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On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Hann, Brian wrote:

> I'm trying to get 1.4.0 installed but unforunately I am completely new
> to Postgres. I originally tried to install 1.2.3 but decided to give
> up. Is there any way I can remove the old data from the database,
> including contraints and things?

Sure. Just do:

dropdb -U postgres bric

Replace "bric" with whatever you Bricolage database is called and
"postgres" with the Postgres root username on your system.

> This is the most current error I'm getting:
>
> Creating user named bric...
> User named "bric" already exists. Drop user? [no]

You should answer "yes" here, or choose a new username that isn't already
in use.

> It looks like even though I told it not to drop the user it still tried.

No, it tried to create the user anyway. Um, which isn't what I thought it
would do. It should exit after you tell it not to drop the existing user.

-sam





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On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Hann, Brian wrote:

> I got all that installed but I had to manually clean out template1.

What happened to template1? You aren't trying to load Bricolage into
template1, are you?

> There's still a fucntion (login_avail) that I can't remove so I
> commented out the SQL statement in the .sql file.

Can you give me more details? How are you trying to remove it and what
exactly is the result?

-sam




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I got all that installed but I had to manually clean out template1. There's still a fucntion (login_avail) that I can't remove so I commented out the SQL statement in the .sql file.

Right now I'm having problems starting Apache, something to do with CharTrans.pm. I'm all closed down now, maybe I'll try next week.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Tregar [mailto:sam@tregar.com]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:54 PM
To: Hann, Brian
Cc: bricolage-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bricolage-General] Installing Bricolage 1.4.0


On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Hann, Brian wrote:

> I'm trying to get 1.4.0 installed but unforunately I am completely new
> to Postgres. I originally tried to install 1.2.3 but decided to give
> up. Is there any way I can remove the old data from the database,
> including contraints and things?

Sure. Just do:

dropdb -U postgres bric

Replace "bric" with whatever you Bricolage database is called and
"postgres" with the Postgres root username on your system.

> This is the most current error I'm getting:
>
> Creating user named bric...
> User named "bric" already exists. Drop user? [no]

You should answer "yes" here, or choose a new username that isn't already
in use.

> It looks like even though I told it not to drop the user it still tried.

No, it tried to create the user anyway. Um, which isn't what I thought it
would do. It should exit after you tell it not to drop the existing user.

-sam





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On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 02:12 PM, Hann, Brian wrote:

> I got all that installed but I had to manually clean out template1.
> There's still a fucntion (login_avail) that I can't remove so I
> commented out the SQL statement in the .sql file.

Somehow you managed to put all the bricolage stuff in the template1
database. You don't want to do that. It should go into its own database.

If you're not using PostgreSQL for anything else, the best thing might
be to shut down the postmaster, delete the data directory, and run
initdb again. That'll create a brand new template1. Start the
postmaster and try to install Bricolage again.

> Right now I'm having problems starting Apache, something to do with
> CharTrans.pm. I'm all closed down now, maybe I'll try next week.

Do you have Text::Iconv installed? You'll need that, as well as the
supporting libiconv library.

HTH,

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On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 02:11 PM, Sam Tregar wrote:

> Can you give me more details? How are you trying to remove it and what
> exactly is the result?

To drop a function, you have to give its complete signature, which is
"login_avail(varchar, numeric(1,0), numeric(10, 0))".

HTH,

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you can drop the database - e.g. 'drop [database]' , right?

-mj

On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Hann, Brian wrote:

> Hey there,
>
> I'm trying to get 1.4.0 installed but unforunately I am completely new to Postgres. I originally tried to install 1.2.3 but decided to give up. Is there any way I can remove the old data from the database, including contraints and things?
>
> This is the most current error I'm getting:
>
> --------------------------------------
> Becoming pgsql...
> Creating database named bric...
> Database named "bric" already exists. Drop database? [no] yes
> Creating database named bric...
> Database created.
> Creating user named bric...
> User named "bric" already exists. Drop user? [no]
> ###############################################################################
>
> Failed to create database user. The error from Postgres was:
>
> ERROR: CREATE USER: user name "bric" already exists
>
> ###############################################################################
> Database handle destroyed without explicit disconnect, <STDIN> line 2.
> *** Error code 1
> -------------------



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On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 06:18 PM, Michael Johnson wrote:

> you can drop the database - e.g. 'drop [database]' , right?

You don't want to drop the template1 database. It's the database that's
used to create all other databases. Without it, you don't have a
database server.

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yes, i didn't realize (didn't read the thread all the way through) that he
was referring to that one, originally. Next time I think I'll read the
subsequent posts before saying anyting.:)

(And the sentence would be dropdb [database], of course, not drop
[database].)

