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Service Decommission Notice: Mobile Content Service - July 2023
TL;DR: The legacy Mobile Content Service is going away in July 2023. Please
switch to Parsoid or another API before then to ensure service continuity.

Hello World,

I'm writing about a service decommission we hope to complete mid-July 2023.
The service to be decommissioned is the legacy Mobile Content Service
("MCS"), which is maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation's Content
Transform Team. We will be marking this service as deprecated soon.

We hope that with this notice, people will have ample time to update their
systems for use of other endpoints such as Parsoid [1] (n.b., MCS uses
Parsoid HTML).

The MCS endpoints are the ones with the relative URL path pattern
/page/mobile-sections* on the Wikipedias. For examples of the URLs see the
"Mobile" section on the online Swagger (OpenAPI) specification
documentation with matching URLs here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Mobile

== History ==

The Mobile Content Service ("MCS") is the historical aggregate service that
originally provided support for the article reading experience on the
Wikipedia for Android native app, as well as some other experiences. We
have noticed that there are other users of the service. We are not able to
determine all of the users, as it's hard to tell with confidence from the
web logs.

The Wikimedia Foundation had already transitioned the Wikipedia for
Android and iOS apps to the newer Page Content Service ("PCS") several
years ago. PCS has some similarities with MCS in terms of its mobility
focus, but it also has different request-response signatures in practice.
PCS, as with MCS, is intended to primarily satisfy Wikimedia
Foundation-maintained user experiences only, and so this is classified with
the "unstable" moniker.

== Looking ahead ==

Generally, as noted in the lead, we recommend that folks who use MCS (or
PCS, for that matter) switch over to Parsoid for accessing Wikipedia
article content programmatically for the most predictable service.

The HTML produced by Parsoid has a versioned specification [2] and because
Parsoid is accessed regularly by a number of components across the globe
tends to have fairly well cached responses. However, please note that
Parsoid may be subject to stricter rate limits that can apply under certain
traffic patterns.

At this point, I do also want to note that in order to keep up with
contemporary HTML standards, particularly those favoring accessibility and
machine readability enhancements, Parsoid HTML will undergo change as we
further converge parsing stacks [3]. Generally, you should expect iteration
on the Parsoid HTML spec, and of course as you may have come to appreciate
that the shape of HTML in practice can vary nontrivially wiki-by-wiki as
practices across wikis vary.

You may also want to consider Wikimedia Enterprise API options, which range
from no cost to higher volume access paid options.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise#Access

== Forking okay, but not recommended ==

Because MCS acts as a service aggregate and makes multiple backend API
calls, caveats can apply for those subresources - possibility of API
changes, deprecation, and the like. We do not recommend a plain fork of MCS
code because of the subresource fetch behavior. This said, of course you
are welcome to fork in a way compatible with MCS's license.


== Help spread the word ==

Although we are aware of the top two remaining consumers of MCS, we also
are not sure who else is accessing MCS and anticipate that some downstream
tech may break when MCS is turned off. As we are cross-posting this
message, we hope most people who have come to rely upon MCS will see this
message. Please feel free to forward this message to contacts if you know
they are using MCS.

== Help ==

Although we intend to decommission MCS in July 2023, we would like to share
resources if you need some help. We plan to hold office hours in case you
would like to meet with us to discuss this or other Content Transform Team
matters. We will host these events on Google Meet. We will provide notice
of these office hours on the wikitech-l mailing list in the coming weeks
and months.

Additionally, if you would like to discuss your MCS transition plans,
please visit the Content Transform Team talk page:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_Transform_Team

Finally, some Content Transform Team members will also be at the Wikimedia
Hackathon [4] if you would like some in-person support.


Thank you.

Adam Baso (he/him/his/Adam), on behalf of the Content Transform Team
Director of Engineering
Wikimedia Foundation


[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid

[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Specs/HTML

[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Parser_Unification/Updates

[4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023
Re: Service Decommission Notice: Mobile Content Service - July 2023 [ In reply to ]
Hello Again World,

The Google Meets for live discussion about MCS decommissioning will be held
during the upcoming week for those needing assistance. There are two
sessions on Thursday, 11 May 2023, and we hope they will provide for decent
timezone coverage. Please see details below and add an entry to your
calendar if you would like to meet synchronously this way.

Additionally, as noted before, there will be Content Transform Team members
at the Wikimedia Hackathon 19-21 May 2023. Ask around if you are there, and
consider helping others who may be transitioning their components off of
MCS.

If it is better for you to discuss asynchronously, please as always feel
free to use https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_Transform_Team .

We have reached out to a handful of additionally identified MCS re-users
where there were some clues in the User-Agent fields from the web request
logs. If you or someone you know has a bot, gadget, user script, Scribunto
Lua module, or extension* (or other component, for that matter!) using MCS,
we would appreciate your help in further spreading the word and helping
migrate active use.

