Hi.
Thanks a lot.
?? ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?:?? Eduardo Testart <etestart@gmail.com>
????:
> Hi again,
>
> Another potentially interesting podcast for some touching this matter
> (more or less):
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/17/podcasts/hard-fork-bing-ai-elon.html
>
> Linked to the ones I sent before on the other thread.
>
> If this is the new Napster revolution equivalent, yeah I know... back in
> the day, buckle up!
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 17:33 Jimmy Wales <jimmywales@wikitribune.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Speaking only for myself, out of curiosity, some real world examples
>> might be helpful here. I don't have access to Bing's
>> version yet, but I do have access to chat.openai.com which is very
>> impressive but deeply flawed.
>>
>> I asked "Who is Kate Garvey?" (my wife, known a bit to the media, but not
>> famous) and the answer is weird and laughably bad with
>> more sentences false than true. Among other silly things, it says that
>> she worked for Theresa May and was involved
>> with Brexit negotiations, which if you knew my wife's politics borders on
>> libel. It also says she co-founded an organization
>> (which as far as I can tell, it just made up out of thin air) with Nick
>> Clegg's wife. It's completely mad.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2023-02-20 09:34, Anders Wennersten wrote:
>>
>> > BIng with ChatGPT is now released by Micrsoft. > > And from what I
>> understand they use Wikipedia content considerably. > If you ask Who is A B
>> and A B is not widely known, the result is more > or less identical to the
>> content from the Wikipedia article (but > worse, as it "makes up" facts
>> that is incorrect). > > In a way I am glad to see Wikipedia is fully
>> relevant even in this > emerging AI-driven search world. But Google search
>> has ben careful to > always have a link to Wikipedia besides their made up
>> summary of > facts, which here it is missing (yet?). And for licences, they
>> are > all ignored. > > So if this is the future the number of accesses from
>> users to > Wikipedia will collapse, and also their willingness to donate...
>> (but > our content still a cornerstone for knowledge) > > Anders > > (I got
>> a lot of fact from an article in Swedish main newspaper by > their tech
>> editor. He started asking fact of himself, and when he > received facts
>> from his Wp article plus being credited to a book he > had noting to do
>> with, he started to try to tell/learn ChatGPT of > this error. The chatPGT
>> only got angry accusing the techeditor for > lying and in the end cut off
>> the conversation, as ChatGPT continued > to teat the techeditor as lyer and
>> vandal..). > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l
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Thanks a lot.
?? ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?:?? Eduardo Testart <etestart@gmail.com>
????:
> Hi again,
>
> Another potentially interesting podcast for some touching this matter
> (more or less):
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/17/podcasts/hard-fork-bing-ai-elon.html
>
> Linked to the ones I sent before on the other thread.
>
> If this is the new Napster revolution equivalent, yeah I know... back in
> the day, buckle up!
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 17:33 Jimmy Wales <jimmywales@wikitribune.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Speaking only for myself, out of curiosity, some real world examples
>> might be helpful here. I don't have access to Bing's
>> version yet, but I do have access to chat.openai.com which is very
>> impressive but deeply flawed.
>>
>> I asked "Who is Kate Garvey?" (my wife, known a bit to the media, but not
>> famous) and the answer is weird and laughably bad with
>> more sentences false than true. Among other silly things, it says that
>> she worked for Theresa May and was involved
>> with Brexit negotiations, which if you knew my wife's politics borders on
>> libel. It also says she co-founded an organization
>> (which as far as I can tell, it just made up out of thin air) with Nick
>> Clegg's wife. It's completely mad.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2023-02-20 09:34, Anders Wennersten wrote:
>>
>> > BIng with ChatGPT is now released by Micrsoft. > > And from what I
>> understand they use Wikipedia content considerably. > If you ask Who is A B
>> and A B is not widely known, the result is more > or less identical to the
>> content from the Wikipedia article (but > worse, as it "makes up" facts
>> that is incorrect). > > In a way I am glad to see Wikipedia is fully
>> relevant even in this > emerging AI-driven search world. But Google search
>> has ben careful to > always have a link to Wikipedia besides their made up
>> summary of > facts, which here it is missing (yet?). And for licences, they
>> are > all ignored. > > So if this is the future the number of accesses from
>> users to > Wikipedia will collapse, and also their willingness to donate...
>> (but > our content still a cornerstone for knowledge) > > Anders > > (I got
>> a lot of fact from an article in Swedish main newspaper by > their tech
>> editor. He started asking fact of himself, and when he > received facts
>> from his Wp article plus being credited to a book he > had noting to do
>> with, he started to try to tell/learn ChatGPT of > this error. The chatPGT
>> only got angry accusing the techeditor for > lying and in the end cut off
>> the conversation, as ChatGPT continued > to teat the techeditor as lyer and
>> vandal..). > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l
>> mailing > list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: >
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