-mj

On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, David Wheeler wrote:

> On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 06:18 PM, Michael Johnson wrote:
>
> > you can drop the database - e.g. 'drop [database]' , right?
>
> You don't want to drop the template1 database. It's the database that's
> used to create all other databases. Without it, you don't have a
> database server.
>
> David
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Okay I actually got it working using bric_apachectl (this is version 1.4.0).

Yes I did accidently load 1.2.3 into template1, I've never used Postgres before so I hope that's forgivable :) I got it all cleaned out, though.

I would *like* to run bricolage as a vhost, since I already have stuff running on Apache. Here's what I have in my .conf file for bricolage:

<VirtualHost 10.7.4.164:80>
ServerName bricolage.servername.com
ServerAlias bricolage.servername.com

<Perl>
use File::Spec::Functions qw(catdir);
BEGIN {
$ENV{BRICOLAGE_ROOT} ||= '/usr/local/bricolage';
unshift(@INC, catdir($ENV{BRICOLAGE_ROOT}, 'lib'));
};
</Perl>

PerlPassEnv BRICOLAGE_ROOT
PerlModule Bric::App::ApacheConfig
</VirtualHost>

This is a separate conf file that I Include in Apache's httpd.conf. Will that work? Do I have to do special stuff with bricolage.conf and /usr/local/bricolage/conf/httpd.conf? I did change the NAME_VHOST and VHOST_SERVER_NAME but I'm guessing there's more to it than that.

Thanks,

Brian Hann


-----Original Message-----
From: David Wheeler [mailto:david@wheeler.net]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:21 PM
To: Hann, Brian
Cc: Sam Tregar; bricolage-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bricolage-General] Installing Bricolage 1.4.0


On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 02:12 PM, Hann, Brian wrote:

> I got all that installed but I had to manually clean out template1.
> There's still a fucntion (login_avail) that I can't remove so I
> commented out the SQL statement in the .sql file.

Somehow you managed to put all the bricolage stuff in the template1
database. You don't want to do that. It should go into its own database.

If you're not using PostgreSQL for anything else, the best thing might
be to shut down the postmaster, delete the data directory, and run
initdb again. That'll create a brand new template1. Start the
postmaster and try to install Bricolage again.

> Right now I'm having problems starting Apache, something to do with
> CharTrans.pm. I'm all closed down now, maybe I'll try next week.

Do you have Text::Iconv installed? You'll need that, as well as the
supporting libiconv library.

HTH,

David

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On Monday, September 9, 2002, at 08:12 AM, Hann, Brian wrote:

> This is a separate conf file that I Include in Apache's httpd.conf.
> Will that work? Do I have to do special stuff with bricolage.conf and
> /usr/local/bricolage/conf/httpd.conf? I did change the NAME_VHOST and
> VHOST_SERVER_NAME but I'm guessing there's more to it than that.

I don't think so. Bricolage does a lot of Apache configuration under
the hood that's difficult to replicate. Your best option is to set the
NAME_VHOST and VHOST_SERVER_NAME directives in bricolage.conf, and then
simply include

PerlPassEnv BRICOLAGE_ROOT
PerlModule Bric::App::ApacheConfig

in your httpd.conf. Note that you won't need a NameVirtualHost
directive in your httpd.conf, as Bricolage will create it for you.

Once you have this configuration working, you can experiment with
manual configuration. Use the MANUAL_APACHE directive to have Bricolage
create /tmp/bricolage/bric_httpd.conf, and copy its contents into your
httpd.conf and then use these directives at the end of your httpd.conf:

PerlPassEnv BRICOLAGE_ROOT
PerlModule Bric::App::ApacheStartup

Read Bric::Admin (aka INSTALL) for more documentation on how to do this
stuff. The bricolage.conf file contains a lot of information on it, too.

HTH,

David

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But if I run it as a separate process I won't be able to use the same port will I?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:michael@insulin-pumpers.org]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:51 PM
To: bricolage-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Bricolage-General] Installing Bricolage 1.4.0


> Okay I actually got it working using bric_apachectl (this is version
> 1.4.0).
>
> Yes I did accidently load 1.2.3 into template1, I've never used
> Postgres before so I hope that's forgivable :) I got it all cleaned
> out, though.
>
> I would *like* to run bricolage as a vhost, since I already have
> stuff running on Apache. Here's what I have in my .conf file for
> bricolage:

I would suggest you run a separate apache process. Bric has a very
large footprint. See the example in the README file for running on
ports 81 and 444. the default configuration should work fine for that

Take a look at "top" from my machine and observe the memory image
size. The first three are my "other" copy of apache running Bric, the
rest are standard issue apache mod_perl +ssl