== Google Meet Details ==

Thursday, 11-May-2023 - 1100-1200 UTC (0400 - 0500 San Francisco)
Videoconference: https://meet.google.com/mcc-gdew-xit
Telephone numbers in case of audio issues:
https://tel.meet/mcc-gdew-xit?pin=3225094353686&hs=1


Thursday, 11-May-2023 - 1800-1900 UTC (1100 - 1200 San Francisco)
Videoconference: https://meet.google.com/mcc-gdew-xit
Telephone numbers in case of audio issues:
https://tel.meet/mcc-gdew-xit?pin=3225094353686&hs=1

Please refer to https://support.google.com/meet/answer/7317473 for system
requirements for using Google Meet.

Thank you!
Adam Baso, on behalf of the Content Transform Team

*
https://codesearch.wmcloud.org/search/?q=mobile-sections&files=&excludeFiles=&repos=
is not suggestive of unknown things.
https://global-search.toolforge.org/?q=%22mobile-sections%22&namespaces=&title=
is not suggestive of obvious on-site user generated content / code (a regex
search seems to possibly be too exhaustive as these searches are inherently
slow, but in theory would not turn up anything extra anyway as a simple
string search should be sufficient). It is certainly the case that there
are repos discovered via
https://github.com/search?q=mobile-sections&type=code , but it's a bit of a
stretch to determine reliably if things are even running and where. As this
message is going out, it dawns on oneself that
https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/ repos could be a target for searches, but
this may require enabling global search
<https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/search/> (will need to check with a GitLab
admin if that can be done outside of an EE installation easily) or perhaps
a scripted search across each individual repos...TBD.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:45?AM Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> TL;DR: The legacy Mobile Content Service is going away in July 2023.
> Please switch to Parsoid or another API before then to ensure service
> continuity.
>
> Hello World,
>
> I'm writing about a service decommission we hope to complete mid-July
> 2023. The service to be decommissioned is the legacy Mobile Content Service
> ("MCS"), which is maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation's Content
> Transform Team. We will be marking this service as deprecated soon.
>
> We hope that with this notice, people will have ample time to update their
> systems for use of other endpoints such as Parsoid [1] (n.b., MCS uses
> Parsoid HTML).
>
> The MCS endpoints are the ones with the relative URL path pattern
> /page/mobile-sections* on the Wikipedias. For examples of the URLs see the
> "Mobile" section on the online Swagger (OpenAPI) specification
> documentation with matching URLs here:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Mobile
>
> == History ==
>
> The Mobile Content Service ("MCS") is the historical aggregate service
> that originally provided support for the article reading experience on the
> Wikipedia for Android native app, as well as some other experiences. We
> have noticed that there are other users of the service. We are not able to
> determine all of the users, as it's hard to tell with confidence from the
> web logs.
>
> The Wikimedia Foundation had already transitioned the Wikipedia for
> Android and iOS apps to the newer Page Content Service ("PCS") several
> years ago. PCS has some similarities with MCS in terms of its mobility
> focus, but it also has different request-response signatures in practice.
> PCS, as with MCS, is intended to primarily satisfy Wikimedia
> Foundation-maintained user experiences only, and so this is classified with
> the "unstable" moniker.
>
> == Looking ahead ==
>
> Generally, as noted in the lead, we recommend that folks who use MCS (or
> PCS, for that matter) switch over to Parsoid for accessing Wikipedia
> article content programmatically for the most predictable service.
>
> The HTML produced by Parsoid has a versioned specification [2] and because
> Parsoid is accessed regularly by a number of components across the globe
> tends to have fairly well cached responses. However, please note that
> Parsoid may be subject to stricter rate limits that can apply under certain
> traffic patterns.
>
> At this point, I do also want to note that in order to keep up with
> contemporary HTML standards, particularly those favoring accessibility and
> machine readability enhancements, Parsoid HTML will undergo change as we
> further converge parsing stacks [3]. Generally, you should expect iteration
> on the Parsoid HTML spec, and of course as you may have come to appreciate
> that the shape of HTML in practice can vary nontrivially wiki-by-wiki as
> practices across wikis vary.
>
> You may also want to consider Wikimedia Enterprise API options, which
> range from no cost to higher volume access paid options.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise#Access
>
> == Forking okay, but not recommended ==
>
> Because MCS acts as a service aggregate and makes multiple backend API
> calls, caveats can apply for those subresources - possibility of API
> changes, deprecation, and the like. We do not recommend a plain fork of MCS
> code because of the subresource fetch behavior. This said, of course you
> are welcome to fork in a way compatible with MCS's license.
>
>
> == Help spread the word ==
>
> Although we are aware of the top two remaining consumers of MCS, we also
> are not sure who else is accessing MCS and anticipate that some downstream
> tech may break when MCS is turned off. As we are cross-posting this
> message, we hope most people who have come to rely upon MCS will see this
> message. Please feel free to forward this message to contacts if you know
> they are using MCS.
>
> == Help ==
>
> Although we intend to decommission MCS in July 2023, we would like to
> share resources if you need some help. We plan to hold office hours in case
> you would like to meet with us to discuss this or other Content Transform
> Team matters. We will host these events on Google Meet. We will provide
> notice of these office hours on the wikitech-l mailing list in the coming
> weeks and months.
>
> Additionally, if you would like to discuss your MCS transition plans,
> please visit the Content Transform Team talk page:
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_Transform_Team
>
> Finally, some Content Transform Team members will also be at the Wikimedia
> Hackathon [4] if you would like some in-person support.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Adam Baso (he/him/his/Adam), on behalf of the Content Transform Team
> Director of Engineering
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid
>
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Specs/HTML
>
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Parser_Unification/Updates
>
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023
>
Re: Service Decommission Notice: Mobile Content Service - July 2023 [ In reply to ]
Thanks for the notification!

