Just to follow up on this from Risker, I filed a task on the home wiki
issue: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T329922
best,
Joe
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*Joe Sutherland* (he/him)
Lead Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 13:27, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just noting in passing that the SecurePoll default for "home wiki" is the
> project on which an account made its first edit. A large number of editors
> who would consider their "home wiki" a different project (or even a
> different language entirely) made their first edit on English Wikipedia;
> the same is true of several of the other "large" Wikipedias. The extended
> statistical information tells us that more than half of all voters met
> voting requirements on two or more projects.
>
> It's also noteworthy that the majority of Wikimedia projects have a very
> small group of contributors who would meet the voting requirements.Most
> editors who work on our smaller projects made their earliest contributions
> on a larger project, and that larger project is going to be considered
> their "home" wiki. SecurePoll treats an account's edits wholistically,
> rather than project-by-project, and it does not record the location
> (wiki/project) from which an account has voted. It should be noted that
> there isn't a lot of data provided with relation to our smaller projects in
> the statistical analysis. This is appropriate as it could impact user
> privacy.
>
> As an aside, I am part of the Movement Charter Drafting Committee team
> looking at using SecurePoll for some aspects of ratification of the
> Charter. We are already discussing with the team that is responsible for
> SecurePoll about some of these issues, such as users being able to select
> their "home wiki", results per project, expanding the available
> translations, and ways to maintain privacy for contributors to smaller
> projects. We're also watching closely for relevant comments specific to
> the use of SecurePoll in this and other elections, and what improvements
> Wikimedians (especially those from smaller projects) suggest for
> SecurePoll. Thanks, Xavier, for raising the issue.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 15:49, Stella Ng <sng@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello Xavier,
>>
>> Thank you for your email, and sharing your observations and concerns.
>> Many other movement initiatives face similar challenges. Equitable
>> participation and engagement are something we are working to improve with
>> each and every interaction. The UCoC project team has poured a sizable
>> amount of discussion, planning and energy into outreach to the movement
>> throughout the process. The goal was to encourage participation from as
>> many communities as possible.
>>
>>
>> The ways the UCoC team encouraged participation can be seen through the
>> results of this work. The Revised Enforcement Guidelines are currently
>> translated into over 40 languages; voter information, banners, and emails
>> were also heavily translated. The project team hosted outreach and
>> conversation hours throughout the drafting process. We have made it a point
>> to invite and engage with many communities, particularly small and
>> medium-sized, and it is our goal to continue to ensure that the growing
>> communities and small language wikis are invited to engage with us. It is
>> our hope that as we progress, the UCoC and the Enforcement Guidelines will
>> create a better environment that will see more interaction from all
>> communities.
>>
>> As we embark on the next steps and stages of this ongoing project, we
>> will increase engagement, conversations, and interaction with the growing
>> communities and small language wikis in as many languages, places, and
>> contexts as possible. The UCoC is an iterative process, and we will be
>> inviting opinions of how to make it more inclusive as we continue onwards.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Stella Ng
>>
>> On Behalf of the UCoC Project Team
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 11:39 AM F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l <
>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi/Bona vesprada,
>>>
>>> Without meaning at all that I do not respect the results of this voting,
>>> I would like to call the attention to the fact that out of 3097 votes,
>>> practically 2000 are circumscribed to only 4 big home wikis: en.wiki
>>> (1000), de.wiki (500), fr.wiki (200) and es.wiki (150).
>>>
>>> Imho it is somehow concerning that 2/3 of the votes of such a key policy
>>> are heavily relying on the weight of those major projects. I understand the
>>> constraints in participation, but it isn't either a trivial value
>>> -considering how much do we read about the WMF efforts to promote the
>>> so-called “Global South” communities and the minority language wikis.
>>>
>>> There is a great essay on English Wikipedia, "Wikipedia:Silence does
>>> not imply consent when drafting new policies
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Silence_does_not_imply_consent_when_drafting_new_policies>",
>>> that has a very thoughtful background and that I like very much to remind: *"Silence
>>> implies consensus" is an old standby on Wikipedia. However, with regard to
>>> new policies and guidelines, this cannot apply, and silence should instead
>>> imply either indifference or a lack of proper exposure. If a proposal
>>> produces indifference in the community, it is not necessary. If a proposal
>>> has not been adequately exposed to the community, there is no just cause
>>> for implementing it as policy.*
>>>
>>> Kind regards/Salutacions,
>>>
>>> Xavier Dengra
>>> ------- Original Message -------
>>> El dilluns, 13 de febrer 2023 a les 20:00, Shani Evenstein <
>>> shani@wikimedia.org> va escriure:
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> *Today the results of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement
>>> Guidelines vote were tallied*. We are pleased to report the results
>>> show that the Enforcement Guidelines are strongly supported by the
>>> community, with *76% of participants voting in support *of the
>>> Enforcement Guidelines.
