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American plug do not have the round socket.

JP

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 08:18 Cornelius Kibelka, <
cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have to ask one of these naive (European) questions:
>
> My colleagues and me, we have mostly adapters for the "B" socket type
> (those with a round grounding). Can we use them in the Sheraton hotel – or
> do we need the "A" socket type adapters (those sockets without an entry for
> the round grounding)?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> cheers
>
> Cornelius
> --
> Cornelius Kibelka
> Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
> for the Wikimedia Conference
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
> http://wikimedia.de
>
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> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
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>
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I don't know the specifics of the Sheraton Hotel, but in all the places in
Montréal I visited they use the type B Socket.

On Jul 18, 2017 8:18 AM, "Cornelius Kibelka" <cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have to ask one of these naive (European) questions:
>
> My colleagues and me, we have mostly adapters for the "B" socket type
> (those with a round grounding). Can we use them in the Sheraton hotel – or
> do we need the "A" socket type adapters (those sockets without an entry for
> the round grounding)?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> cheers
>
> Cornelius
> --
> Cornelius Kibelka
> Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
> for the Wikimedia Conference
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
> http://wikimedia.de
>
> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
> http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207
>
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>
>

Oh sorry I misunderstood the question. Yes you can use plug with the third
pin for the ground in the Sheraton. Only exception could be some extension
cords plug that do not have the third pin but all wall plugs has the three.

JP

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 09:52 Béria Lima, <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know the specifics of the Sheraton Hotel, but in all the places in
> Montréal I visited they use the type B Socket.
>
> On Jul 18, 2017 8:18 AM, "Cornelius Kibelka" <
> cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have to ask one of these naive (European) questions:
>>
>> My colleagues and me, we have mostly adapters for the "B" socket type
>> (those with a round grounding). Can we use them in the Sheraton hotel – or
>> do we need the "A" socket type adapters (those sockets without an entry for
>> the round grounding)?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> cheers
>>
>> Cornelius
>> --
>> Cornelius Kibelka
>> Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
>> for the Wikimedia Conference
>>
>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
>> http://wikimedia.de
>>
>> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
>> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>> http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
>>
>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
>> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
>> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Actually, I can give you an exact snapshot of the plugs in the Sheraton
rooms.

They are standard grounded three prong US/Canada 110V plugs.

From our site visit earlier this year, this is what is in the room next to
the work desk:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania-2017-sheraton-plugs.jpg

The good news is they have four power plugs by default, a USB port, and if
you want to plug in your own video you can.

-Andrew


-Andrew Lih
Associate professor of journalism, American University
US National Archives Citizen Archivist of the Year (2016)
Knight Foundation grant recipient - Wikipedia Space (2015)
Wikimedia DC - Outreach and GLAM
---
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On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Béria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know the specifics of the Sheraton Hotel, but in all the places in
> Montréal I visited they use the type B Socket.
>
> On Jul 18, 2017 8:18 AM, "Cornelius Kibelka" <cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.
> de> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have to ask one of these naive (European) questions:
>>
>> My colleagues and me, we have mostly adapters for the "B" socket type
>> (those with a round grounding). Can we use them in the Sheraton hotel – or
>> do we need the "A" socket type adapters (those sockets without an entry for
>> the round grounding)?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> cheers
>>
>> Cornelius
>> --
>> Cornelius Kibelka
>> Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
>> for the Wikimedia Conference
>>
>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
>> http://wikimedia.de
>>
>> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
>> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>> http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
>>
>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
>> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
>> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207
>>
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I’ve started a section on the Travel_tips page on Wikimania wiki:

https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_tips#Electrical_systems

-Andrew


-Andrew Lih
Associate professor of journalism, American University
US National Archives Citizen Archivist of the Year (2016)
Knight Foundation grant recipient - Wikipedia Space (2015)
Wikimedia DC - Outreach and GLAM
---
Email: andrew@andrewlih.com
WEB: https://muckrack.com/fuzheado
PROJECT: Wikipedia Space: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE>
BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com


On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Andrew Lih <andrew@andrewlih.com> wrote:

