer 2 Local Switching
(Configuring ATM-to-Ethernet VLAN Mode Local Switching) at:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_0s/feature/guide/fslocal.html#wp1
110021

Our router is a 7301 and it appears I need to downgrade the IOS on our
router (using 12.3(24)) to a 12.2 release as advised by Cisco's Feauture
Navigator tool - no really sure if this is a good idea.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Blayzor [mailto:rblayzor.bulk@inoc.net]
Sent: Monday, 21 April 2008 9:54 PM
To: Andy Saykao
Cc: cisco-bba@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-bba] ATM and Ethernet Question

On Apr 21, 2008, at 1:09 AM, Andy Saykao wrote:
> bridge irb
> bridge 2 protocol ieee
> bridge 2 route ip
> !
> interface ATM1/0.304470 point-to-point description ATM VC bandwidth
> 2048 atm route-bridged ip bridge-group 2 pvc 10/100
> ubr 2048
> encapsulation aal5snap
> !
>


I believe you need to remove the route-bridged encapsulation.

--
Robert Blayzor, BOFH
INOC, LLC
rblayzor@inoc.net
http://www.inoc.net/~rblayzor/

Mac OS X. Because making Unix user-friendly is easier than debugging
Windows.







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Re: ATM and Ethernet Question [ In reply to ]
Thanks for everyone's help. I got this to work thanks to Robert and
Cisco TAC.

It was exactly what Robert had suggested and that was to remove the "atm
route-bridged ip" under the ATM config. I swear I tried this!

Cisco TAC then suggested I remove all config pertaining to the
bridging/roruting of any layer 3 protocols to keep everything purely at
layer 2 which was what I wanted. And so I was advised to remove "bridge
irb" and "bridge 2 route ip" from my original config. Still wasn't
working.

Cisco TAC then came back and said I needed to have "bridge crb" in the
config. I put that in and wham it started working and I got layer 2 all
the way from the customer site through the ATM cloud and onto VLAN 903
and back to our data centre. I think removing the "bridge irb" and
putting it back in as "bridge crb" helped...not sure how...but it did..

I then changed it from "bridge crb" to "bridge irb" and this continued
to work. I even put "bridge 2 route ip" back in and it was still
working. I then put ""atm route-bridged ip" back in under the ATM and it
stopped working :)

Here's my network diagram again and config for those interested. I've
left the config purely at layer 2 with no bridging/routing of layer 3
protocols.

Data Centre VLAN 903 (192.16.14.1) -> [Switched Network (Ethernet)] ->
core-router (ATM/Ethernet sub-interface) -> [ATM cloud] -> Customer Site
(192.168.14.2)

bridge irb
!
bridge 2 protocol ieee
!
interface ATM1/0.304470 point-to-point
description ATM VC
bandwidth 2048
bridge-group 2
pvc 10/100
ubr 2048
encapsulation aal5snap
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0.903
description VLAN 903
encapsulation dot1Q 903
ip flow ingress
bridge-group 2


Cheers.

Andy


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Subject: Re: [cisco-bba] ATM and Ethernet Question
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Hi Robert,

Wasn't sure exactly which bit to remove so I tried removing the "atm
route-bridged ip" first from the config but still no Layer 2 between
both end points. I then put it back in and then removed "encapsulation
aal5snap". And lastly I removed both lines from the config. No joy with
any of these combinations.

I saw this Cisco article about using Layer 2 Local Switching
(Configuring ATM-to-Ethernet VLAN Mode Local Switching) at:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_0s/feature/guide/fslocal.html#wp1
110021

Our router is a 7301 and it appears I need to downgrade the IOS on our
router (using 12.3(24)) to a 12.2 release as advised by Cisco's Feauture
Navigator tool - no really sure if this is a good idea.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Blayzor [mailto:rblayzor.bulk@inoc.net]
Sent: Monday, 21 April 2008 9:54 PM
To: Andy Saykao
Cc: cisco-bba@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-bba] ATM and Ethernet Question

On Apr 21, 2008, at 1:09 AM, Andy Saykao wrote:
> bridge irb
> bridge 2 protocol ieee
> bridge 2 route ip
> !
> interface ATM1/0.304470 point-to-point description ATM VC bandwidth
> 2048 atm route-bridged ip bridge-group 2 pvc 10/100
> ubr 2048
> encapsulation aal5snap
> !
>


I believe you need to remove the route-bridged encapsulation.

--
Robert Blayzor, BOFH
INOC, LLC
rblayzor@inoc.net
http://www.inoc.net/~rblayzor/

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Windows.







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