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Xen on OpenSSI?
Any thoughts on running Xen on OpenSSI? We have an app we'd like to
cluster but is expressly and completely incompatible with the OSes that
OpenSSI are supported on, but if we can run several Xen domains on a
cluster we can run those OSes and, naturally, that app.

Thoughts?

CD

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Re: Xen on OpenSSI? [ In reply to ]
Applying all the necessary changes to run the open SSI kernel under XEN
it should work. Notice that the openMosix kernel is currently being
ported to work under Xen.

Moshe


On Mar 29, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Chris de Vidal wrote:

> Any thoughts on running Xen on OpenSSI? We have an app we'd like to
> cluster but is expressly and completely incompatible with the OSes that
> OpenSSI are supported on, but if we can run several Xen domains on a
> cluster we can run those OSes and, naturally, that app.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> CD
>
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Re: Xen on OpenSSI? [ In reply to ]
Moshe Bar said this while chewing gum:
> Applying all the necessary changes to run the open SSI kernel under XEN
> it should work.

That's cool, but I was actually thinking the other way around... one
OpenSSI cluster with alotta Xen domains...


> Notice that the openMosix kernel is currently being ported to work under
> Xen.

Sweet!

CD

Have you ever lied, no matter the color? I have. Have you ever stolen
anything, no matter the value? I have. Have you ever lusted? I have.
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committed adultery with her in his heart.

We are lying, thieving, adulterers at heart and will face judgement one day.

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been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the
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Re: Xen on OpenSSI? [ In reply to ]
> That's cool, but I was actually thinking the other way around... one
> OpenSSI cluster with alotta Xen domains...

Do you mean running Xen *on top of* OpenSSI? Unfortunately you can't do that
because Xen runs under the OS kernel. Since it's not just an application you
can't use OpenSSI / openMosix to distribute it across multiple machines.

That said, you should be able to achieve the same sort of results by running
multiple OpenSSI / openMosix clusters on top of standard Xen.

HTH,
Mark

> > Notice that the openMosix kernel is currently being ported to work under
> > Xen.
>
> Sweet!
>
> CD
>
> Have you ever lied, no matter the color? I have. Have you ever stolen
> anything, no matter the value? I have. Have you ever lusted? I have.
> Jesus said whoever looks at a woman with lustful intent has already
> committed adultery with her in his heart.
>
> We are lying, thieving, adulterers at heart and will face judgement one
> day.
>
> There is good news for us! "God shows his love for us in that while we
> were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now
> been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the
> wrath of God." (Romans 5:8,9)
>
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Re: Xen on OpenSSI? [ In reply to ]
Mark Williamson said this while chewing gum:
>> That's cool, but I was actually thinking the other way around... one
>> OpenSSI cluster with alotta Xen domains...
>
> Do you mean running Xen *on top of* OpenSSI? Unfortunately you can't do
> that because Xen runs under the OS kernel. Since it's not just an
> application you can't use OpenSSI / openMosix to distribute it across
> multiple machines.

Bummer.


> That said, you should be able to achieve the same sort of results by
> running multiple OpenSSI / openMosix clusters on top of standard Xen.

Well as I said, we want to cluster this app and make it scale up AND
highly available; OpenSSI rocks for that but only runs on a handful of
OSes, all of which are *expressly* unsupported. In other words, it's not
just a matter of needing the company's blessing for tech support (which we
do), it just won't work period.

Oh well, perhaps UserMode Linux will do the job.

Thanks!

CD

Have you ever lied, no matter the color? I have. Have you ever stolen
anything, no matter the value? I have. Have you ever lusted? I have.
Jesus said whoever looks at a woman with lustful intent has already
committed adultery with her in his heart.

We are lying, thieving, adulterers at heart and will face judgement one day.

There is good news for us! "God shows his love for us in that while we
were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now
been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the
wrath of God." (Romans 5:8,9)

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Re: Xen on OpenSSI? [ In reply to ]
> > That said, you should be able to achieve the same sort of results by
> > running multiple OpenSSI / openMosix clusters on top of standard Xen.
>
> Well as I said, we want to cluster this app and make it scale up AND
> highly available; OpenSSI rocks for that but only runs on a handful of
> OSes, all of which are *expressly* unsupported.

Sorry, I had forgotten you said that.

> In other words, it's not
> just a matter of needing the company's blessing for tech support (which we
> do), it just won't work period.

Bummer!

Maybe the openMosix port will be useful to you when it's finished.

Good luck implementing your system!
Mark

> Oh well, perhaps UserMode Linux will do the job.
>
> Thanks!
>
> CD
>
> Have you ever lied, no matter the color? I have. Have you ever stolen
> anything, no matter the value? I have. Have you ever lusted? I have.
> Jesus said whoever looks at a woman with lustful intent has already
> committed adultery with her in his heart.
>
> We are lying, thieving, adulterers at heart and will face judgement one
> day.
>
> There is good news for us! "God shows his love for us in that while we
> were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now
> been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the
> wrath of God." (Romans 5:8,9)

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