Is this related to the messages that are translated as part of the "Page
Content Service" project? Some of them are displayed in very prominent
places.

Here's a list of translatable messages:
https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=&action=page&language=es&group=pagecontentservice

And here's the source repo:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/services/mobileapps/+/refs/heads/master

Is that the one that's being decommissioned? And if it is, will the
translations still be necessary anywhere, or will they become obsolete?

Or is it something unrelated?

?????? ??? ??, 22 ???? 2023, 11:46, ??? Adam Baso ?<abaso@wikimedia.org>:

> TL;DR: The legacy Mobile Content Service is going away in July 2023.
> Please switch to Parsoid or another API before then to ensure service
> continuity.
>
> Hello World,
>
> I'm writing about a service decommission we hope to complete mid-July
> 2023. The service to be decommissioned is the legacy Mobile Content Service
> ("MCS"), which is maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation's Content
> Transform Team. We will be marking this service as deprecated soon.
>
> We hope that with this notice, people will have ample time to update their
> systems for use of other endpoints such as Parsoid [1] (n.b., MCS uses
> Parsoid HTML).
>
> The MCS endpoints are the ones with the relative URL path pattern
> /page/mobile-sections* on the Wikipedias. For examples of the URLs see the
> "Mobile" section on the online Swagger (OpenAPI) specification
> documentation with matching URLs here:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Mobile
>
> == History ==
>
> The Mobile Content Service ("MCS") is the historical aggregate service
> that originally provided support for the article reading experience on the
> Wikipedia for Android native app, as well as some other experiences. We
> have noticed that there are other users of the service. We are not able to
> determine all of the users, as it's hard to tell with confidence from the
> web logs.
>
> The Wikimedia Foundation had already transitioned the Wikipedia for
> Android and iOS apps to the newer Page Content Service ("PCS") several
> years ago. PCS has some similarities with MCS in terms of its mobility
> focus, but it also has different request-response signatures in practice.
> PCS, as with MCS, is intended to primarily satisfy Wikimedia
> Foundation-maintained user experiences only, and so this is classified with
> the "unstable" moniker.
>
> == Looking ahead ==
>
> Generally, as noted in the lead, we recommend that folks who use MCS (or
> PCS, for that matter) switch over to Parsoid for accessing Wikipedia
> article content programmatically for the most predictable service.
>
> The HTML produced by Parsoid has a versioned specification [2] and because
> Parsoid is accessed regularly by a number of components across the globe
> tends to have fairly well cached responses. However, please note that
> Parsoid may be subject to stricter rate limits that can apply under certain
> traffic patterns.
>
> At this point, I do also want to note that in order to keep up with
> contemporary HTML standards, particularly those favoring accessibility and
> machine readability enhancements, Parsoid HTML will undergo change as we
> further converge parsing stacks [3]. Generally, you should expect iteration
> on the Parsoid HTML spec, and of course as you may have come to appreciate
> that the shape of HTML in practice can vary nontrivially wiki-by-wiki as
> practices across wikis vary.
>
> You may also want to consider Wikimedia Enterprise API options, which
> range from no cost to higher volume access paid options.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise#Access
>
> == Forking okay, but not recommended ==
>
> Because MCS acts as a service aggregate and makes multiple backend API
> calls, caveats can apply for those subresources - possibility of API
> changes, deprecation, and the like. We do not recommend a plain fork of MCS
> code because of the subresource fetch behavior. This said, of course you
> are welcome to fork in a way compatible with MCS's license.
>
>
> == Help spread the word ==
>
> Although we are aware of the top two remaining consumers of MCS, we also
> are not sure who else is accessing MCS and anticipate that some downstream
> tech may break when MCS is turned off. As we are cross-posting this
> message, we hope most people who have come to rely upon MCS will see this
> message. Please feel free to forward this message to contacts if you know
> they are using MCS.
>
> == Help ==
>
> Although we intend to decommission MCS in July 2023, we would like to
> share resources if you need some help. We plan to hold office hours in case
> you would like to meet with us to discuss this or other Content Transform
> Team matters. We will host these events on Google Meet. We will provide
> notice of these office hours on the wikitech-l mailing list in the coming
> weeks and months.
>
> Additionally, if you would like to discuss your MCS transition plans,
> please visit the Content Transform Team talk page:
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_Transform_Team
>
> Finally, some Content Transform Team members will also be at the Wikimedia
> Hackathon [4] if you would like some in-person support.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Adam Baso (he/him/his/Adam), on behalf of the Content Transform Team
> Director of Engineering
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid
>
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Specs/HTML
>
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Parser_Unification/Updates
>
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023
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Re: Service Decommission Notice: Mobile Content Service - July 2023 [ In reply to ]
Hi Amir,