> Actually, I can give you an exact snapshot of the plugs in the Sheraton
> rooms.
>
> They are standard grounded three prong US/Canada 110V plugs.
>
> From our site visit earlier this year, this is what is in the room next to
> the work desk:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania-2017-sheraton-plugs.jpg
>
> The good news is they have four power plugs by default, a USB port, and if
> you want to plug in your own video you can.
>
> -Andrew
>
>
> -Andrew Lih
> Associate professor of journalism, American University
> US National Archives Citizen Archivist of the Year (2016)
> Knight Foundation grant recipient - Wikipedia Space (2015)
> Wikimedia DC - Outreach and GLAM
> ---
> Email: andrew@andrewlih.com
> WEB: https://muckrack.com/fuzheado
> PROJECT: Wikipedia Space: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE
> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE>
> BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Béria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't know the specifics of the Sheraton Hotel, but in all the places
>> in Montréal I visited they use the type B Socket.
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2017 8:18 AM, "Cornelius Kibelka" <
>> cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have to ask one of these naive (European) questions:
>>>
>>> My colleagues and me, we have mostly adapters for the "B" socket type
>>> (those with a round grounding). Can we use them in the Sheraton hotel – or
>>> do we need the "A" socket type adapters (those sockets without an entry for
>>> the round grounding)?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Cornelius
>>> --
>>> Cornelius Kibelka
>>> Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
>>> for the Wikimedia Conference
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>>> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
>>> http://wikimedia.de
>>>
>>> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
>>> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>>> http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
>>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
>>> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
>>> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wikimania-l mailing list
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>>>
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>>
>

Thanks a lot for your answers, and especially Andrew for the photo!

See you soon,
Cornelius

--

Cornelius Kibelka

Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
for the Wikimedia Conference



Am 18.07.2017 16:21 schrieb "Andrew Lih" <andrew@andrewlih.com>:

> I’ve started a section on the Travel_tips page on Wikimania wiki:
>
> https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_tips#Electrical_systems
>
> -Andrew
>
>
> -Andrew Lih
> Associate professor of journalism, American University
> US National Archives Citizen Archivist of the Year (2016)
> Knight Foundation grant recipient - Wikipedia Space (2015)
> Wikimedia DC - Outreach and GLAM
> ---
> Email: andrew@andrewlih.com
> WEB: https://muckrack.com/fuzheado
> PROJECT: Wikipedia Space: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE
> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE>
> BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Andrew Lih <andrew@andrewlih.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually, I can give you an exact snapshot of the plugs in the Sheraton
>> rooms.
>>
>> They are standard grounded three prong US/Canada 110V plugs.
>>
>> From our site visit earlier this year, this is what is in the room next
>> to the work desk:
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania-2017-sheraton-plugs.jpg
>>
>> The good news is they have four power plugs by default, a USB port, and
>> if you want to plug in your own video you can.
>>
>> -Andrew
>>
>>
>> -Andrew Lih
>> Associate professor of journalism, American University
>> US National Archives Citizen Archivist of the Year (2016)
>> Knight Foundation grant recipient - Wikipedia Space (2015)
>> Wikimedia DC - Outreach and GLAM
>> ---
>> Email: andrew@andrewlih.com
>> WEB: https://muckrack.com/fuzheado
>> PROJECT: Wikipedia Space: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE
>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE>
>> BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Béria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know the specifics of the Sheraton Hotel, but in all the places
>>> in Montréal I visited they use the type B Socket.
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2017 8:18 AM, "Cornelius Kibelka" <
>>> cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I have to ask one of these naive (European) questions:
>>>>
>>>> My colleagues and me, we have mostly adapters for the "B" socket type
>>>> (those with a round grounding). Can we use them in the Sheraton hotel – or
>>>> do we need the "A" socket type adapters (those sockets without an entry for
>>>> the round grounding)?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> Cornelius
>>>> --
>>>> Cornelius Kibelka
>>>> Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
>>>> for the Wikimedia Conference
>>>>
>>>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>>>> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
>>>> http://wikimedia.de
>>>>
>>>> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
>>>> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>>>> http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
>>>>
>>>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
>>>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
>>>> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
>>>> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
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>>>
>>
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>

Hi,

I have a request for our American & Canadian friends:
Could you collect a lot of power cables with US sockets, so that all of us
foreigners can use them instead of complicated adapter plugs ?
I know that I have dozens of them hanging around my house, they come with
all the equipment but I do not discard them when I get rid of the old
stuff. I am sure that you guys over there can get boxes of these power
cords for free.

Hint:
Tell your local newspaper that you are looking for power cords for
different devices. They can then run a "human interest" story about how
dozens (or hundreds, whatever) of wikimedians from all over the world will
be coming to Montreal and they will all need to connect their computers and
other devices. Different countries use different plugs (as some American
wikimedians were very surprised to find out last summer in Esino Lario).