1557 web 11 0 24428 23M 24304 S 0.0 4.7 0:00 httpsd
1558 web 11 0 24428 23M 24304 S 0.0 4.7 0:00 httpsd
1555 root 11 0 24408 23M 24276 S 0.0 4.7 0:00 httpsd
16610 web 9 0 4888 4624 3484 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
16613 web 9 0 4936 4576 3052 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
16615 web 9 0 4928 4564 2884 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
16606 web 9 0 5012 4552 4044 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
16608 web 9 0 4760 4372 3736 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd

Michael

>
> <VirtualHost 10.7.4.164:80>
> ServerName bricolage.servername.com
> ServerAlias bricolage.servername.com
>
> <Perl>
> use File::Spec::Functions qw(catdir);
> BEGIN {
> $ENV{BRICOLAGE_ROOT} ||=
> '/usr/local/bricolage'; unshift(@INC,
> catdir($ENV{BRICOLAGE_ROOT}, 'lib'));
> };
> </Perl>
>
> PerlPassEnv BRICOLAGE_ROOT
> PerlModule Bric::App::ApacheConfig
> </VirtualHost>
>
> This is a separate conf file that I Include in Apache's httpd.conf.
> Will that work? Do I have to do special stuff with bricolage.conf
> and /usr/local/bricolage/conf/httpd.conf? I did change the
> NAME_VHOST and VHOST_SERVER_NAME but I'm guessing there's more to it
> than that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Hann
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Wheeler [mailto:david@wheeler.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:21 PM
> To: Hann, Brian
> Cc: Sam Tregar; bricolage-general@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Bricolage-General] Installing Bricolage 1.4.0
>
>
> On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 02:12 PM, Hann, Brian wrote:
>
> > I got all that installed but I had to manually clean out template1.
> > There's still a fucntion (login_avail) that I can't remove so I
> > commented out the SQL statement in the .sql file.
>
> Somehow you managed to put all the bricolage stuff in the template1
> database. You don't want to do that. It should go into its own
> database.
>
> If you're not using PostgreSQL for anything else, the best thing
> might be to shut down the postmaster, delete the data directory, and
> run initdb again. That'll create a brand new template1. Start the
> postmaster and try to install Bricolage again.
>
> > Right now I'm having problems starting Apache, something to do with
> > CharTrans.pm. I'm all closed down now, maybe I'll try next week.
>
> Do you have Text::Iconv installed? You'll need that, as well as the
> supporting libiconv library.
>
> HTH,
>
> David
>
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> Okay I actually got it working using bric_apachectl (this is version
> 1.4.0).
>
> Yes I did accidently load 1.2.3 into template1, I've never used
> Postgres before so I hope that's forgivable :) I got it all cleaned
> out, though.
>
> I would *like* to run bricolage as a vhost, since I already have
> stuff running on Apache. Here's what I have in my .conf file for
> bricolage:

I would suggest you run a separate apache process. Bric has a very
large footprint. See the example in the README file for running on
ports 81 and 444. the default configuration should work fine for that

Take a look at "top" from my machine and observe the memory image
size. The first three are my "other" copy of apache running Bric, the
rest are standard issue apache mod_perl +ssl

1557 web 11 0 24428 23M 24304 S 0.0 4.7 0:00 httpsd
1558 web 11 0 24428 23M 24304 S 0.0 4.7 0:00 httpsd
1555 root 11 0 24408 23M 24276 S 0.0 4.7 0:00 httpsd
16610 web 9 0 4888 4624 3484 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
16613 web 9 0 4936 4576 3052 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
16615 web 9 0 4928 4564 2884 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
16606 web 9 0 5012 4552 4044 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
16608 web 9 0 4760 4372 3736 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd

Michael

>
> <VirtualHost 10.7.4.164:80>
> ServerName bricolage.servername.com
> ServerAlias bricolage.servername.com
>
> <Perl>
> use File::Spec::Functions qw(catdir);
> BEGIN {
> $ENV{BRICOLAGE_ROOT} ||=
> '/usr/local/bricolage'; unshift(@INC,
> catdir($ENV{BRICOLAGE_ROOT}, 'lib'));
> };
> </Perl>
>
> PerlPassEnv BRICOLAGE_ROOT
> PerlModule Bric::App::ApacheConfig
> </VirtualHost>
>
> This is a separate conf file that I Include in Apache's httpd.conf.
> Will that work? Do I have to do special stuff with bricolage.conf
> and /usr/local/bricolage/conf/httpd.conf? I did change the
> NAME_VHOST and VHOST_SERVER_NAME but I'm guessing there's more to it
> than that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Hann
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Wheeler [mailto:david@wheeler.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:21 PM
> To: Hann, Brian
> Cc: Sam Tregar; bricolage-general@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Bricolage-General] Installing Bricolage 1.4.0
>
>
> On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 02:12 PM, Hann, Brian wrote:
>
> > I got all that installed but I had to manually clean out template1.
> > There's still a fucntion (login_avail) that I can't remove so I
> > commented out the SQL statement in the .sql file.
>
> Somehow you managed to put all the bricolage stuff in the template1
> database. You don't want to do that. It should go into its own
> database.
>
> If you're not using PostgreSQL for anything else, the best thing
> might be to shut down the postmaster, delete the data directory, and
> run initdb again. That'll create a brand new template1. Start the
> postmaster and try to install Bricolage again.
>
> > Right now I'm having problems starting Apache, something to do with
> > CharTrans.pm. I'm all closed down now, maybe I'll try next week.
>
> Do you have Text::Iconv installed? You'll need that, as well as the
> supporting libiconv library.
>
> HTH,
>
> David
>
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> But if I run it as a separate process I won't be able to use the
> same port will I?