The Page Content Service ("PCS") is the currently supported service, it's
the legacy deprecated Mobile Content Service ("MCS") that is going away in
July 2023. I don't think those messages should be affected as they're part
of PCS, but I'll flag for attention with folks supporting the Android app
and ask for their guidance in case there's an use of shared messages
between the old versions of the app and the new versions of the app, and
will update the list if I'm mistaken.

Thank you!
-Adam

On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 9:39?AM Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>
wrote:

> Thanks for the notification!
>
> Is this related to the messages that are translated as part of the "Page
> Content Service" project? Some of them are displayed in very prominent
> places.
>
> Here's a list of translatable messages:
>
> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=&action=page&language=es&group=pagecontentservice
>
> And here's the source repo:
>
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/services/mobileapps/+/refs/heads/master
>
> Is that the one that's being decommissioned? And if it is, will the
> translations still be necessary anywhere, or will they become obsolete?
>
> Or is it something unrelated?
>
> ?????? ??? ??, 22 ???? 2023, 11:46, ??? Adam Baso ?<abaso@wikimedia.org>:
>
>> TL;DR: The legacy Mobile Content Service is going away in July 2023.
>> Please switch to Parsoid or another API before then to ensure service
>> continuity.
>>
>> Hello World,
>>
>> I'm writing about a service decommission we hope to complete mid-July
>> 2023. The service to be decommissioned is the legacy Mobile Content Service
>> ("MCS"), which is maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation's Content
>> Transform Team. We will be marking this service as deprecated soon.
>>
>> We hope that with this notice, people will have ample time to update
>> their systems for use of other endpoints such as Parsoid [1] (n.b., MCS
>> uses Parsoid HTML).
>>
>> The MCS endpoints are the ones with the relative URL path pattern
>> /page/mobile-sections* on the Wikipedias. For examples of the URLs see the
>> "Mobile" section on the online Swagger (OpenAPI) specification
>> documentation with matching URLs here:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Mobile
>>
>> == History ==
>>
>> The Mobile Content Service ("MCS") is the historical aggregate service
>> that originally provided support for the article reading experience on the
>> Wikipedia for Android native app, as well as some other experiences. We
>> have noticed that there are other users of the service. We are not able to
>> determine all of the users, as it's hard to tell with confidence from the
>> web logs.
>>
>> The Wikimedia Foundation had already transitioned the Wikipedia for
>> Android and iOS apps to the newer Page Content Service ("PCS") several
>> years ago. PCS has some similarities with MCS in terms of its mobility
>> focus, but it also has different request-response signatures in practice.
>> PCS, as with MCS, is intended to primarily satisfy Wikimedia
>> Foundation-maintained user experiences only, and so this is classified with
>> the "unstable" moniker.
>>
>> == Looking ahead ==
>>
>> Generally, as noted in the lead, we recommend that folks who use MCS (or
>> PCS, for that matter) switch over to Parsoid for accessing Wikipedia
>> article content programmatically for the most predictable service.
>>
>> The HTML produced by Parsoid has a versioned specification [2] and
>> because Parsoid is accessed regularly by a number of components across the
>> globe tends to have fairly well cached responses. However, please note that
>> Parsoid may be subject to stricter rate limits that can apply under certain
>> traffic patterns.
>>
>> At this point, I do also want to note that in order to keep up with
>> contemporary HTML standards, particularly those favoring accessibility and
>> machine readability enhancements, Parsoid HTML will undergo change as we
>> further converge parsing stacks [3]. Generally, you should expect iteration
>> on the Parsoid HTML spec, and of course as you may have come to appreciate
>> that the shape of HTML in practice can vary nontrivially wiki-by-wiki as
>> practices across wikis vary.
>>
>> You may also want to consider Wikimedia Enterprise API options, which
>> range from no cost to higher volume access paid options.
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise#Access
>>
>> == Forking okay, but not recommended ==
>>
>> Because MCS acts as a service aggregate and makes multiple backend API
>> calls, caveats can apply for those subresources - possibility of API
>> changes, deprecation, and the like. We do not recommend a plain fork of MCS
>> code because of the subresource fetch behavior. This said, of course you
>> are welcome to fork in a way compatible with MCS's license.
>>
>>
>> == Help spread the word ==
>>
>> Although we are aware of the top two remaining consumers of MCS, we also
>> are not sure who else is accessing MCS and anticipate that some downstream
>> tech may break when MCS is turned off. As we are cross-posting this
>> message, we hope most people who have come to rely upon MCS will see this
>> message. Please feel free to forward this message to contacts if you know
>> they are using MCS.
>>
>> == Help ==
>>
>> Although we intend to decommission MCS in July 2023, we would like to
>> share resources if you need some help. We plan to hold office hours in case
>> you would like to meet with us to discuss this or other Content Transform
>> Team matters. We will host these events on Google Meet. We will provide
>> notice of these office hours on the wikitech-l mailing list in the coming
>> weeks and months.
>>
>> Additionally, if you would like to discuss your MCS transition plans,
>> please visit the Content Transform Team talk page:
>>
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_Transform_Team
>>
>> Finally, some Content Transform Team members will also be at the
>> Wikimedia Hackathon [4] if you would like some in-person support.
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Adam Baso (he/him/his/Adam), on behalf of the Content Transform Team
>> Director of Engineering
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid
>>
>> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Specs/HTML
>>
>> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Parser_Unification/Updates
>>
>> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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Re: Service Decommission Notice: Mobile Content Service - July 2023 [ In reply to ]
Sounds good, thanks!