Best regards
Gabe

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Cornelius Kibelka <
cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Thanks a lot for your answers, and especially Andrew for the photo!
>
> See you soon,
> Cornelius
>
> --
>
> Cornelius Kibelka
>
> Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
> for the Wikimedia Conference
>
>
>
> Am 18.07.2017 16:21 schrieb "Andrew Lih" <andrew@andrewlih.com>:
>
>> I’ve started a section on the Travel_tips page on Wikimania wiki:
>>
>> https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_tips#Electrical_systems
>>
>> -Andrew
>>
>>
>> -Andrew Lih
>> Associate professor of journalism, American University
>> US National Archives Citizen Archivist of the Year (2016)
>> Knight Foundation grant recipient - Wikipedia Space (2015)
>> Wikimedia DC - Outreach and GLAM
>> ---
>> Email: andrew@andrewlih.com
>> WEB: https://muckrack.com/fuzheado
>> PROJECT: Wikipedia Space: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE
>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE>
>> BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Andrew Lih <andrew@andrewlih.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, I can give you an exact snapshot of the plugs in the Sheraton
>>> rooms.
>>>
>>> They are standard grounded three prong US/Canada 110V plugs.
>>>
>>> From our site visit earlier this year, this is what is in the room next
>>> to the work desk:
>>>
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania-2017-shera
>>> ton-plugs.jpg
>>>
>>> The good news is they have four power plugs by default, a USB port, and
>>> if you want to plug in your own video you can.
>>>
>>> -Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> -Andrew Lih
>>> Associate professor of journalism, American University
>>> US National Archives Citizen Archivist of the Year (2016)
>>> Knight Foundation grant recipient - Wikipedia Space (2015)
>>> Wikimedia DC - Outreach and GLAM
>>> ---
>>> Email: andrew@andrewlih.com
>>> WEB: https://muckrack.com/fuzheado
>>> PROJECT: Wikipedia Space: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE
>>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WPSPACE>
>>> BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Béria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know the specifics of the Sheraton Hotel, but in all the places
>>>> in Montréal I visited they use the type B Socket.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 18, 2017 8:18 AM, "Cornelius Kibelka" <
>>>> cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to ask one of these naive (European) questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> My colleagues and me, we have mostly adapters for the "B" socket type
>>>>> (those with a round grounding). Can we use them in the Sheraton hotel – or
>>>>> do we need the "A" socket type adapters (those sockets without an entry for
>>>>> the round grounding)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Cornelius
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cornelius Kibelka
>>>>> Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC)
>>>>> for the Wikimedia Conference
>>>>>
>>>>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>>>>> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
>>>>> http://wikimedia.de
>>>>>
>>>>> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
>>>>> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>>>>> http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
>>>>>
>>>>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.
>>>>> V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
>>>>> unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt
>>>>> für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Hello.
Am 18.07.2017 um 19:06 schrieb Gabriel Thullen:
> Could you collect a lot of power cables with US sockets, so that all of
> us foreigners can use them instead of complicated adapter plugs ?

I’m not sure if this would be a good idea, because the US/Canada use a
110V-system while Europe uses 230V.
While many notebooks can stomach both, lots of other devices can not. So
it could be fatal to just switch the powercord of a device.

Sincerely,
DaB.


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Many power cords consist of 2 parts, so for example if you have a Thinkpad
and it looks like this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2500x2500/lenovo_0b46994_tp_90w_ac_adapter_1011953.jpg

Then you use the part with the little box as you always would and just need
that other part from there to the wall socket,
and no additional adapter.


Daniel Zahn <dzahn@wikimedia.org>
Operations Engineer

Which 220V devices do you know that will be damaged by connecting via a laptop power cable to 110V?
I don't know of any.
Cheers,
P

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Hello.
Am 18.07.2017 um 19:06 schrieb Gabriel Thullen:
> Could you collect a lot of power cables with US sockets, so that all
> of us foreigners can use them instead of complicated adapter plugs ?

I’m not sure if this would be a good idea, because the US/Canada use a 110V-system while Europe uses 230V.
While many notebooks can stomach both, lots of other devices can not. So it could be fatal to just switch the powercord of a device.

Sincerely,
DaB.


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I tried my hair dryer I bought in the U.S. in Europe, but it wasn't a good
idea ;)
The other way it will be only slow, and dries the hair after ages...

I think, power adapters work with both voltage, and mobile devices will be
charged only slower with 110V.