>>>
>>>
>>> A report with a summary and analysis of comments submitted in the voting
>>> process is being prepared by the staff members supporting the Universal
>>> Code of Conduct work and will be available soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> Below is a message created by the staff members supporting the Universal
>>> Code of Conduct work, which has translations available on Meta-wiki
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines/Vote_results_announcement>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> The recent community-wide vote on the Universal Code of Conduct revised
>>> Enforcement Guidelines
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines>
>>> has been tallied and scrutinized. Thank you to everyone who participated.
>>>
>>> After 3097 voters from 146 Wikimedia communities voted, the results are
>>> 76% in support of the Enforcement Guidelines, and 24% in opposition.
>>> Statistics
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines/Voting_statistics>
>>> for the vote are available. A more detailed summary of comments submitted
>>> during the vote will be published soon.
>>>
>>> From here, the results and comments collected during this vote will be
>>> submitted to the Board of Trustees for their review. The current
>>> expectation is that the Board of Trustees review process will complete in
>>> March 2023. We will update you when their review process is completed.
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone who participated in
>>> this process.
>>>
>>> This list includes the people who voted in 2022 and those voters who
>>> provided comments so we could strengthen and clarify the Enforcement
>>> Guidelines into the version the community supports.
>>>
>>>
>>> I especially want to thank the Drafting Committee, who took the time to
>>> reconvene and review community feedback from the 2022 Enforcement Guideline
>>> vote and continue to engage with the community and feedback throughout
>>> 2022.
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally, thank you to the people who voted and shared feedback during
>>> this voting period. We look forward to reviewing the report of the feedback
>>> and discussing next steps with the rest of the Board.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shani, on behalf of the CAC.
>>>
>>> Shani Evenstein Sigalov
>>> <https://wikimediafoundation.org/profile/shani-evenstein-sigalov/>
>>>
>>> Vice Chair, Board of Trustees
>>>
>>> Chair, Community Affairs Committee
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
>>> Public archives at
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/SCELV7FWZZQRGNV6KUQ7FXIVJVJSZ26R/
>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>>
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issue: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T329922
best,
Joe
--
*Joe Sutherland* (he/him)
Lead Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 13:27, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just noting in passing that the SecurePoll default for "home wiki" is the
> project on which an account made its first edit. A large number of editors
> who would consider their "home wiki" a different project (or even a
> different language entirely) made their first edit on English Wikipedia;
> the same is true of several of the other "large" Wikipedias. The extended
> statistical information tells us that more than half of all voters met
> voting requirements on two or more projects.
>
> It's also noteworthy that the majority of Wikimedia projects have a very
> small group of contributors who would meet the voting requirements.Most
> editors who work on our smaller projects made their earliest contributions
> on a larger project, and that larger project is going to be considered
> their "home" wiki. SecurePoll treats an account's edits wholistically,
> rather than project-by-project, and it does not record the location
> (wiki/project) from which an account has voted. It should be noted that
> there isn't a lot of data provided with relation to our smaller projects in
> the statistical analysis. This is appropriate as it could impact user
> privacy.
>
> As an aside, I am part of the Movement Charter Drafting Committee team
> looking at using SecurePoll for some aspects of ratification of the
> Charter. We are already discussing with the team that is responsible for
> SecurePoll about some of these issues, such as users being able to select
> their "home wiki", results per project, expanding the available
> translations, and ways to maintain privacy for contributors to smaller
> projects. We're also watching closely for relevant comments specific to
> the use of SecurePoll in this and other elections, and what improvements
> Wikimedians (especially those from smaller projects) suggest for
> SecurePoll. Thanks, Xavier, for raising the issue.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 15:49, Stella Ng <sng@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello Xavier,
>>
>> Thank you for your email, and sharing your observations and concerns.
>> Many other movement initiatives face similar challenges. Equitable
>> participation and engagement are something we are working to improve with
>> each and every interaction. The UCoC project team has poured a sizable
>> amount of discussion, planning and energy into outreach to the movement
>> throughout the process. The goal was to encourage participation from as
>> many communities as possible.
