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Hello Alexandra, for the survey I would suggest you to take a look to the following extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CIForms in case you would like to avoid to rely on an external service and their terms. (Thomas) Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:04 AM
From: "Alexandra Shagzhina" <alexandra@empower-eag.com>
To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Small Wiki Tools User Feedback Survey Hello everyone,

I am an Outreachy participant in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_23"]Round 23 [1], working on a project to develop demo videos and toolkits to demonstrate the use of essential tools for smaller wiki communities: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135"]https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135> [2].

This Outreachy project is part of the larger Small wiki toolkits project to build technical capacity in smaller language wiki communities. More about the initiative: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits"]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits> [3].

As part of the project, we are running a survey to gather information about the tools that you find most helpful for your work on the wikis that might benefit for video documentation for others. It will not take longer than 5 minutes to fill out this survey; your feedback will be super valuable for us! <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform"]https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform> [4].

This survey is conducted via a third-party service, which may subject it to additional terms. For more information on privacy and data handling, see the survey privacy statement: <https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement"]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement> [5].

Best,

Alexandra

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_23"]https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_23

[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135"]https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135

[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits"]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits

[4] https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform"]https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform

[5] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement"]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list -- wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikitech-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/"]https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/

Hi Thomas,

How? This extension is not deployed on Wikimedia sites. See
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version and
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Version.


Jay Prakash

On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM <tdvit@mail.com> wrote:

> Hello Alexandra,
> for the survey I would suggest you to take
> a look to the following extension
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CIForms
>
> in case you would like to avoid to rely on an external service
> and their terms.
> (Thomas)
>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:04 AM
> *From:* "Alexandra Shagzhina" <alexandra@empower-eag.com>
> *To:* wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> *Subject:* [Wikitech-l] Small Wiki Tools User Feedback Survey
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am an Outreachy participant in Round 23 [1],
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_23> working on a project
> to develop demo videos and toolkits to demonstrate the use of essential
> tools for smaller wiki communities: <
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135> [2].
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135>
>
>
> This Outreachy project is part of the larger Small wiki toolkits project
> to build technical capacity in smaller language wiki communities. More
> about the initiative: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits>
> [3]. <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits>
>
>
> As part of the project, we are running a survey to gather information
> about the tools that you find most helpful for your work on the wikis that
> might benefit for video documentation for others. It will not take longer
> than 5 minutes to fill out this survey; your feedback will be super
> valuable for us! <
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform>
> [4].
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform>
>
>
> This survey is conducted via a third-party service, which may subject it
> to additional terms. For more information on privacy and data handling, see
> the survey privacy statement: <
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement>
> [5].
>
>
> Best,
>
> Alexandra
>
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_23
>
>
> [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135
>
>
> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits
>
>
> [4]
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform>
>
>
> [5]
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement
>
>
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Thank you dear all,
This is the direction from my mentors, would it work to post on wiki tech? Thank you!
Alex

> 21 ???. 2021 ?., ? 10:46 AM, Jay prakash <0freerunning@gmail.com> ???????(?):
>
> ?
> Hi Thomas,
>
> How? This extension is not deployed on Wikimedia sites. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Version.
>
>
> Jay Prakash
>
>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM <tdvit@mail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Alexandra,
>> for the survey I would suggest you to take
>> a look to the following extension
>>
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CIForms
>>
>> in case you would like to avoid to rely on an external service
>> and their terms.
>> (Thomas)
>>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:04 AM
>> From: "Alexandra Shagzhina" <alexandra@empower-eag.com>
>> To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: [Wikitech-l] Small Wiki Tools User Feedback Survey
>> Hello everyone,
>> I am an Outreachy participant in Round 23 [1], working on a project to develop demo videos and toolkits to demonstrate the use of essential tools for smaller wiki communities: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135> [2].
>>
>> This Outreachy project is part of the larger Small wiki toolkits project to build technical capacity in smaller language wiki communities. More about the initiative: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits> [3].
>>
>> As part of the project, we are running a survey to gather information about the tools that you find most helpful for your work on the wikis that might benefit for video documentation for others. It will not take longer than 5 minutes to fill out this survey; your feedback will be super valuable for us! <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform> [4].
>>
>> This survey is conducted via a third-party service, which may subject it to additional terms. For more information on privacy and data handling, see the survey privacy statement: <https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement> [5].
>>
>> Best,
>> Alexandra
>>
>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_23
>>
>> [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135
>>
>> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits
>>
>> [4] https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform
>>
>> [5] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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Hi,

On Tue, 2021-12-21 at 08:28 +0100, tdvit@mail.com wrote:
>    for the survey I would suggest you to take
> a look to the following extension

As already pointed out, investigating a change of the workflow at this
stage of a survey is not feasible. (For more info, see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment for
steps that would be needed to get an extension deployed on servers).

This isn't the first time that the issue of relying on third-party
services for surveys has been brought up. I've boldly created
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T294343 for this broader topic.

Cheers,
andre
--
Andre Klapper (he/him) | Bugwrangler / Developer Advocate
https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
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@Andre, thanks for pointing out this, (T294343) I did not expect they were installed on the Wikimedia foundation sites, just that one could rely on their own wiki to perform surveys. As a contributor of the extension, I&#39;ve added recently a feature to get spreadsheet results (stored on the wiki) besides by email, so we will update the community as soon as it will be completed. (Thomas) Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:45 PM
From: "Andre Klapper" <aklapper@wikimedia.org>
To: "Wikitech-l" <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Re: Small Wiki Tools User Feedback Survey Hi,

On Tue, 2021-12-21 at 08:28 +0100, tdvit@mail.com wrote:
> for the survey I would suggest you to take
> a look to the following extension

As already pointed out, investigating a change of the workflow at this
stage of a survey is not feasible. (For more info, see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment"]https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment for
steps that would be needed to get an extension deployed on servers).

This isn&#39;t the first time that the issue of relying on third-party
services for surveys has been brought up. I&#39;ve boldly created
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T294343"]https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T294343 for this broader topic.

Cheers,
andre
--
Andre Klapper (he/him) &#124; Bugwrangler / Developer Advocate
https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/"]https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
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Hi everyone,
Happy new year! Thank you for the responses!
We are going to close the survey by Jan 9, and request to please give us
your feedback before the closing time, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much!
Alexandra

On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 10:04 AM Alexandra Shagzhina <
alexandra@empower-eag.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am an Outreachy participant in Round 23 [1],
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_23> working on a project
> to develop demo videos and toolkits to demonstrate the use of essential
> tools for smaller wiki communities: <
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135> [2].
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135>
>
> This Outreachy project is part of the larger Small wiki toolkits project
> to build technical capacity in smaller language wiki communities. More
> about the initiative: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits>
> [3]. <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits>
>
> As part of the project, we are running a survey to gather information
> about the tools that you find most helpful for your work on the wikis that
> might benefit for video documentation for others. It will not take longer
> than 5 minutes to fill out this survey; your feedback will be super
> valuable for us! <
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform>
> [4].
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform>
>
> This survey is conducted via a third-party service, which may subject it
> to additional terms. For more information on privacy and data handling, see
> the survey privacy statement: <
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement>
> [5].
>
> Best,
>
> Alexandra
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_23
>
> [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292135
>
> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits
>
> [4]
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScQHjansDXfLBGWPNhGBpqWTrhRdAWc5tA2yH-ESOPsMxeZuQ/viewform>
>
> [5]
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Popular_Tools_for_Wikipedia,_Wikidata_and_Commons_Survey_Privacy_Statement
>
>
>