Best,
Samat


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> Which 220V devices do you know that will be damaged by connecting via a
> laptop power cable to 110V?
> I don't know of any.
> Cheers,
> P
>
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> Behalf Of DaB.
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Socket type in the Sheraton Hotel
>
> Hello.
> Am 18.07.2017 um 19:06 schrieb Gabriel Thullen:
> > Could you collect a lot of power cables with US sockets, so that all
> > of us foreigners can use them instead of complicated adapter plugs ?
>
> I’m not sure if this would be a good idea, because the US/Canada use a
> 110V-system while Europe uses 230V.
> While many notebooks can stomach both, lots of other devices can not. So
> it could be fatal to just switch the powercord of a device.
>
> Sincerely,
> DaB.
>
>
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> On 19. Jul 2017, at 10:25, Samat <samat78@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I tried my hair dryer I bought in the U.S. in Europe, but it wasn't a good idea ;)
> The other way it will be only slow, and dries the hair after ages...
>
> I think, power adapters work with both voltage, and mobile devices will be charged only slower with 110V.

Not all power adaptors, but nearly all power adaptors for mobile devices for the
last 20 years or so have beed designed for 100-240V, 50-60Hz AC, and except for
the mechanical connectors work in nearly all mains systems on the planet. If in
doubt, check the thing.

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This was true for South Korean hair dryer (220V) used in Japan (110V). While it doesn't explode or some kind of smoke (see also [1]), dryer was almost unusable as the power was too weak.

So a small question: does the hotel provides hair dryer? I guess so, but want to reconfirm.

[1]: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Electrical_systems

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2017. 7. 19. 17:25 Samat <samat78@gmail.com> ???:

> The other way it will be only slow, and dries the hair after ages...

According to
http://m.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/property/rooms/amenities.html?propertyID=463,
there should be a hair dryer.

Best,
Martin


2017-07-19 10:57 GMT+02:00 Yongmin H. <lists@revi.pe.kr>:

> This was true for South Korean hair dryer (220V) used in Japan (110V).
> While it doesn't explode or some kind of smoke (see also [1]), dryer was
> almost unusable as the power was too weak.
>
> So a small question: does the hotel provides hair dryer? I guess so, but
> want to reconfirm.
>
> [1]: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Electrical_systems
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Martin Rulsch <martin.rulsch@wikimedia.de>
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> According to http://m.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/property/rooms/
> amenities.html?propertyID=463, there should be a hair dryer.
>
> Best,
> Martin
>
>
> 2017-07-19 10:57 GMT+02:00 Yongmin H. <lists@revi.pe.kr>:
>
>> This was true for South Korean hair dryer (220V) used in Japan (110V).
>> While it doesn't explode or some kind of smoke (see also [1]), dryer was
>> almost unusable as the power was too weak.
>>
>> So a small question: does the hotel provides hair dryer? I guess so, but
>> want to reconfirm.
>>
>> [1]: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Electrical_systems
>>
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>> The other way it will be only slow, and dries the hair after ages...
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:39 AM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> Which 220V devices do you know that will be damaged by connecting via a
> laptop power cable to 110V?
> I don't know of any.
> Cheers,
>

Right - in general if your cord is rugged enough to handle 220V then 110V
will not be a problem.

Nearly every modern laptop power brick is going to handle 100-240V, 50-60Hz
AC just fine.

You may have some third party USB, mobile phone chargers or smaller power
adapters (shavers, baby electronics, et al.) that might be specific to the
voltage, so the safest thing is to check. The writing is so small on
these that I usually take a photo with the mobile phone and zoom in to read
the specs.

-Andrew

Hello.
Am 19.07.2017 um 09:39 schrieb Peter Southwood:
> Which 220V devices do you know that will be damaged by connecting via
> a laptop power cable to 110V?

everyone that has an induction motor in it for example. And it’s 230V
since 30 years BTW.

But it’s not my devices that will go broke – but do not say I didn’t
warn you :-).

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Which devices with an induction motor will run off a laptop power cable?
Cheers,
Peter

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Hello.
Am 19.07.2017 um 09:39 schrieb Peter Southwood:
> Which 220V devices do you know that will be damaged by connecting via
> a laptop power cable to 110V?

everyone that has an induction motor in it for example. And it’s 230V since 30 years BTW.

But it’s not my devices that will go broke – but do not say I didn’t warn you :-).

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I think that this conversation is getting way off track.

The original question was about what type of adapter on needs to be able to
plug into a power mains in Canada.

