Hey Aishik,
The first action you need to make is to move the meta wiki page to Draft
page and find a working name. Maybe *Wikipedia Project West and Central
Asia.*
ESEAP started as ESEA in 2014 during Wikimania London 2014 (Source:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ESEA_Meetup/MeetingMinutes) . I am not
there as I was just starting my work in Singapore. The concept of a
regional collaboration started 9 years ago when multiple countries agree to
work on something, not one part of a country, not two countries, but four
countries. Then on, all blood, sweat and tears to reach a consensus of 18
Wikimedia communities (plus 15 more we have to explore in the Pacific
islands) to come together and reach an agreement to formally build an ESEAP
regional hub.
We are open to collaboration but please start a bold confidence building
measure to earn our trust.
To Movement Charter Drafting Committee,
Despite absence of an ESEAP person to the large committee, we humbly
suggest that you finally settle the definition of user groups, advocacy
groups, alliance groups, online project groups and all others to avoid any
ambiguity as it creates confusion to partners and general public; unfair
competition and tension amongst Wikimedians. We originally have charters
before but now the terminology of a user group became insanely
disorganized. Once it is drafted, it will be voted upon the general
community anyways.
To Everyone,
The theme of Wikimania 2023 is Diversity, Collaboration, Future. We aim
this year's event be another milestone for people to meet and do a similar
experience Wikimedians in 2014 to form regional and thematic
collaborations. We respect diversity but we discourage highly divisive
discussions.
Kind regards,
*Butch Bustria*
Wikimedia East, South East Asia and the Pacific
On Sat, May 27, 2023, 7:26 AM Aishik Rehman <aishikrehman@gmail.com> wrote:
> To everyone,
>
> Thank you for your continued engagement and valuable feedback regarding
> the establishment of the UG. We have carefully considered the concerns
> raised regarding the name and the inclusion of the ESEAP region. We are
> committed to addressing these issues and ensuring a conflict-free and
> effective user group.
>
> Regarding the name, we understand the importance of avoiding possible
> conflicts and overlaps. We are open to considering a non-geographical name
> that better represents the collaborative nature of our user group. We
> welcome suggestions and input from the community in this regard.
>
> In terms of the ESEAP region, we recognize the need for a balanced
> approach. We are also open to excluding the region if it helps mitigate
> conflicts and ensures effective collaboration. We seek serious advice and
> assistance from those with experience and expertise to help us navigate
> these considerations.
>
> To Rafi, we appreciate your input, but we want to clarify that we have no
> links or conflicts with Wikimedia Bangladesh. Our focus is on building a
> user group that complements and collaborates with existing affiliates. Your
> concerns regarding Wikimedia Bangladesh are not relevant to the
> establishment and functioning of the WAP UG.
>
> We invite all interested individuals to join us in finding solutions and
> shaping the future direction of the user group. Your insights, expertise,
> and assistance in making the UG conflict-free and effective are highly
> valued.
>
> Thank you for your continued support and engagement.
>
> Best regards,
> Aishik Rehman
> Volunteer, Wikimedians of the [?] User Group
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The first action you need to make is to move the meta wiki page to Draft
page and find a working name. Maybe *Wikipedia Project West and Central
Asia.*
ESEAP started as ESEA in 2014 during Wikimania London 2014 (Source:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ESEA_Meetup/MeetingMinutes) . I am not
there as I was just starting my work in Singapore. The concept of a
regional collaboration started 9 years ago when multiple countries agree to
work on something, not one part of a country, not two countries, but four
countries. Then on, all blood, sweat and tears to reach a consensus of 18
Wikimedia communities (plus 15 more we have to explore in the Pacific
islands) to come together and reach an agreement to formally build an ESEAP
regional hub.
We are open to collaboration but please start a bold confidence building
measure to earn our trust.
To Movement Charter Drafting Committee,
Despite absence of an ESEAP person to the large committee, we humbly
suggest that you finally settle the definition of user groups, advocacy
groups, alliance groups, online project groups and all others to avoid any
ambiguity as it creates confusion to partners and general public; unfair
competition and tension amongst Wikimedians. We originally have charters
before but now the terminology of a user group became insanely
disorganized. Once it is drafted, it will be voted upon the general
community anyways.
To Everyone,
The theme of Wikimania 2023 is Diversity, Collaboration, Future. We aim
this year's event be another milestone for people to meet and do a similar
experience Wikimedians in 2014 to form regional and thematic
collaborations. We respect diversity but we discourage highly divisive
discussions.
Kind regards,
*Butch Bustria*
Wikimedia East, South East Asia and the Pacific
On Sat, May 27, 2023, 7:26 AM Aishik Rehman <aishikrehman@gmail.com> wrote:
> To everyone,
>
> Thank you for your continued engagement and valuable feedback regarding
> the establishment of the UG. We have carefully considered the concerns
> raised regarding the name and the inclusion of the ESEAP region. We are
> committed to addressing these issues and ensuring a conflict-free and
> effective user group.
>
> Regarding the name, we understand the importance of avoiding possible
> conflicts and overlaps. We are open to considering a non-geographical name
> that better represents the collaborative nature of our user group. We
> welcome suggestions and input from the community in this regard.
>
> In terms of the ESEAP region, we recognize the need for a balanced
> approach. We are also open to excluding the region if it helps mitigate
> conflicts and ensures effective collaboration. We seek serious advice and
> assistance from those with experience and expertise to help us navigate
> these considerations.
>
> To Rafi, we appreciate your input, but we want to clarify that we have no
> links or conflicts with Wikimedia Bangladesh. Our focus is on building a
> user group that complements and collaborates with existing affiliates. Your
> concerns regarding Wikimedia Bangladesh are not relevant to the
> establishment and functioning of the WAP UG.
>
> We invite all interested individuals to join us in finding solutions and
> shaping the future direction of the user group. Your insights, expertise,
> and assistance in making the UG conflict-free and effective are highly
> valued.
>
> Thank you for your continued support and engagement.
>
> Best regards,
> Aishik Rehman
> Volunteer, Wikimedians of the [?] User Group
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