?????? ??? ??, 5 ???? 2023, 18:48, ??? Adam Baso ?<abaso@wikimedia.org>:

> Hi Amir,
>
> The Page Content Service ("PCS") is the currently supported service, it's
> the legacy deprecated Mobile Content Service ("MCS") that is going away in
> July 2023. I don't think those messages should be affected as they're part
> of PCS, but I'll flag for attention with folks supporting the Android app
> and ask for their guidance in case there's an use of shared messages
> between the old versions of the app and the new versions of the app, and
> will update the list if I'm mistaken.
>
> Thank you!
> -Adam
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 9:39?AM Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the notification!
>>
>> Is this related to the messages that are translated as part of the "Page
>> Content Service" project? Some of them are displayed in very prominent
>> places.
>>
>> Here's a list of translatable messages:
>>
>> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=&action=page&language=es&group=pagecontentservice
>>
>> And here's the source repo:
>>
>> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/services/mobileapps/+/refs/heads/master
>>
>> Is that the one that's being decommissioned? And if it is, will the
>> translations still be necessary anywhere, or will they become obsolete?
>>
>> Or is it something unrelated?
>>
>> ?????? ??? ??, 22 ???? 2023, 11:46, ??? Adam Baso ?<abaso@wikimedia.org>:
>>
>>> TL;DR: The legacy Mobile Content Service is going away in July 2023.
>>> Please switch to Parsoid or another API before then to ensure service
>>> continuity.
>>>
>>> Hello World,
>>>
>>> I'm writing about a service decommission we hope to complete mid-July
>>> 2023. The service to be decommissioned is the legacy Mobile Content Service
>>> ("MCS"), which is maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation's Content
>>> Transform Team. We will be marking this service as deprecated soon.
>>>
>>> We hope that with this notice, people will have ample time to update
>>> their systems for use of other endpoints such as Parsoid [1] (n.b., MCS
>>> uses Parsoid HTML).
>>>
>>> The MCS endpoints are the ones with the relative URL path pattern
>>> /page/mobile-sections* on the Wikipedias. For examples of the URLs see the
>>> "Mobile" section on the online Swagger (OpenAPI) specification
>>> documentation with matching URLs here:
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Mobile
>>>
>>> == History ==
>>>
>>> The Mobile Content Service ("MCS") is the historical aggregate service
>>> that originally provided support for the article reading experience on the
>>> Wikipedia for Android native app, as well as some other experiences. We
>>> have noticed that there are other users of the service. We are not able to
>>> determine all of the users, as it's hard to tell with confidence from the
>>> web logs.
>>>
>>> The Wikimedia Foundation had already transitioned the Wikipedia for
>>> Android and iOS apps to the newer Page Content Service ("PCS") several
>>> years ago. PCS has some similarities with MCS in terms of its mobility
>>> focus, but it also has different request-response signatures in practice.
>>> PCS, as with MCS, is intended to primarily satisfy Wikimedia
>>> Foundation-maintained user experiences only, and so this is classified with
>>> the "unstable" moniker.
>>>
>>> == Looking ahead ==
>>>
>>> Generally, as noted in the lead, we recommend that folks who use MCS (or
>>> PCS, for that matter) switch over to Parsoid for accessing Wikipedia
>>> article content programmatically for the most predictable service.
>>>
>>> The HTML produced by Parsoid has a versioned specification [2] and
>>> because Parsoid is accessed regularly by a number of components across the
>>> globe tends to have fairly well cached responses. However, please note that
>>> Parsoid may be subject to stricter rate limits that can apply under certain
>>> traffic patterns.
>>>
>>> At this point, I do also want to note that in order to keep up with
>>> contemporary HTML standards, particularly those favoring accessibility and
>>> machine readability enhancements, Parsoid HTML will undergo change as we
>>> further converge parsing stacks [3]. Generally, you should expect iteration
>>> on the Parsoid HTML spec, and of course as you may have come to appreciate
>>> that the shape of HTML in practice can vary nontrivially wiki-by-wiki as
>>> practices across wikis vary.
>>>
>>> You may also want to consider Wikimedia Enterprise API options, which
>>> range from no cost to higher volume access paid options.
>>>
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise#Access
>>>
>>> == Forking okay, but not recommended ==
>>>
>>> Because MCS acts as a service aggregate and makes multiple backend API
>>> calls, caveats can apply for those subresources - possibility of API
>>> changes, deprecation, and the like. We do not recommend a plain fork of MCS
>>> code because of the subresource fetch behavior. This said, of course you
>>> are welcome to fork in a way compatible with MCS's license.
>>>
>>>
>>> == Help spread the word ==
>>>
>>> Although we are aware of the top two remaining consumers of MCS, we also
>>> are not sure who else is accessing MCS and anticipate that some downstream
>>> tech may break when MCS is turned off. As we are cross-posting this
>>> message, we hope most people who have come to rely upon MCS will see this
>>> message. Please feel free to forward this message to contacts if you know
>>> they are using MCS.
>>>
>>> == Help ==
>>>
>>> Although we intend to decommission MCS in July 2023, we would like to
>>> share resources if you need some help. We plan to hold office hours in case
>>> you would like to meet with us to discuss this or other Content Transform
>>> Team matters. We will host these events on Google Meet. We will provide
>>> notice of these office hours on the wikitech-l mailing list in the coming
>>> weeks and months.
>>>
>>> Additionally, if you would like to discuss your MCS transition plans,
>>> please visit the Content Transform Team talk page:
>>>
>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_Transform_Team
>>>
>>> Finally, some Content Transform Team members will also be at the
>>> Wikimedia Hackathon [4] if you would like some in-person support.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Adam Baso (he/him/his/Adam), on behalf of the Content Transform Team
>>> Director of Engineering
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid
>>>
>>> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Specs/HTML
>>>
>>> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Parser_Unification/Updates
>>>
>>> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023
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Re: Service Decommission Notice: Mobile Content Service - July 2023 [ In reply to ]
Following up here, we don't see a risk with those PCS messages.