One smart answer was the picture of the sockets available.
I suggested that someone in Montréal see if he collect a bunch of power
cords that I felt that people might want to donate.
That is all. I assume that the wikimedians travelling to Canada know about
the voltage issues, they just want to be able to plug their modern computer
into the room socket.

Best regards
Gabe

PS
I am not sure that the vacuum tubes in my computer will like the 110V, but
I will give it a try...

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Peter Southwood <
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> Which devices with an induction motor will run off a laptop power cable?
> Cheers,
> Peter
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> Am 19.07.2017 um 09:39 schrieb Peter Southwood:
> > Which 220V devices do you know that will be damaged by connecting via
> > a laptop power cable to 110V?
>
> everyone that has an induction motor in it for example. And it’s 230V
> since 30 years BTW.
>
> But it’s not my devices that will go broke – but do not say I didn’t warn
> you :-).
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Hello,
Am 20.07.2017 um 21:54 schrieb Peter Southwood:
> Which devices with an induction motor will run off a laptop power cable?

while there is no such a thing as a “laptop cable”, the original
question was about general “power cables”.

The cable between the wall-socket and you laptop-transformer is usually
one of these 3:
* A rubber connector (C14)
* Clover-leaf or Mickey Mouse (C5)
* Not polarized (C7)

C14 and C7 are also used in many other devices beside IT: C7 for example
with radios. And here lies the danger: That somebody would use the
cables you provided for laptops (where they are mostly fine) to connect
devices that are not ready for under-voltage.
If you use a C14 to power a fan-cooled heater, the possibility that it
will catch fire (because the dumb heating works fine, but the more
complex fan is not) is quite high.


I do not say that something bad will happen (because modern devices
often use far range transformers), but there is the possibility; as you
could read in this thread some people were …naive… enough to plug-in
American devices into European socket-outlets.


Sincerely,
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I agree with this as a useful proposal. There were objections, and I was trying to find out if they were actually relevant to your specific proposal, So fat I am not convinced that there is a risk, and support the proposal as useful. Whether it can be done on a useful scale is yet to be determined.

My interest is that I am on the committee for Wikimania 2018, and we will have a similar problem. Particularly with adaptors from Australian to South African. Euro and American are off the shelf. Australian are apparently not.

Cheers,

Peter

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I think that this conversation is getting way off track.

The original question was about what type of adapter on needs to be able to plug into a power mains in Canada.

One smart answer was the picture of the sockets available.

I suggested that someone in Montréal see if he collect a bunch of power cords that I felt that people might want to donate.

That is all. I assume that the wikimedians travelling to Canada know about the voltage issues, they just want to be able to plug their modern computer into the room socket.

Best regards

Gabe

PS

I am not sure that the vacuum tubes in my computer will like the 110V, but I will give it a try...



On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Peter Southwood <peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Which devices with an induction motor will run off a laptop power cable?
Cheers,
Peter

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Hello.
Am 19.07.2017 um 09:39 schrieb Peter Southwood:
> Which 220V devices do you know that will be damaged by connecting via
> a laptop power cable to 110V?

everyone that has an induction motor in it for example. And it’s 230V since 30 years BTW.

But it’s not my devices that will go broke – but do not say I didn’t warn you :-).

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Thanks, That is useful information. I have only seen one type here , which may be the clover-leaf (it has three holes, two slightly smaller than the third, which is offset, and the surrounding insulator does look like a Mickey Mouse front view head outline).
Cheers,
Peter

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Hello,
Am 20.07.2017 um 21:54 schrieb Peter Southwood:
> Which devices with an induction motor will run off a laptop power cable?

while there is no such a thing as a “laptop cable”, the original question was about general “power cables”.

The cable between the wall-socket and you laptop-transformer is usually one of these 3:
* A rubber connector (C14)
* Clover-leaf or Mickey Mouse (C5)
* Not polarized (C7)

C14 and C7 are also used in many other devices beside IT: C7 for example with radios. And here lies the danger: That somebody would use the cables you provided for laptops (where they are mostly fine) to connect devices that are not ready for under-voltage.
If you use a C14 to power a fan-cooled heater, the possibility that it will catch fire (because the dumb heating works fine, but the more complex fan is not) is quite high.


I do not say that something bad will happen (because modern devices often use far range transformers), but there is the possibility; as you could read in this thread some people were …naive… enough to plug-in American devices into European socket-outlets.


Sincerely,
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