no, but why do you need to?? If you want access for customers that
aren't to bright, you can always redirect them to the correct
page/port. There is no operational disadvantage. the advantage is
that you do not bog your machine down by requiring that ALL http
daemons support all of the BRIC code. Take another look at the
footprint of the two http daemons.

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael [mailto:michael@insulin-pumpers.org]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:51 PM
> To: bricolage-general@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Bricolage-General] Installing Bricolage 1.4.0
>
>
> > Okay I actually got it working using bric_apachectl (this is version
> > 1.4.0).
> >
> > Yes I did accidently load 1.2.3 into template1, I've never used
> > Postgres before so I hope that's forgivable :) I got it all cleaned
> > out, though.
> >
> > I would *like* to run bricolage as a vhost, since I already have
> > stuff running on Apache. Here's what I have in my .conf file for
> > bricolage:
>
> I would suggest you run a separate apache process. Bric has a very
> large footprint. See the example in the README file for running on
> ports 81 and 444. the default configuration should work fine for
> that
>
> Take a look at "top" from my machine and observe the memory image
> size. The first three are my "other" copy of apache running Bric,
> the rest are standard issue apache mod_perl +ssl
>
> 1557 web 11 0 24428 23M 24304 S 0.0 4.7 0:00 httpsd
> 1558 web 11 0 24428 23M 24304 S 0.0 4.7 0:00 httpsd
> 1555 root 11 0 24408 23M 24276 S 0.0 4.7 0:00 httpsd
> 16610 web 9 0 4888 4624 3484 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
> 16613 web 9 0 4936 4576 3052 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
> 16615 web 9 0 4928 4564 2884 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
> 16606 web 9 0 5012 4552 4044 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
> 16608 web 9 0 4760 4372 3736 S 0.0 0.8 0:00 httpsd
>
> Michael
>
> >
> > <VirtualHost 10.7.4.164:80>
> > ServerName bricolage.servername.com
> > ServerAlias bricolage.servername.com
> >
> > <Perl>
> > use File::Spec::Functions qw(catdir);
> > BEGIN {
> > $ENV{BRICOLAGE_ROOT} ||=
> > '/usr/local/bricolage'; unshift(@INC,
> > catdir($ENV{BRICOLAGE_ROOT}, 'lib'));
> > };
> > </Perl>
> >
> > PerlPassEnv BRICOLAGE_ROOT
> > PerlModule Bric::App::ApacheConfig
> > </VirtualHost>
> >
> > This is a separate conf file that I Include in Apache's httpd.conf.
> > Will that work? Do I have to do special stuff with bricolage.conf
> > and /usr/local/bricolage/conf/httpd.conf? I did change the
> > NAME_VHOST and VHOST_SERVER_NAME but I'm guessing there's more to it
> > than that.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian Hann
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Wheeler [mailto:david@wheeler.net]
> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:21 PM
> > To: Hann, Brian
> > Cc: Sam Tregar; bricolage-general@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Bricolage-General] Installing Bricolage 1.4.0
> >
> >
> > On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 02:12 PM, Hann, Brian wrote:
> >
> > > I got all that installed but I had to manually clean out template1.
> > > There's still a fucntion (login_avail) that I can't remove so I
> > > commented out the SQL statement in the .sql file.
> >
> > Somehow you managed to put all the bricolage stuff in the template1
> > database. You don't want to do that. It should go into its own
> > database.
> >
> > If you're not using PostgreSQL for anything else, the best thing
> > might be to shut down the postmaster, delete the data directory, and
> > run initdb again. That'll create a brand new template1. Start the
> > postmaster and try to install Bricolage again.
> >
> > > Right now I'm having problems starting Apache, something to do with
> > > CharTrans.pm. I'm all closed down now, maybe I'll try next week.
> >
> > Do you have Text::Iconv installed? You'll need that, as well as the
> > supporting libiconv library.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > David
> >
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