Hello Rafi , thanks for clarifying more about cases like this but as I have
put it , it was by a mistake done by newbie who didn’t has no metapage
editing links at all .
to the office
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 at 16:18 Mrb Rafi <mrbrafi1971@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Derrick,
>
> Thanks for forwarding it to the mailing list. In this particular case, the
> credit-snatching instance has been committed by a newcomer, as you
> mentioned. There can be a lot of arguments on whether the person did it
> intentionally or it was just a newbie mistake, but I'm not going towards
> that.
>
> There are legal frameworks for determining the ownership of intellectual
> property. But how do you give proper credit to an organizer who led, for
> example, an image donation program? They must be credited for their hard
> work as Wikimedia organizers. Unfortunately, similar and even more obvious
> instances of credit snatching are taking place in the movement, sometimes
> by some of the most experienced wikimedians with a clear understanding of
> what they are doing. This is more evident in underrepresented communities,
> and there is no preventive method against it.
>
> Best,
> Rafi
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 8:11 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter <
> ndahiroderric@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though
>> ( I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did
>> that was really necessary but I understand the context )
>>
>> I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills
>> of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal
>> apology to the original author and the team receiving grants .
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA <bam6192@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Forward as received
>>>
>>> FYI dear community member
>>>
>>> Abel Lifaefi Mbula
>>> Free Software Dev
>>> Free Culture Enthousiast
>>>
>>> Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
>>> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: patience kavira <patiencekavira@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07
>>> Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda -
>>> User:Nkunda102
>>> To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) <bam6192@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> De : patience kavira <patiencekavira@gmail.com>
>>> Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55
>>> Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102
>>> To: fdevouard@anthere.org <fdevouard@anthere.org>,
>>> donatien.kanga@gmail.com <donatien.kanga@gmail.com>,
>>> emmanuelleg22@gmail.com <emmanuelleg22@gmail.com>, isla@wikiinafrica.org
>>> <isla@wikiinafrica.org>
>>> Cc: <wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr>, <
>>> african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, <
>>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Florence,
>>>
>>> It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior
>>> by a user from Rwanda.
>>>
>>> As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in
>>> partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since
>>> February 14th [1].
>>>
>>> However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already
>>> decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been
>>> slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user
>>> Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his
>>> modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring
>>> the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same
>>> time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior
>>> cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as
>>> of Wikipedia.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99s_fight_climate_change_and_the_gender_gap_on_Wikipedia
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Patience Kavira
>>> Environmental specialist
>>> University of Kisangani
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>> derrick
>>
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put it , it was by a mistake done by newbie who didn’t has no metapage
editing links at all .
to the office
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 at 16:18 Mrb Rafi <mrbrafi1971@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Derrick,
>
> Thanks for forwarding it to the mailing list. In this particular case, the
> credit-snatching instance has been committed by a newcomer, as you
> mentioned. There can be a lot of arguments on whether the person did it
> intentionally or it was just a newbie mistake, but I'm not going towards
> that.
>
> There are legal frameworks for determining the ownership of intellectual
> property. But how do you give proper credit to an organizer who led, for
> example, an image donation program? They must be credited for their hard
> work as Wikimedia organizers. Unfortunately, similar and even more obvious
> instances of credit snatching are taking place in the movement, sometimes
> by some of the most experienced wikimedians with a clear understanding of
> what they are doing. This is more evident in underrepresented communities,
> and there is no preventive method against it.
>
> Best,
> Rafi
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 8:11 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter <
> ndahiroderric@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though
>> ( I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did
>> that was really necessary but I understand the context )
>>
>> I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills
>> of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal
>> apology to the original author and the team receiving grants .
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA <bam6192@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Forward as received
>>>
>>> FYI dear community member
>>>
>>> Abel Lifaefi Mbula
>>> Free Software Dev
>>> Free Culture Enthousiast
>>>
>>> Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
>>> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: patience kavira <patiencekavira@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07
>>> Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda -
>>> User:Nkunda102
>>> To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) <bam6192@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> De : patience kavira <patiencekavira@gmail.com>
>>> Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55
>>> Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102
>>> To: fdevouard@anthere.org <fdevouard@anthere.org>,
>>> donatien.kanga@gmail.com <donatien.kanga@gmail.com>,
>>> emmanuelleg22@gmail.com <emmanuelleg22@gmail.com>, isla@wikiinafrica.org
>>> <isla@wikiinafrica.org>
>>> Cc: <wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr>, <
>>> african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, <
>>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Florence,
>>>
>>> It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior
>>> by a user from Rwanda.
>>>
>>> As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in
>>> partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since
>>> February 14th [1].
>>>
>>> However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already
>>> decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been
>>> slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user
>>> Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his
>>> modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring
>>> the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same
>>> time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior
>>> cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as
>>> of Wikipedia.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99s_fight_climate_change_and_the_gender_gap_on_Wikipedia
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Patience Kavira
>>> Environmental specialist
>>> University of Kisangani
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>> derrick
>>
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