>>
>>
>> The ways the UCoC team encouraged participation can be seen through the
>> results of this work. The Revised Enforcement Guidelines are currently
>> translated into over 40 languages; voter information, banners, and emails
>> were also heavily translated. The project team hosted outreach and
>> conversation hours throughout the drafting process. We have made it a point
>> to invite and engage with many communities, particularly small and
>> medium-sized, and it is our goal to continue to ensure that the growing
>> communities and small language wikis are invited to engage with us. It is
>> our hope that as we progress, the UCoC and the Enforcement Guidelines will
>> create a better environment that will see more interaction from all
>> communities.
>>
>> As we embark on the next steps and stages of this ongoing project, we
>> will increase engagement, conversations, and interaction with the growing
>> communities and small language wikis in as many languages, places, and
>> contexts as possible. The UCoC is an iterative process, and we will be
>> inviting opinions of how to make it more inclusive as we continue onwards.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Stella Ng
>>
>> On Behalf of the UCoC Project Team
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 11:39 AM F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l <
>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi/Bona vesprada,
>>>
>>> Without meaning at all that I do not respect the results of this voting,
>>> I would like to call the attention to the fact that out of 3097 votes,
>>> practically 2000 are circumscribed to only 4 big home wikis: en.wiki
>>> (1000), de.wiki (500), fr.wiki (200) and es.wiki (150).
>>>
>>> Imho it is somehow concerning that 2/3 of the votes of such a key policy
>>> are heavily relying on the weight of those major projects. I understand the
>>> constraints in participation, but it isn't either a trivial value
>>> -considering how much do we read about the WMF efforts to promote the
>>> so-called “Global South” communities and the minority language wikis.
>>>
>>> There is a great essay on English Wikipedia, "Wikipedia:Silence does
>>> not imply consent when drafting new policies
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Silence_does_not_imply_consent_when_drafting_new_policies>",
>>> that has a very thoughtful background and that I like very much to remind: *"Silence
>>> implies consensus" is an old standby on Wikipedia. However, with regard to
>>> new policies and guidelines, this cannot apply, and silence should instead
>>> imply either indifference or a lack of proper exposure. If a proposal
>>> produces indifference in the community, it is not necessary. If a proposal
>>> has not been adequately exposed to the community, there is no just cause
>>> for implementing it as policy.*
>>>
>>> Kind regards/Salutacions,
>>>
>>> Xavier Dengra
>>> ------- Original Message -------
>>> El dilluns, 13 de febrer 2023 a les 20:00, Shani Evenstein <
>>> shani@wikimedia.org> va escriure:
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> *Today the results of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement
>>> Guidelines vote were tallied*. We are pleased to report the results
>>> show that the Enforcement Guidelines are strongly supported by the
>>> community, with *76% of participants voting in support *of the
>>> Enforcement Guidelines.
>>>
>>>
>>> A report with a summary and analysis of comments submitted in the voting
>>> process is being prepared by the staff members supporting the Universal
>>> Code of Conduct work and will be available soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> Below is a message created by the staff members supporting the Universal
>>> Code of Conduct work, which has translations available on Meta-wiki
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines/Vote_results_announcement>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> The recent community-wide vote on the Universal Code of Conduct revised
>>> Enforcement Guidelines
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines>
>>> has been tallied and scrutinized. Thank you to everyone who participated.
>>>
>>> After 3097 voters from 146 Wikimedia communities voted, the results are
>>> 76% in support of the Enforcement Guidelines, and 24% in opposition.
>>> Statistics
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines/Voting_statistics>
>>> for the vote are available. A more detailed summary of comments submitted
>>> during the vote will be published soon.
>>>
>>> From here, the results and comments collected during this vote will be
>>> submitted to the Board of Trustees for their review. The current
>>> expectation is that the Board of Trustees review process will complete in
>>> March 2023. We will update you when their review process is completed.
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone who participated in
>>> this process.
>>>
>>> This list includes the people who voted in 2022 and those voters who
>>> provided comments so we could strengthen and clarify the Enforcement
>>> Guidelines into the version the community supports.
>>>
>>>
>>> I especially want to thank the Drafting Committee, who took the time to
>>> reconvene and review community feedback from the 2022 Enforcement Guideline
>>> vote and continue to engage with the community and feedback throughout
>>> 2022.
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally, thank you to the people who voted and shared feedback during
>>> this voting period. We look forward to reviewing the report of the feedback
>>> and discussing next steps with the rest of the Board.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shani, on behalf of the CAC.
>>>
>>> Shani Evenstein Sigalov
>>> <https://wikimediafoundation.org/profile/shani-evenstein-sigalov/>
>>>
>>> Vice Chair, Board of Trustees
>>>
>>> Chair, Community Affairs Committee
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines
>>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
>>> Public archives at
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/SCELV7FWZZQRGNV6KUQ7FXIVJVJSZ26R/
>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
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