On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 10:47 AM Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi Amir,
>
> The Page Content Service ("PCS") is the currently supported service, it's
> the legacy deprecated Mobile Content Service ("MCS") that is going away in
> July 2023. I don't think those messages should be affected as they're part
> of PCS, but I'll flag for attention with folks supporting the Android app
> and ask for their guidance in case there's an use of shared messages
> between the old versions of the app and the new versions of the app, and
> will update the list if I'm mistaken.
>
> Thank you!
> -Adam
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 9:39?AM Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the notification!
>>
>> Is this related to the messages that are translated as part of the "Page
>> Content Service" project? Some of them are displayed in very prominent
>> places.
>>
>> Here's a list of translatable messages:
>>
>> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=&action=page&language=es&group=pagecontentservice
>>
>> And here's the source repo:
>>
>> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/services/mobileapps/+/refs/heads/master
>>
>> Is that the one that's being decommissioned? And if it is, will the
>> translations still be necessary anywhere, or will they become obsolete?
>>
>> Or is it something unrelated?
>>
>> ?????? ??? ??, 22 ???? 2023, 11:46, ??? Adam Baso ?<abaso@wikimedia.org>:
>>
>>> TL;DR: The legacy Mobile Content Service is going away in July 2023.
>>> Please switch to Parsoid or another API before then to ensure service
>>> continuity.
>>>
>>> Hello World,
>>>
>>> I'm writing about a service decommission we hope to complete mid-July
>>> 2023. The service to be decommissioned is the legacy Mobile Content Service
>>> ("MCS"), which is maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation's Content
>>> Transform Team. We will be marking this service as deprecated soon.
>>>
>>> We hope that with this notice, people will have ample time to update
>>> their systems for use of other endpoints such as Parsoid [1] (n.b., MCS
>>> uses Parsoid HTML).
>>>
>>> The MCS endpoints are the ones with the relative URL path pattern
>>> /page/mobile-sections* on the Wikipedias. For examples of the URLs see the
>>> "Mobile" section on the online Swagger (OpenAPI) specification
>>> documentation with matching URLs here:
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Mobile
>>>
>>> == History ==
>>>
>>> The Mobile Content Service ("MCS") is the historical aggregate service
>>> that originally provided support for the article reading experience on the
>>> Wikipedia for Android native app, as well as some other experiences. We
>>> have noticed that there are other users of the service. We are not able to
>>> determine all of the users, as it's hard to tell with confidence from the
>>> web logs.
>>>
>>> The Wikimedia Foundation had already transitioned the Wikipedia for
>>> Android and iOS apps to the newer Page Content Service ("PCS") several
>>> years ago. PCS has some similarities with MCS in terms of its mobility
>>> focus, but it also has different request-response signatures in practice.
>>> PCS, as with MCS, is intended to primarily satisfy Wikimedia
>>> Foundation-maintained user experiences only, and so this is classified with
>>> the "unstable" moniker.
>>>
>>> == Looking ahead ==
>>>
>>> Generally, as noted in the lead, we recommend that folks who use MCS (or
>>> PCS, for that matter) switch over to Parsoid for accessing Wikipedia
>>> article content programmatically for the most predictable service.
