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[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Wikimedia Enterprise API project
Followup:
As previously mentioned, the public conversation "office hours" for the
Wikimedia Enterprise API project's *2022 Financial report & product
update, *was held yesterday.

For those who were interested but unable to attend, a recording of this
1h40m meeting - including timecodes for all questions/topics discussed - is
now available on on Commons and embedded in the project's talkpage:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Enterprise#February_2023_Community_conversation_focusing_on_the_finance_report

Thank you to all who participated.

* Liam Wyatt [Wittylama]*

Senior Program Manager
for *Enterprise,* *Campaigns, & WikiCite*
Wikimedia Foundation


On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 14:21, Liam Wyatt <lwyatt@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello Sam, thank you for the kind words.
>
> And also thank you to Chris and Martin for yours.
>
>
> With regards to the “optimizations” mentioned in the product update: usage
> change over the course of 2022 wasn’t really the motivating factor here
> (given it’s only been one year so we’re fully expecting fluctuations), It’s
> more about trying to increase the system’s efficiency and limit areas where
> things could break at scale - in preparation for future demand. There has
> been some increase in costs over the 2022 calendar year, as shown in the
> finance report’s bar-graph and associated paragraph, but that was primarily
> due to staffing changes, not hosting costs.
>
> Our initial system architecture focused heavily on Wikipedia database
> dumps and now we’re focusing on expanding the “realtime” data feeds. We
> decided to rebuild the architecture to look more like an event-based
> system, to work alongside exported-data products, instead of adding on more
> services on top of the dump generation.
>
> As mentioned in the product update, for those interested in this topic
> there are quarterly summaries of the technical work on the project’s
> MediaWiki page:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise#Updates But, if you’d
> like to talk through the implementation details and the thinking behind it,
> then the best format is a real-time conversation. I encourage you to come
> to the “office hours” public meeting this Friday - etails at the top of the
> project page on Meta. Even if you can’t make it to that, we’ll make sure to
> discuss the product update and I’ll be uploading the recording afterwards
> to Commons, with a timecoded summary of the conversation.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Liam
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 23:29, Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Chris - My thoughts exactly. A satisfying report: useful, informative,
>> densely linked.
>>
>> TLDR: revenue at 2% of the WMF total; projected to be cashflow positive
>> this year.
>> 9 FTEs, up-to-date landing page
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise>, even headshot
>> photos for a majority of the team.
>> (And a subtle reminder that we should consider doing something awesome
>> with a community-led merch store!)
>>
>> Liam - for the product update, I'm curious how hosting costs + usage have
>> changed over the year (and implications for what we learn to optimize)
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:16 AM Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Liam! That looks admirably clear and very thorough - would be
>>> great to see this level of detail and transparency in other aspects of the
>>> WMF's work
>>>
>>> Chris/ The Land
>>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023, 14:35 Liam Wyatt, <lwyatt@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Following the initial announcement and project launch in 2021, and
>>>> press release about first customers in 2022, the Wikimedia Enterprise team
>>>> has today published the *first financial report* and a summary of a
>>>> forthcoming *product update*.
>>>>
>>>> This has been published today on the Diff blog, here:
>>>>
>>>> https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/02/07/wikimedia-enterprise-financial-report-product-update/
>>>> [also available in German
>>>> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/de/2023/02/07/wikimedia-enterprise-finanzbericht-und-produktupdates/>
>>>> ]
>>>>
>>>> One of the principles
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise/Principles> of
>>>> the Wikimedia Enterprise project has been “the publication of overall
>>>> revenue and expenses, differentiated from those of the Wikimedia Foundation
>>>> in general, at least annually”. We are therefore proud to present the
>>>> inaugural edition of the Wikimedia Enterprise financial report – covering
>>>> the calendar-year 2022, its first year of operations.
>>>>
>>>> The update also includes a description of some of the API features that
>>>> have been under development. While the primary use-case is companies which
>>>> consistently require very high-speed updates of very large amounts of
>>>> Wikimedia content, it is important to note that there are several
>>>> free-access methods.
>>>>
>>>> If you have written questions or comments about the update, please
>>>> share them on the project’s talkpage
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Enterprise> on Meta.
>>>> As described in the blogpost, we consider this report covering the 2022
>>>> calendar year to be a “beta” version. We are actively seeking feedback
>>>> about how its structure, content, and explanations can be improved for the
>>>> next edition in late 2023, which will cover the 2022-23 fiscal year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you prefer real-time conversation: A public meeting will be hosted
>>>> by the Enterprise team this Friday, February 10 @1900 UTC to discuss this
>>>> announcement - details on the project homepage
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise>.
>>>>
>>>> If you have any other questions please consult the FAQ
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Enterprise/FAQ>.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> * Liam Wyatt [Wittylama]*
>>>>
>>>> Senior Program Manager
>>>> for *Enterprise,* *Campaigns, & WikiCite*
>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>
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