>>>
>>> The HTML produced by Parsoid has a versioned specification [2] and
>>> because Parsoid is accessed regularly by a number of components across the
>>> globe tends to have fairly well cached responses. However, please note that
>>> Parsoid may be subject to stricter rate limits that can apply under certain
>>> traffic patterns.
>>>
>>> At this point, I do also want to note that in order to keep up with
>>> contemporary HTML standards, particularly those favoring accessibility and
>>> machine readability enhancements, Parsoid HTML will undergo change as we
>>> further converge parsing stacks [3]. Generally, you should expect iteration
>>> on the Parsoid HTML spec, and of course as you may have come to appreciate
>>> that the shape of HTML in practice can vary nontrivially wiki-by-wiki as
>>> practices across wikis vary.
>>>
>>> You may also want to consider Wikimedia Enterprise API options, which
>>> range from no cost to higher volume access paid options.
>>>
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise#Access
>>>
>>> == Forking okay, but not recommended ==
>>>
>>> Because MCS acts as a service aggregate and makes multiple backend API
>>> calls, caveats can apply for those subresources - possibility of API
>>> changes, deprecation, and the like. We do not recommend a plain fork of MCS
>>> code because of the subresource fetch behavior. This said, of course you
>>> are welcome to fork in a way compatible with MCS's license.
>>>
>>>
>>> == Help spread the word ==
>>>
>>> Although we are aware of the top two remaining consumers of MCS, we also
>>> are not sure who else is accessing MCS and anticipate that some downstream
>>> tech may break when MCS is turned off. As we are cross-posting this
>>> message, we hope most people who have come to rely upon MCS will see this
>>> message. Please feel free to forward this message to contacts if you know
>>> they are using MCS.
>>>
>>> == Help ==
>>>
>>> Although we intend to decommission MCS in July 2023, we would like to
>>> share resources if you need some help. We plan to hold office hours in case
>>> you would like to meet with us to discuss this or other Content Transform
>>> Team matters. We will host these events on Google Meet. We will provide
>>> notice of these office hours on the wikitech-l mailing list in the coming
>>> weeks and months.
>>>
>>> Additionally, if you would like to discuss your MCS transition plans,
>>> please visit the Content Transform Team talk page:
>>>
>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_Transform_Team
>>>
>>> Finally, some Content Transform Team members will also be at the
>>> Wikimedia Hackathon [4] if you would like some in-person support.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Adam Baso (he/him/his/Adam), on behalf of the Content Transform Team
>>> Director of Engineering
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid
>>>
>>> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Specs/HTML
>>>
>>> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Parser_Unification/Updates
>>>
>>> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023
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>
Re: Service Decommission Notice: Mobile Content Service - July 2023 [ In reply to ]
Hello Everyone,

Today marks the date we mentioned in our previous emails. Effective
immediately, the legacy Mobile Content Service (MCS) is deprecated. This is
in line with our plan to transition towards more modern and efficient
systems like Parsoid or other APIs. We hope you have managed to update your
systems and are ready to embrace the change.

We understand that this is a significant change and it may pose some
challenges. If you have any questions or concerns, don't hesitate to get in
touch with us through e-mail, Phabricator or at the Content Transform Team
talk page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_Transform_Team

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation during this transition. We
look forward to supporting you and continuing to improve your Wikipedia
experience.

Best Regards,

Mateus Santos, on behalf of the Content Transform Team
Senior Software Engineer
Wikimedia Foundation

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:46?AM Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> TL;DR: The legacy Mobile Content Service is going away in July 2023.
> Please switch to Parsoid or another API before then to ensure service
> continuity.
>
> Hello World,
>
> I'm writing about a service decommission we hope to complete mid-July
> 2023. The service to be decommissioned is the legacy Mobile Content Service
> ("MCS"), which is maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation's Content
> Transform Team. We will be marking this service as deprecated soon.
>
> We hope that with this notice, people will have ample time to update their
> systems for use of other endpoints such as Parsoid [1] (n.b., MCS uses
> Parsoid HTML).
>
> The MCS endpoints are the ones with the relative URL path pattern
> /page/mobile-sections* on the Wikipedias. For examples of the URLs see the
> "Mobile" section on the online Swagger (OpenAPI) specification
> documentation with matching URLs here:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Mobile
>
> == History ==
>
> The Mobile Content Service ("MCS") is the historical aggregate service
> that originally provided support for the article reading experience on the
> Wikipedia for Android native app, as well as some other experiences. We
> have noticed that there are other users of the service. We are not able to
> determine all of the users, as it's hard to tell with confidence from the
> web logs.
>
> The Wikimedia Foundation had already transitioned the Wikipedia for
> Android and iOS apps to the newer Page Content Service ("PCS") several
> years ago. PCS has some similarities with MCS in terms of its mobility
> focus, but it also has different request-response signatures in practice.
> PCS, as with MCS, is intended to primarily satisfy Wikimedia
> Foundation-maintained user experiences only, and so this is classified with
> the "unstable" moniker.
>
> == Looking ahead ==
>
> Generally, as noted in the lead, we recommend that folks who use MCS (or
> PCS, for that matter) switch over to Parsoid for accessing Wikipedia
> article content programmatically for the most predictable service.
>
> The HTML produced by Parsoid has a versioned specification [2] and because
> Parsoid is accessed regularly by a number of components across the globe
> tends to have fairly well cached responses. However, please note that
> Parsoid may be subject to stricter rate limits that can apply under certain
> traffic patterns.
>
> At this point, I do also want to note that in order to keep up with
> contemporary HTML standards, particularly those favoring accessibility and
> machine readability enhancements, Parsoid HTML will undergo change as we
> further converge parsing stacks [3]. Generally, you should expect iteration
> on the Parsoid HTML spec, and of course as you may have come to appreciate
> that the shape of HTML in practice can vary nontrivially wiki-by-wiki as
> practices across wikis vary.
>
> You may also want to consider Wikimedia Enterprise API options, which
> range from no cost to higher volume access paid options.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise#Access
>
> == Forking okay, but not recommended ==
>
> Because MCS acts as a service aggregate and makes multiple backend API
> calls, caveats can apply for those subresources - possibility of API
> changes, deprecation, and the like. We do not recommend a plain fork of MCS
> code because of the subresource fetch behavior. This said, of course you
> are welcome to fork in a way compatible with MCS's license.
>
>
> == Help spread the word ==
>
> Although we are aware of the top two remaining consumers of MCS, we also
> are not sure who else is accessing MCS and anticipate that some downstream
> tech may break when MCS is turned off. As we are cross-posting this
> message, we hope most people who have come to rely upon MCS will see this
> message. Please feel free to forward this message to contacts if you know
> they are using MCS.
>
> == Help ==
>
> Although we intend to decommission MCS in July 2023, we would like to
> share resources if you need some help. We plan to hold office hours in case
> you would like to meet with us to discuss this or other Content Transform
> Team matters. We will host these events on Google Meet. We will provide
> notice of these office hours on the wikitech-l mailing list in the coming
> weeks and months.
>
> Additionally, if you would like to discuss your MCS transition plans,
> please visit the Content Transform Team talk page:
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_Transform_Team
>
> Finally, some Content Transform Team members will also be at the Wikimedia
> Hackathon [4] if you would like some in-person support.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Adam Baso (he/him/his/Adam), on behalf of the Content Transform Team
> Director of Engineering
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid
>
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Specs/HTML
>
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Parser_Unification/Updates
>
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023
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